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Rd4: 615pm Eels v Dragons GAME DAY THREAD @ Commbank Stadium 3/4/22

DaveMc

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Never watched it, just looks poor and glorifying meat head thugs and violence. Just don't care for it.

Funny you should bring it up though. I normally don't watch Aussie stuff, but just started to watch "Rake", an Aussie Comedy Drama. I'm up to season 3 now. Very good and very funny at times. Tongue in cheek stuff with a few tits and giggles. Well worth a view Hindy, if you are looking for an Aussie show.

Also has the best (perhaps only) Parramatta Eels joke in a mainstream TV show.

Barney (in a depressed mood): “Do you ever go to the football, look at the crowd and think "everyone here at some point is gonna die"?”

Cleaver: “You've gotta stop barracking for Parramatta mate.”
 

hindy111

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The point of being a development club is that your will lose some of them when the market boosts their price. The benefit you get is prior to that point. Remember even if we lose Drown we still have him next year, and if he maintains this form for the next two seasons we'll probably have him for unders the entire time. That's a benefit. What if we had to pay overs to keep him? There's no benefit at all. We could just pay overs for another player and get the same outcome.

Penrith says HI.
JFH, Cleary,Leota,Edwards,Staines, Too,Liam Martin, Luai, Yeo,Critchton, Spencer Leinu, Tago..... They managed to keep the cream mate. So what are they running? The point of a development club is you keep the best ones and in the most important positions.

Not let them go once they reaching peak. The list above blows away what juniors we try and keep.

Or is it more important to pay over for a fullback who is slow as a turtle?

That will do me
 

hindy111

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Like Burton? Like Gapewell? Like Bmith? Like Tino Fianxnejjxjalami?
I would like to keep Drown but my point was you’re calling for his resigning when his value is at its highest AND most visible. Everyone in the NRL saw him play well past 2 games. Everyone.
Stop playing yourself off as a visionary, fraud. Someone like me or Gronk would’ve recognised his talent months ago and given him a deal he couldn’t refuse

Capewell they picked up cheap and had great value from then let go. He wasn't a junior. Similar to Kikau.

Burton is a loss but they have the two current NSW halves. Huge difference. Along with Tago and Critchton in centres. If we had a gun 5/8 snapping at Dylan's heels along with a premiership already WON then fair call if we let him go.
Our alternative would be what?

Anyhows chances are we re sign him. Our club isn't that dopey is it?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Penrith says HI.
JFH, Cleary,Leota,Edwards,Staines, Too,Liam Martin, Luai, Yeo,Critchton, Spencer Leinu, Tago..... They managed to keep the cream mate. So what are they running? The point of a development club is you keep the best ones and in the most important positions.

Not let them go once they reaching peak. The list above blows away what juniors we try and keep.

Or is it more important to pay over for a fullback who is slow as a turtle?

That will do me
Penrith had to bring back the coach they sacked just so they could keep their star halfback without overpaying, and they still lost loads of players.

As for us, our junior catchment and loyalty base is shrinking. Demographics are f**king us. Many of the Parramatta district 'rugby league families' have moved to Penrith in recent decades. We now have less junior participation than Cronulla.
 

TheRam

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Oh right we won that game, which invalidates what I said ?

Go back and watch the Sharks game. I'll wait here.

The team as a whole played in slow motion and not to its strengths against the Sharks.

The point is Lane is a weapon out there and we still haven't worked out the best way to take advantage of his size and skill correctly and we only see glimpses of it. If Brown can improve his playmaking skills then he would bring Lane into another level of attack out there. Out lines are all wrong most of the time, especially when in the red zone. It is pathetic really and we rely on the bash and barge option way to much.

The red zone offensive part of our game is pitiful and the coaching has to wear that blame the most. If you can't see that I cant help you. If Moses didn't have a great kick in him, we would be a laughing stock as an offensive team.

To single out Lane as a problem and stifler of Dylan's attack is freakin hysterical and shows that we all see the same thing but come to very different conclusions.

I suppose you are one of these bonehead commentators that loves the energy level and contribution of Nathan Brown when he comes onto the ball on the 4th tackle too?

It is probably the dumbest and most wasted tackle that our coaching staff have persisted with for years now. When will they finally learn and realise that his settling 4th tackle hitup stifles all our momentum and only allows the defensive team time to reset the line unless he is lucky to get a super fast play the ball going.

When will the penny finally drop and they start to instruct him to go into the line with ball out in front of him with runners on either side of him in motion and then just as he is about to hit the line of defenders turn either right or left and pass to a moving at speed attacking line of outside players with space to move?

It isn't rocket science and he can pass and do it well, so why are we using him like a battering ram all the time, instead of like the Roosters use Radley for example? Or Matterson who also has ball playing skills could also do this at lock when Marata is back. If we focused on this small but huge variation on our 4th tackle option it would bring in all our attacking players and give them so much more room and space, especially in the Red zone, which we can't for the life of us, workout how to attack correctly. We just shift from side to side, with the barging settler or two and then kick hoping something works out. Very, very frustration and my throat gets hoarse screaming at the tele watching these idiots bumble around out there.

I keep saying it, what the hell are they practicing at training all week long? Very frustrating. It's the red zone for fu*k sake, get some depth, speed and bodies in motion for fu*k sake and strip them for numbers out wide. Then reload and do it again and again and again. Eventually they will fatigue and or falter. Why are we doing it so freakin wrong? Settlers are for the birds and teams like the Tigers. We are title contender and we need to learn how to attack the red zone correctly. Players like Dylan, Penisini and Blake would have a field day out there if we gave them that space.
 

hindy111

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The team as a whole played in slow motion and not to its strengths against the Sharks.

The point is Lane is a weapon out there and we still haven't worked out the best way to take advantage of his size and skill correctly and we only see glimpses of it. If Brown can improve his playmaking skills then he would bring Lane into another level of attack out there. Out lines are all wrong most of the time, especially when in the red zone. It is pathetic really and we rely on the bash and barge option way to much.

The red zone offensive part of our game is pitiful and the coaching has to wear that blame the most. If you can't see that I cant help you. If Moses didn't have a great kick in him, we would be a laughing stock as an offensive team.

To single out Lane as a problem and stifler of Dylan's attack is freakin hysterical and shows that we all see the same thing but come to very different conclusions.

I suppose you are one of these bonehead commentators that loves the energy level and contribution of Nathan Brown when he comes onto the ball on the 4th tackle too?

It is probably the dumbest and most wasted tackle that our coaching staff have persisted with for years now. When will they finally learn and realise that his settling 4th tackle hitup stifles all our momentum and only allows the defensive team time to reset the line unless he is lucky to get a super fast play the ball going.

When will the penny finally drop and they start to instruct him to go into the line with ball out in front of him with runners on either side of him in motion and then just as he is about to hit the line of defenders turn either right or left and pass to a moving at speed attacking line of outside players with space to move?

It isn't rocket science and he can pass and do it well, so why are we using him like a battering ram all the time, instead of like the Roosters use Radley for example? Or Matterson who also has ball playing skills could also do this at lock when Marata is back. If we focused on this small but huge variation on our 4th tackle option it would bring in all our attacking players and give them so much more room and space, especially in the Red zone, which we can't for the life of us, workout how to attack correctly. We just shift from side to side, with the barging settler or two and then kick hoping something works out. Very, very frustration and my throat gets hoarse screaming at the tele watching these idiots bumble around out there.

I keep saying it, what the hell are they practicing at training all week long? Very frustrating. It's the red zone for fu*k sake, get some depth, speed and bodies in motion for fu*k sake and strip them for numbers out wide. Then reload and do it again and again and again. Eventually they will fatigue and or falter. Why are we doing it so freakin wrong? Settlers are for the birds and teams like the Tigers. We are title contender and we need to learn how to attack the red zone correctly. Players like Dylan, Penisini and Blake would have a field day out there if we gave them that space.


A big is issue in the red zone Ram is we go wide when the opposition defense is set. Its pointless and just puts us put wide which means a wasted tackle following as we try and work the ball back to the middle.

The spread only should come when we have a fast play the ball. If you don't get one no point. Better to try a play up the middle with a forward passing a short ball. And stay in a good position for a repeat set.
To often we go wide when the defense is set and just pick us off. Should be more set plays and bodies in motion which we don't have.
 

hindy111

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Penrith had to bring back the coach they sacked just so they could keep their star halfback without overpaying, and they still lost loads of players.

As for us, our junior catchment and loyalty base is shrinking. Demographics are f**king us. Many of the Parramatta district 'rugby league families' have moved to Penrith in recent decades. We now have less junior participation than Cronulla.

Name the guys they lost? And who was above them.

Like I said Burton had the current 2 x NSW halves signed up.
They've also made the last two grand finals and have a squad that looks strong enough to get there again this year before they lose some big names. Big names that they had at their club during their PEAK

And also its fine to lose someone like Burton playing out of position cause you have a monster like Tago coming thru.
You are missing the point all together. We've achieved nothing. Zero. We lose guys without a replacement beneath them.

I can handle losing Stefano and Kafusi. We have 2 x better props. Mahoney was a blow and if lost D.Brown all this development we've done would make us look like a basket case.
A development club who goes out in week 2 every year and looses the best juniors. That's nothing to be proud of. We've achieved nothing

YOU JNOW NOTHING POU ESCOBAR
 

Gronk

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to single out Lane as a problem and stifler of Dylan's attack is freakin hysterical and shows that we all see the same thing but come to very different conclusions.

I suppose you are one of these bonehead commentators that loves the energy level and contribution of Nathan Brown when he comes onto the ball on the 4th tackle too?

LOL we are talking about the synchronicity between a 5/8 and an edge backrower and your glass jaw smashes into pieces again. Are you seriously incapable of sharing your thoughts without being so juvenile ?

By the way, you're wrong.
 

TheRam

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A big is issue in the red zone Ram is we go wide when the opposition defense is set. Its pointless and just puts us put wide which means a wasted tackle following as we try and work the ball back to the middle.

The spread only should come when we have a fast play the ball. If you don't get one no point. Better to try a play up the middle with a forward passing a short ball. And stay in a good position for a repeat set.
To often we go wide when the defense is set and just pick us off. Should be more set plays and bodies in motion which we don't have.

Yes we haven't stretched them out of shape at all is what you mean and having a middle forward lock who can run and bring in a bunch of defenders taking it right to the line before he turns and shoots the ball to a half in motion and a backline also in motion in an kind of inverted V shape all running at speed, will find opportunities as they pressure the defensive line. Watch Radley or your man Isaah Yeo. They probably do it the best.

We need to manufacture a stretched and out of shape defensive line. At the moment we rarely do as you have pointed out they are rarely not set and ready for us.
 

TheRam

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LOL we are talking about the synchronicity between a 5/8 and an edge backrower and your glass jaw smashes into pieces again. Are you seriously incapable of sharing your thoughts without being so juvenile ?

By the way, you're wrong.


Mate, this is the way I post. With a little colour and spice. I am not offended by anything you have to say to me or have a glass jaw as you like to say. I just love giving it to you like the little b*tch your are.

There more colour and spice.

BTW I'm right and you know you like it baby doll.
 

Gazzamatta

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Name the guys they lost? And who was above them.

Like I said Burton had the current 2 x NSW halves signed up.
They've also made the last two grand finals and have a squad that looks strong enough to get there again this year before they lose some big names. Big names that they had at their club during their PEAK

And also its fine to lose someone like Burton playing out of position cause you have a monster like Tago coming thru.
You are missing the point all together. We've achieved nothing. Zero. We lose guys without a replacement beneath them.

I can handle losing Stefano and Kafusi. We have 2 x better props. Mahoney was a blow and if lost D.Brown all this development we've done would make us look like a basket case.
A development club who goes out in week 2 every year and looses the best juniors. That's nothing to be proud of. We've achieved nothing

YOU JNOW NOTHING POU ESCOBAR
*Jon Snow.
 

hindy111

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LOL we are talking about the synchronicity between a 5/8 and an edge backrower and your glass jaw smashes into pieces again. Are you seriously incapable of sharing your thoughts without being so juvenile ?

By the way, you're wrong.

Bring out the bug words. How long you been waiting to squeeze synchronoctity into a sentence
Peanut
 
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