Ok for one they are directly competing with the broncos on their turf for everything. That means to not be a flop they are going to have to have the financial clout to compete with them for hearts and minds and sponsors. That will require a significant revenue which in reality will primarily come from fanbase. Is a 15k club in Brisbane going to survive let alone thrive? Doubtful.
This is just not true and shows how little you know about Brisbane.
If Brisbane 2 set up their base at Grange, like the Crushers did, then yeah, they would be right in the middle of Broncos territory. There's a reason the 3 BRL clubs closest to Red Hill went bust. Pastoral Brothers Leprechauns were at Grange. Fortitude Valley Diehards were at Albion. Western Suburbs Panthers were at Bardon. All of these suburbs are just a few minutes away from Red Hill.
The BRL clubs on the other side of town are stronger than ever. So nice try soapdodger, but once again you fail miserably. Easts Tigers are so strong they were asked to bail the ailing Broncos Leagues Club out a few years back. Dolphins, Seagulls and Tigers Leagues Clubs shit all over the Broncos Leagues.
then We’ve got the nutter telling us there should be 3 or 4 clubs in Brisbane. Well if we can’t even get a second one that can get a sizeable fanbase why the hell would you cannibalise what fans and sponsors there are into 3 or 4 pieces?
You don't know what the fanbase will be like, so STFU. What we do know is it will be bigger than anything a Perth-based team can muster.
Brisbane 2 does not need to draw attendances of 30,000 to survive. 15k will probably be enough for them to cover stadium costs and make a small profit. They will have a Leagues Club to offset losses.
The Broncos survived and thrived when just 19k attended their games after Super League.
Compare that with your idiotic Perth idea. Western Australia's government forbids electronic gambling machines in licenced venues, so no Leagues Club for the Pirates. RL in Perth is a distant 4th behind fumbleball, soccer and RU. Good luck getting sponsors when you're at the bottom of the pile. The RU team couldn't compete with the other Australian Super Rugby clubs, despite having billionaires supporting them and a larger base to draw support.
Recent crowds for the Force have ranged from 8,000 to 11,500.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/falling-attendance-could-spell-the-end-of-the-western-force/
If the Force cannot do it in a tiny sport like RU where the costs of running a team are far lower, how are the Pirates going to manage?
The Glory need to draw attendances of 13k+ just to break even because of the extra costs that the owners of Perth Oval charge. They get no where near it.
Can you be certain the Pirates will get 13k+ to their games?
The Western Reds couldn't even get 9k after their first season. The Force are now getting 8k, and have a larger base to draw upon than the Pirates.
You refuse to acknowledge these facts.
then You’ve got the desire to see games at Suncorp every weekend , last thing the game needs is another Anz with the stadium onLy 1/3 full for brisbane2 games.
Having Brisbane 2 play every game at Lang Park is as dumb as having the Panthers make the SFS their home ground. Brisbane is a big place and hard to navigate if you live on the outskirts.
Have you never even been to Brisbane for any length of time?
It can take anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes to drive from the outer southern suburbs of City of Brisbane to Milton. Even longer if you get the bus. Add more time on for games played on a Friday night as traffic is jammed up in the city. It has taken me up to 1 and a half hours to get from the northern suburbs of Logan to Lang Park on a Friday for a game that kicked off at 7pm.
The best thing the NRL can do is put a team in the north, one in the west and one in the south so that everyone in the greater Brisbane region has a chance of attending RL games. You're not going to get people from the outskirts to travel to Milton 12 times a year. The sooner you get that through your thick skull, the better.
So does Brisbane 2 have to get 20k plus crowds? Well probably if they want to survive, and definitely if what we are led to believe that the city is gagging for another club.
BS. All they need is enough to cover stadium hire costs. If Redcliffe plays at Dolphin Oval they won't have any hire costs as they own the f**ken ground. For all we know, 11.5k at Dolphin Oval might be more profitable than 20k at Lang Park.
Having 3 or 4 teams means more local derbies. The Cowboys vs Broncos games draws over 40k, despite there being a greater distance between Brisbane and Townsville than Brisbane and Sydney. Take the bigger intra-city derbies to Lang Park and you've got around 30,000 to 40,000 people attending. Possibly more. The smaller games can be played in smaller venues closer to the fanbase.
