Reddy for the NRL

[hineyrulz]

I wouldn't mind seeing Reddy get first crack at fullback, But blind freddie can see that Hayne will be our long term fullback.

 

[ParraDude_Jay]

When Reddy debuted in 2005 people were saying he would be our next great fullback, I don't know why so many people have turned off him even though in FG since his debut he's done nothing wrong.

Burt has been bad for many years, Reddy is solid at worst and I struggle to see how Burt is more valuable to the team, apart from his goalkicking but even with that he still lets in tries and I'd rather see us miss a few goals than have a small fullback who can't tackle and can't break the line.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Rubbish.
Defensively, Hayne is a much safer bet at fullback than Burt.
I draw your attention to the tackle on Wesser at Penrith stadium, and then, some other clown at Parra which he buried into the turf behind the tryline on another occassion.

Suity

I remember those tackles, however remember his goal line defense after his early initiation? he was really showed up, and it was also pointed various times by the commentators every game after that.

He cannot be fullback yet if he is struggling in this department, unless it was just inexperience who knows?

 

[Ron Jeremy]

When Reddy debuted in 2005 people were saying he would be our next great fullback, I don't know why so many people have turned off him even though in FG since his debut he's done nothing wrong.

Burt has been bad for many years, Reddy is solid at worst and I struggle to see how Burt is more valuable to the team, apart from his goalkicking but even with that he still lets in tries and I'd rather see us miss a few goals than have a small fullback who can't tackle and can't break the line.

I agree, however even though i'm not a huge Burt fan...his form in the latter part of last year was very good.

Goal Kicking is essential though. How many games has El Masri won through his boot?

 

[Suitman]

I remember those tackles, however remember his goal line defense after his early initiation? he was really showed up, and it was also pointed various times by the commentators every game after that.

He cannot be fullback yet if he is struggling in this department, unless it was just inexperience who knows?

Well you could be right, but I've also put a lot of his defensive errors down to lack of support or short numbering on the inside.
There was plenty of that last season.

From what I've seen, he has the balls to go in a bit harder than Burt, hence my preference for him at fullback.

Suity

 

[Ron Jeremy]

I wouldn't mind seeing Reddy get first crack at fullback, But blind freddie can see that Hayne will be our long term fullback.

No one said he wouldn't eventually, the problem is, is he ready for fullback just yet?

I don't think he is, that's why i would start him either in the centres which i cannot understand the reaction on this board as he'd make a fine centre.

He reminds me of Tahu, and we all know how well Tahu now goes in the centres since he was switched from the wing, Hayne would be know different.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Ron.... i agree with most things you say but on this one i won't. hayne is an excellent fullback. I have watched him since the harold mathews and he was freak back then in attack and especially in defence. He never played wing in the Juniors it was always Fullback. the only time he played wing was when he was elevated to PL and 1st grade.

His natural posy is Fullback.

Ohwell i cannot possibly always be right:lol: ;-)

I think he will develop into a great fullback, it's just a present i'd gradually ease him into the position....maybe wait to we play an easy side like Manly or the Roosters to unleash him lol

 

[lucablight]

IMO it is MUCH easier in defence at fullback than on the wing. SO keeping Hayne on the wing because of perceived defensive problems is ridiculous.

 

[Stagger eel]

There's no doubt that Joel is closer to a permanant spot than what he was last year however I still can't fit him in at the moment in my full strength line up but would definitely be the first outside back chosen to cover for injury or loss of form.

I still have a slight issue with his speed off the mark although he's got incredible upper body strength which makes him a real hand full to put down in full flight but centre could be a real option for him and he may make a fist of it but he is a specialist fullback.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

IMO it is MUCH easier in defence at fullback than on the wing. SO keeping Hayne on the wing because of perceived defensive problems is ridiculous.

Your kidding right?:lol:

If that was the case Matt Petersen would've been our fullback years ago:lol:

Just have to think about to junior league when my coach use to say "ok, who cant tackle? ok then you go on one wing and you on the other" lol

Fullback is an isolated position, wing isn't as you support inside you, how you find defending on the wing harder then fullback has me stumped:?

 

[strider]

coaches exploit dodgy wing defense massively in modern rugby league ..... your fullback will only be called on a couple of times a game and most the time he has no hope in a 1 on many situation anyway

 

[Ron Jeremy]

coaches exploit dodgy wing defense massively in modern rugby league ..... your fullback will only be called on a couple of times a game and most the time he has no hope in a 1 on many situation anyway

Couple of times? yeah sure if you're wining 60-0, but in a tight game a fullback would probably make as much tackles as a centre.

Paul Taylor once made 52 tackles from fullback.

Coaches exploit anything that posses a weakness, for an example forwards running at halfbacks etc

If your theory was correct, then why wan't Matt Petersen, Shane Wheart, Ian Herron etc ever moved to fullback because of there defensive problems?

Actually, can anybody tell me if there was actually ever a case of a player moving from the wing to fullback because defensively he was average?

 

[cardinal]

coaches exploit dodgy wing defense massively in modern rugby league ..... your fullback will only be called on a couple of times a game and most the time he has no hope in a 1 on many situation anyway

They are both equally important and as hard as each other positions to defend in. A good defensive winger must be able to read the play and have the confidence to come in and shut down a movement and also know when not to leave his opposite unmarked. To say a fullback only gets called on a few times and has know hope is crazy, when Wade was on his game he was making numerous try savers in a game as do many good defensive fullbacks. Burt's good points are his goalkicking, pace and ability to position himself in attack especially when chasing kicks, his ordinary points are he is often not willing to put his body on the line in defence and his soft kick returns, where at times he looks to surrender to the defence. But it is a new season and it we are prepared to give Tim and Ben Smith a chance after ordinary years than Burty deserves a shot, but he will know there will be heaps of pressure on him. I also think Hayne would make a great centre.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Also, what do coaches do with average tacklers or small players in todays game? they throw them on the wing

examples:

Tim Smith
Preston Campbell
Benji Marshall

lol

 

[strider]

but how many years ago did paul taylor play? (and man, how badly did our defense suck that game :-k :lol .... frontline defense is where its at these days

i agree this whole talk about win/fullback defense is a bit silly - they both need to be able to defend - but i think in different ways ..... i actually think hayne would be an outstanding fullback defender - he can pull off great cover defense and has deceptive speed

 

[strider]

btw - why the f are ppl picking on ben smith's defense? he's a very good defender! - every player will get caught out not sliding or coming in occasionally (if not, there'd never be tries out wide)

 

[The Engineers Room]

I just hope Burt plays like he was until he was injured and McKinnon took over a few years back. When you see him play premier league you can see he is better than that.

 

[Suitman]

Paul Taylor once made 52 tackles from fullback.

Wrong.

Paul Taylor was playing lock that day. I was there.

Suity

 

[Ron Jeremy]

But Paul Taylor did make many tackles from fullback when he played in that position

 

[Freak2]

I think he could get the gig at those clubs or at least go close. Simmons, Goodwin, Seage and Mathers are either untried at the NRL level or haven't dopne anymore than Reddy has in his limited appearances. He is as good a fullback as Patten and McKinnon albeit he has different strengths compared to those players.

This is your best ever Colonel

McKinnon / Patten :roll:

Both players have absolute panels on Reddy at this stage!!