RIP NRL

[Canard]

It's pretty simple, your club and some others are going to have to get professional. The Panthers have a massive junior network but the running of the club has been completely incompetent and has been for a long long time.

The Phil Gould/Ivan Cleary fiasco being yet another example, before we get into the behaviour off the field of some of your star players for many years. It is no wonder that each year some of the biggest names are walking out mid contract. The culture has been a disgrace with players more interested in rooting each others partners than getting down to the business of winning a premiership. Your issue is effectively that the likes of the Roosters and Storm should fall down to the level of mediocrity in the front office as the Panthers.

Going through the NRL and there are many others, the Titans, Jarryd Hayne anyone? The Knights, let's give Mitchell Pearce a million to steer the team around, let's just hope spending the offseason on one massive long bender doesn't affect him. Dragons, let's sign Ben Hunt to guide the team, the Bulldogs are recovering from Ralene Castle, Ray Dib and Des Hasler screwing their salary cap.

The Tigers with Ivan Cleary spending big money on Josh Reynolds, Ben Matulino, Russell Packer and letting Robbie Farah and Benji playing far too long, then having Cleary jump ship and the new coach not wanting a bar of Reynolds, Packer and Matulino.

The Sharks who have been more successful and with some seriously good young players coming, though wasting a pile of money on peahearts like Shaun Johnson and Matt Moylan, the Warriors lol.. Stephen f**king Kearney and a bunch of peaheart forwards, being almost a one man team with RTS, though Maumalo was awesome this year and I expect that to continue.

The one club that has stepped up massively and brought in the real professionalism that brings success is the Raiders and kudos to Ricky Stuart for building their model that should deliver sustained success and premierships. Though imagine what they could do if hometown boy Craig Bellamy came back to coach, they would be the new Storm. That said I can see the Raiders success continuing for some time.

A big cheque book trumps all.

 

[some11]

Can you translate that into salary cap cheat speak for the rest of us.

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

A big cheque book trumps all.

That's what all the unsuccessful clubs that spend a fortune signing mentally weak idiots like Mitchell Pearce, Shaun Johnson, Jarryd Hayne think as well. Lightweights like you will never know what it takes to be successful.

 

[Canard]

That's what all the unsuccessful clubs that spend a fortune signing mentally weak idiots like Mitchell Pearce, Shaun Johnson, Jarryd Hayne think as well. Lightweights like you will never know what it takes to be successful.

You forgot to include getting a free ride from the games officials also, that's a big help in any success.

 

[greenBV4]

The main reasons behind the NRL being dead in here seem to be GF ratings and a lopsided competition

So I put this data together for the past decade (2010s)

Metro's ratings and GF crowd showing the top 3 and bottom 3 for each region:


Tally of Premierships, Grand Finals, Minor Premierships and Spoons:


Spoons/Finals/MP/Premierships by the year:


Let me know if theres mistakes and take of the data what you will

 

[taste2taste]

What has the trend been for TV in general in that time frame with the rise of Netflix and other streaming services?

Yes TV ratings have dropped dramatically across the board in the past decade.
To use an Aussie ratings Juggernaut as an example, The Block season 1 2003 final had an audience of 3.1 mill , 2018 final had 1.6 mil.

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

You forgot to include getting a free ride from the games officials also, that's a big help in any success.

We got most of the dud decisions in the Grand Final, which even Paul Gallen said on MMM. Luke Keary tackled in the legs when kicking by Soliola, which has been an automatic penalty all season. This is the kick that ended up hitting the trainer after the charge down. In the first half Josh Hodgson would not let go of the ball after tackles were completed. Tapine smashing Radley in the jaw and not being penalised, subsequently charged and suspended for a week.

The penalty that occurred in the set of six before Cronk was sin binned was dropped cold and ruled by Sutton as a drop ball before cheat Ben Cummins blew the penalty. Cronk's sin binning was not a deliberate professional foul and his tackle was a fraction of a second early on Papalli. A penalty, yes not a sin bin.

The 6 again call was another attempt by cheat Ben Cummins to screw the Roosters, but correctly over ruled by the touch judge and Sutton. The Raiders knew it was the last, otherwise why would Whitehead quickly throw a flick pass on a zero tackle and then Wighton shook his head when tackled. He then got up and played the ball. Later Tedesco smashed in the jaw with a couple minutes to go, again no tackle.

 

[Canard]

We got most of the dud decisions in the Grand Final, which even Paul Gallen said on MMM. Luke Keary tackled in the legs when kicking by Soliola, which has been an automatic penalty all season. This is the kick that ended up hitting the trainer after the charge down. In the first half Josh Hodgson would not let go of the ball after tackles were completed. Tapine smashing Radley in the jaw and not being penalised, subsequently charged and suspended for a week.

The penalty that occurred in the set of six before Cronk was sin binned was dropped cold and ruled by Sutton as a drop ball before cheat Ben Cummins blew the penalty. Cronk's sin binning was not a deliberate professional foul and his tackle was a fraction of a second early on Papalli. A penalty, yes not a sin bin.

The 6 again call was another attempt by cheat Ben Cummins to screw the Roosters, but correctly over ruled by the touch judge and Sutton. The Raiders knew it was the last, otherwise why would Whitehead quickly throw a flick pass on a zero tackle and then Wighton shook his head when tackled. He then got up and played the ball. Later Tedesco smashed in the jaw with a couple minutes to go, again no tackle.

You could whine for Australia.

 

[taste2taste]

Me and Billy Moore disagree, its inconclusive.

You and Billy Moore are the only ones who think Tedesco might have touched it.
Billy Moore also said the reason the Raiders lost is because they didn't capitalize on all their possession and playing against 12 men.

 

[Springs09]

So the TV ratings only included metros? Stands to reason that a GF featuring the Raiders would have larger NSW regional figures? Raiders have never been popular in any capital have they?

 

[Springs09]

You and Billy Moore are the only ones who think Tedesco might have touched it.
Billy Moore also said the reason the Raiders lost is because they didn't capitalize on all their possession and playing against 12 men.

Right so the only reason the Raiders lost was one ref mistake and not the other 79.5 minutes of football yeah?

 

[taste2taste]

Right so the only reason the Raiders lost was one ref mistake and not the other 79.5 minutes of football yeah?

You've misread my post.
I'm agreeing the ref decision had little if any impact on the final result.

 

[Valheru]

edit- f**k it, i cant post the gif...
29 seconds in this video he f**ken waved his arm like a madman

He was just waving hello to someone in the stands.

 

[Brutus]

TV ratings for those twilight grand finals were good.

Bring them back. 7.40pm kick-off is too late.

At least make kick-off 7pm.

 

[Perth Red]

The main reasons behind the NRL being dead in here seem to be GF ratings and a lopsided competition

So I put this data together for the past decade (2010s)

Metro's ratings and GF crowd showing the top 3 and bottom 3 for each region:
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Tally of Premierships, Grand Finals, Minor Premierships and Spoons:
View attachment 33599

Spoons/Finals/MP/Premierships by the year:
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Let me know if theres mistakes and take of the data what you will

Shows how sht the games been travelling last three years despite the massive revenue increase. How longs Todd been in charge?

 

[taste2taste]

The penalty that occurred in the set of six before Cronk was sin binned was dropped cold and ruled by Sutton as a drop ball before cheat Ben Cummins blew the penalty. Cronk's sin binning was not a deliberate professional foul and his tackle was a fraction of a second early on Papalli. A penalty, yes not a sin bin.

IMO, and as Gallen said in the post game show, the 48 minute penalty had the most impact on the game, Sutton correctly ruled knock on which would have given the Roosters a scrum feed in attacking position, Cummins overruled him with penalty, replays showed it was a clear knock on not a strip. Off the back of the penalty Cronk is sin binned ( another contentious call, how is it a try scoring situation when Papalii had Cronk, Tedesco and Crichton on from of him ?) With 12 men and the Raiders running down hill the Roosters spent the rest of the half hanging on by their finger tips.
Had the correct decision of knock been held the game is completely different.

 

[Perth Red]

Right so the only reason the Raiders lost was one ref mistake and not the other 79.5 minutes of football yeah?

Not only but certainly a critical factor. 72min all level raiders on top with momentum and field position. You’d be a fool to say it didn’t play a key part in the outcome.

 

[typicalfan]

You've misread my post.
I'm agreeing the ref decision had little if any impact on the final result.

So the 6 again had no or little impact on the result but the penalty to Whitehead for a strip would have changed the game completely?

 

[Mr Spock!]

IMO, and as Gallen said in the post game show, the 48 minute penalty had the most impact on the game, Sutton correctly ruled knock on which would have given the Roosters a scrum feed in attacking position, Cummins overruled him with penalty, replays showed it was a clear knock on not a strip. Off the back of the penalty Cronk is sin binned ( another contentious call, how is it a try scoring situation when Papalii had Cronk, Tedesco and Crichton on from of him ?) With 12 men and the Raiders running down hill the Roosters spent the rest of the half hanging on by their finger tips.
Had the correct decision of knock been held the game is completely different.

BS....

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

Not only but certainly a critical factor. 72min all level raiders on top with momentum and field position. You’d be a fool to say it didn’t play a key part in the outcome.

The Raiders weren’t all on top. Shortly before Tauks burst through and we were attacking the Raiders line. If the Raiders thought it was 6 to go, why did Hodgson and Guler throw hot potato passes after collecting the ball?

Why is it a given that Wighton rolls a grubber in goal and gets a repeat set? His kicking game was midfield bombs. His previous grubber was a shocker that Nat Butcher cleaned up easily. He might have kicked it dead for a 7 tackle set, might have kicked it straight down a Roosters throat.

The Raiders with all that ball in the second half could not convert anything into points, even after the Roosters were dudded into playing with 12. We fought through the adversity, the Raiders didn’t.