RIP NRL

[Walt Flanigan]

This is what should have happened. When a mistake was made and it was deemed too disadvantageous to the Roosters to allow play to continue, play should have been immediately stopped, both captains called in and told the circumstances, and the Raiders told to play the ball on the 5th tackle.

I think it's probably as fair as you can get from that sort of situation. Problem is you could just see officials leaning on this option every time they're not sure who it came off.

 

[mave]

I think it's probably as fair as you can get from that sort of situation. Problem is you could just see officials leaning on this option every time they're not sure who it came off.

100%
Everyone cries about coaches bending new rules to any advantage.

Refs are even worse by using new rules to take the onus off them actually making, and now seemingly sticking, to a decision.

 

[no name]

No, I think the media need to hang onto it, forcing the game to confront its issues.

If they aren’t going to make changes after the media coverage from the first 24 hours, they never will.

 

[no name]

100%
Everyone cries about coaches bending new rules to any advantage.

Refs are even worse by using new rules to take the onus off them actually making, and now seemingly sticking, to a decision.

The VR was the beginning of a slippery slope.

 

[taste2taste]

When you have the media constantly bagging the game and telling everyone how sht it is we shouldnt be surprised. Only in RL would people who actually make a living from a game having fans, work so hard to turn those same fans off the game!

Agree 150%
When casual viewers tune in and all they hear is Gus and Joey bagging the refs and the administration why would they stick around ?
In other sports they are positive and talk the game up.
When Greenburg asked the press to be more positive and talk the game up the press did the opposite and tore shreds off him for even suggesting it.
Did anyone know before the GF medal presentation that Soliola did such incredible charity work ? No, because the press are too busy reporting a player in reverse grade that no one has ever heard off was lying in front of his neighbours steps after mad Monday drinks.
Surely ch9 and the telegraph realise its in their best interest to have as many people following the game as possible ? So why do they continue to give the game bad pres?

Sorry about the long rant but Gus's non stopping whinging drives me and many others to turn the game off.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

[QUOTE="TheFrog, post: 13862874
They'll be back when we get a GF without the Roosters or Storm in it. It's getting boring just like Dragons did in the 60s.[/QUOTE]



Then those fans are pussies. I endured the Parra/Bury, era and the only thing I moaned about was how my club couldn’t get its shit together and not the same teams winning - which begs the question, why are you still watching?

 

[Valheru]

If Ben says it I believe it.

 

[taste2taste]

If they aren’t going to make changes after the media coverage from the first 24 hours, they never will.

If they aren't going to make changes after the media coverage and slipping TV ratings, they never will.

Apparently VLandys is a gun administrator, let's hope he gets the game back on track.

 

[TheFrog]

The Parra/Dogs era of dominance covered less than a decade, started 1980, and was all over by '87, when Manly followed by the Raiders, Panthers (very briefly) and then Broncos, took over. The Broncos with their special advantages have always been a finals side but their time as GF/Top 4 regulars was over by 2001 or so, and the Roosters and Storm have dominated ever since. It is starting to look permanent, whereas the others were just a few years.

 

[southwalesrabbitoh]

If Ben says it I believe it.

I don't think he said it, he just signalled it, which is what refs are meant to do most, they're talking too much.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

The Parra/Dogs era of dominance covered less than a decade, started 1980, and was all over by '87, when Manly followed by the Raiders, Panthers (very briefly) and then Broncos, took over. The Broncos with their special advantages have always been a finals side but their time as GF/Top 4 regulars was over by 2001 or so, and the Roosters and Storm have dominated ever since. It is starting to look permanent, whereas the others were just a few years.

Don’t forget we were spooners ten years ago.

 

[Perth Red]

The Parra/Dogs era of dominance covered less than a decade, started 1980, and was all over by '87, when Manly followed by the Raiders, Panthers (very briefly) and then Broncos, took over. The Broncos with their special advantages have always been a finals side but their time as GF/Top 4 regulars was over by 2001 or so, and the Roosters and Storm have dominated ever since. It is starting to look permanent, whereas the others were just a few years.

Nothing lasts forever in sport. Change of coach, loss of a couple of stars and some bad recruiting decisions, players getting on the turps and smacking their Mrs, pokies drying up and sending a club bust, hiring a quack to fill your players full of illicit substances. There's a lot of variables that can impact sustained success.

 

[TheVelourFog]

IMO get rid of the bunker, get rid of the ear piece the ref wear's, the sideline officials should only intervene for foul play, and the assistant/pocket ref should never be shouting at the referee about a decision, the assistant ref should just be officiating the tackle area.

The referee is God, he/she is always right, that's the way it should be.

and everybody would just accept those decisions wouldnt they

video refs are here to stay, we should be making vetter use of them

 

[TheFrog]

and everybody would just accept those decisions wouldnt they

The more technology we introduce to any sport the more the scope for controversy. We just had an Ashes cricket Test decided by an incorrect call by the umpire, which was confirmed by technology. Rugby League is not alone in introducing a millstone around its own neck.

 

[Valheru]

The Parra/Dogs era of dominance covered less than a decade, started 1980, and was all over by '87, when Manly followed by the Raiders, Panthers (very briefly) and then Broncos, took over. The Broncos with their special advantages have always been a finals side but their time as GF/Top 4 regulars was over by 2001 or so, and the Roosters and Storm have dominated ever since. It is starting to look permanent, whereas the others were just a few years.

We made 2 finals series in 8 seasons from 2005 to 2012 including a spoon and 3 other bottom 4 finishes.

 

[typicalfan]

Incorrect calls happen in all games, that is sport and usually even themselves out. There aren't more errors due to technology they are just further highlighted through technology.

 

[some11]

Under-fire NRL Grand Final referee Ben Cummins told Canberra players: I never said six again
NRL FINALS

• October 8, 2019 7:27am
• by STAFF WRITERS
• Source: FOX SPORTS

Referee Ben Cummins has come under intense scruinty over his six again call in the NRL Grand Final.Source: Getty Images
Referee Ben Cummins claims he did not call six again when Canberra co-captain Josh Hodgson asked him to justify his sudden change of decision in the dying stages of the NRL grand final.

Replays show Cummins waving a fresh set of six in the Raiders’ favour after a high, spiralling kick, but the referee then reversed his decision midway through the tackle, shouting: “it’s last, still last”.

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Instead of kicking the ball on the last once it was regathered, Jack Wighton took the contact - expecting that his side would be gifted six more tackles to attack the Roosters’ line.

Then when he stood up to play the ball, Wighton was told by Cummins that it was a turnover.

Hodgson immediately confronted Cummins and asked him to explain why he had called six again and then changed his mind.

“I asked him about that. He said that he said five and last. He kept five and last in the air. That’s what he told me,” Hodgson told the Sydney Morning Herald.

“I said to him did you not call six again?

“And he said no, I called five and last.

“I thought he (called six again) at the time. That’s why I asked him if he called six again and he said no, I called five and last.”

Although the call was correct — after the ball bounced off Bailey Simonsson’s shoulder — it caused more confusion for the Canberra players that the decision was changed midway through the tackle.

Hodgson, however, says that the Raiders had 80 minutes to win the grand final and that Cummins’ decision had little bearing on the fact Canberra couldn’t pull of an unlikely victory.

“Little things have a big difference sometimes. But that isn’t the only reason we got beaten,” Hodgson said.

“It could have been a lot better but it’s not going to change anything now.”

“We dealt with a fair bit of pressure in that first half. I thought we defended really well to come in (trailing) at 8-6 with the amount of possession we had in the first half.

“But with the amount of possession we had in the second half — we couldn’t capitalise.

“You work so hard for something all year and you get so close. To lose it when it was so close, it’s hard to take.

“It’s small things that win or lose big games and we weren’t too far away.”

Hahahahahaha

 

[Game_Breaker]

The Parra/Dogs era of dominance covered less than a decade, started 1980, and was all over by '87, when Manly followed by the Raiders, Panthers (very briefly) and then Broncos, took over. The Broncos with their special advantages have always been a finals side but their time as GF/Top 4 regulars was over by 2001 or so, and the Roosters and Storm have dominated ever since. It is starting to look permanent, whereas the others were just a few years.

88

Plus we were back in the mid 90s

 

[kdalymc]

I never said six again

edit- f**k it, i cant post the gif...
29 seconds in this video he f**ken waved his arm like a madman

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

The Parra/Dogs era of dominance covered less than a decade, started 1980, and was all over by '87, when Manly followed by the Raiders, Panthers (very briefly) and then Broncos, took over. The Broncos with their special advantages have always been a finals side but their time as GF/Top 4 regulars was over by 2001 or so, and the Roosters and Storm have dominated ever since. It is starting to look permanent, whereas the others were just a few years.

It's pretty simple, your club and some others are going to have to get professional. The Panthers have a massive junior network but the running of the club has been completely incompetent and has been for a long long time.

The Phil Gould/Ivan Cleary fiasco being yet another example, before we get into the behaviour off the field of some of your star players for many years. It is no wonder that each year some of the biggest names are walking out mid contract. The culture has been a disgrace with players more interested in rooting each others partners than getting down to the business of winning a premiership. Your issue is effectively that the likes of the Roosters and Storm should fall down to the level of mediocrity in the front office as the Panthers.

Going through the NRL and there are many others, the Titans, Jarryd Hayne anyone? The Knights, let's give Mitchell Pearce a million to steer the team around, let's just hope spending the offseason on one massive long bender doesn't affect him. Dragons, let's sign Ben Hunt to guide the team, the Bulldogs are recovering from Ralene Castle, Ray Dib and Des Hasler screwing their salary cap.

The Tigers with Ivan Cleary spending big money on Josh Reynolds, Ben Matulino, Russell Packer and letting Robbie Farah and Benji playing far too long, then having Cleary jump ship and the new coach not wanting a bar of Reynolds, Packer and Matulino.

The Sharks who have been more successful and with some seriously good young players coming, though wasting a pile of money on peahearts like Shaun Johnson and Matt Moylan, the Warriors lol.. Stephen f**king Kearney and a bunch of peaheart forwards, being almost a one man team with RTS, though Maumalo was awesome this year and I expect that to continue.

The one club that has stepped up massively and brought in the real professionalism that brings success is the Raiders and kudos to Ricky Stuart for building their model that should deliver sustained success and premierships. Though imagine what they could do if hometown boy Craig Bellamy came back to coach, they would be the new Storm. That said I can see the Raiders success continuing for some time.