RIP NRL

[Mr Spock!]

You are talking about one incident. We didn't get the rub of the green in many others in that game none of which matter to you because the roosters didn't benefit

I'm talking about 2 incidents which should never happen in a country reserve grade game let alone the nrl GF.

 

[Lambretta]

I dont think we were the better side tbh. The roosters defense was very good. I think we were pretty evenly matched but the roosters were just able to capitalise when they got those half chances and we couldn't

I think we defended really well but we lack big game experience and skill in the spine.

I just think its ridiculous that anyone could play down cummins brain snap. So i just pop in here whenever some goof pretends it was a normal error or whatever. Which happens a lot

In 25 years time when an 80 year old stick gets us to our next gf im sure we will do better. Not that id know because ill be dead from raiders related stress disorder

I believe the change of the call was a factor, I just don't believe it was the only one

The way some people reacted you would think it was the be all and end all.

There was a turnover. The Raiders needed to defend that turnover. The fact they didn't is as big a factor

The Roosters needed to do something with the turnover. They did. That's as big a factor as the decision

Yet we talk nothing of the players involved. They become utterly immaterial to the hyperbole surrounding the effect the referees have.

Its utter nonsense

Please hold me to my words when a refereeing decision costs the Roosters

Please remind my fellow Roosters supporters of these words

 

[Stormwarrior82]

I believe the change of the call was a factor, I just don't believe it was the only one

The way some people reacted you would think it was the be all and end all.

There was a turnover. The Raiders needed to defend that turnover. The fact they didn't is as big a factor

The Roosters needed to do something with the turnover. They did. That's as big a factor as the decision

Yet we talk nothing of the players involved. They become utterly immaterial to the hyperbole surrounding the effect the referees have.

Its utter nonsense

Please hold me to my words when a refereeing decision costs the Roosters

Please remind my fellow Roosters supporters of these words

Agree with all above. Yes a difficult predicament. Do fans want the right call or a wrong call? Raiders where happy to accept the referees decision when vinuvalu arm was called out with a minute to go in the finals. Didn’t hear much after the game about Lailua blowing an absolute sitter either. He cost you more than that other decision. You win some you lose some but to carry on so much after the gf is a joke. Move on raiders...

 

[kdalymc]

f**k there is some morons in here. Who gives a f**k if it was right decision or not, the point is he waved 6 again so the raiders held the f**ken ball

Can I get this stickied or close the thread?

 

[Cockosh]

Canberra actually pass the ball twice after the 6 again call before wighton is tackled. Hodgson passes to Guler as Cummins is signalling 6 again. Cummins yells out last one, last one as Guler is running who then passes to wighton. Not excusing Cummins but why does Guler pass if he thinks it’s 6 again? It’s not as though it’s a simple pass. He had Manu, Morris and Cronk on him before slipping a desperate pass to wighton.

 

[T-Boon]

There had to have been a second signal.

 

[Cockosh]

As Guler takes possession at 70.57 Cummins yells and signals last one, last one. At 71.01 he passes the ball. There is no other signal.

 

[T-Boon]

Cummins new nickname should be The Grassy Knoll. There had to be a second signal.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

As Guler takes possession at 70.57 Cummins yells and signals last one, last one. At 71.01 he passes the ball. There is no other signal.

Which doesn't mean Wighton heard the call.

Let's move on. They f**ked it up (the refs)

 

[Walt Flanigan]

Canberra actually pass the ball twice after the 6 again call before wighton is tackled. Hodgson passes to Guler as Cummins is signalling 6 again. Cummins yells out last one, last one as Guler is running who then passes to wighton. Not excusing Cummins but why does Guler pass if he thinks it’s 6 again? It’s not as though it’s a simple pass. He had Manu, Morris and Cronk on him before slipping a desperate pass to wighton.

You've got Roosters fans pleading to have this thread closed off and then they keep kick-starting it all again.
It's pretty easy to tear the above post apart but I'm a bit done with it all TBH.

You win some you lose some but to carry on so much after the gf is a joke. Move on raiders..

Raiders fans haven't said anything about this for about a week. Pretty sure it's not us who need to move on.

 

[Fangs]

Can I get this stickied or close the thread?

No, have some respect for organisations who have passed on. We are all grieving.

RIP NRL.

 

[Walpole]

Canberra actually pass the ball twice after the 6 again call before wighton is tackled. Hodgson passes to Guler as Cummins is signalling 6 again. Cummins yells out last one, last one as Guler is running who then passes to wighton. Not excusing Cummins but why does Guler pass if he thinks it’s 6 again? It’s not as though it’s a simple pass. He had Manu, Morris and Cronk on him before slipping a desperate pass to wighton.

Refs make hand signals because there's a lot of crowd noise, especially in a big game. It lets everyone at the ground know what their decision is.
Guler is focused on the ball, doesn't see or hear what the ref is doing.
Still thinks it's the last because he can count to six.
Wighton is off the ball, sees the ref signal six again.
Takes the tackle because he knows what six again means.
Pretty simple.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Let's move on.

Congratulations to the roosters.

And Mr Ben Cummins on his new Ford mustang

 

[Cockosh]

I was simply responding to a post that said ref called 6 again so raiders held the ball. Clearly not the case. There were 2 passes.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Canberra only make the GF because they said Vunivalu put a hand on the touch line and they avoid the Roosters in the Prelim.

I'm sorry...but the 2019 Finals series was like a Choose Your Own Adventure novel, whereby any choice you make, you end up meeting the Roosters and lose.

 

[Cockosh]

Let's move on.

Congratulations to the roosters.

And Mr Ben Cummins on his new Ford mustang

Clearly you haven’t moved on

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Clearly you haven’t moved on

I have.

Clear as Roosters hall of famer Ben Cummins signals.

 

[Cockosh]

I have.

Clear as Roosters hall of famer Ben Cummins signals.

I’m hearing Braith Anasta himself will present Cummins‘ induction into our hall of fame.

 

[Cockosh]

Refs make hand signals because there's a lot of crowd noise, especially in a big game. It lets everyone at the ground know what their decision is.
Guler is focused on the ball, doesn't see or hear what the ref is doing.
Still thinks it's the last because he can count to six.
Wighton is off the ball, sees the ref signal six again.
Takes the tackle because he knows what six again means.
Pretty simple.

For the sake of accuracy let me correct you. Hodgson is the first to receive the ball when 6 again is signalled. Guler like Wighton is not in possession of the ball at that point. They would have seen 6 again call at same time. As guler receives the ball cummins signals last and yells last tackle, last tackle. I have no idea what he did or didnt hear or see but if he thought 6 again and still threw that low percentage, risky pass then he is an idiot for not taking the tackle. My guess is that he heard the last tackle call and realised he needed to keep the ball alive. This doesn’t change the fact that Cummins stuffed up on the biggest stage and tainted what was a great gf and is the reason speculation like this will be debated forever more.

 

[typicalfan]

Just because Hodgson and Guler had the ball doesn't mean they know what tackle it is, they assume the last, Wighton calls for the ball because he sees the signal. The player with the ball who is engaged with defenders has nearly no chance of seeing a six again call.

Anyway the point is moot, the issue isn't who won but the fact that this incident occurred, alarming that the reffing has gotten this bad.

You still hear people go on about 1989, hell I still hear people go on about Manly vs Parra in 1976. This will never go away, it's etched in history now.