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RL independence day arrives - NRL Independent Commission announced for November 1

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andrew057

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Interesting article on the SMH website about the IC.

The last paragraph also refers to the TV deal...unfortunately.
 

BunniesMan

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Patience patience

Its more important to be done right than done soon. Yes its dragging but the people put in now will control the trajectory of the game for the next 10 years.

And the structures put in place now will help determine its trajectory for the next 50.

Just take the time, get things right.
Well here's what your namesake has to say on the issue, he isn't as optimistic as you and outlines his reasons quite well:

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...rugby-league-gets-a-camel-20110628-1gp8r.html
 

Brutus

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ic-talks-over-last-member-20110628-1gp8o.html

News threat to torpedo IC talks over last member

Brad Walter

June 29, 2011
NEWS LTD has threatened to walk away from negotiations for the independent commission after a meeting yesterday over the identity of the eighth and final candidate for the new body ended in stalemate.
The stand-off between News Ltd, the QRL, ARL and NRL clubs ends hopes that the independent commission would be announced tomorrow, and the Herald was told that News chief operating officer Peter Macourt threatened during the heated meeting that the media organisation may not exit the game for a further five years.
At the centre of the dispute is Macourt and QRL director Terry Mackenroth's insistence that Mark Williamson be made one of the eight commissioners.
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ARL chairman John Chalk and South Sydney chairman Nicholas Pappas want former Wests Magpies and Wests Tigers chairman Jim Marsden to be on the commission as a representative of western Sydney.
It is understood that Chalk and Pappas offered to nominate another candidate as a compromise but Macourt and Mackenroth refused to budge and insist that two of the eight commissioners must come from Queensland.
Williamson is a former Ansett executive who oversaw the then News Ltd-owned airline's sponsorship of the Broncos and was later appointed to the North Queensland board. He was one of the nominations for the independent commission put forward by the QRL, along with IT guru and former Kangaroo John Grant.
Of the other six commissioners already agreed upon, four reside in Sydney - former Qantas chief financial officer Peter Gregg, ad man Ian Elliott, businesswoman Catherine Harris and rugby league great Wayne Pearce.
Former Sydney Olympics boss Gary Pemberton lives on the Gold Coast but is not considered a Queenslander by the QRL or News Ltd, while CSR executive director and lawyer Jeremy Sutcliffe is from Victoria.
A meeting of the Sydney-based NRL club chairmen on Monday instructed Pappas to stand by Marsden, whose standing in western Sydney is such that he was approached by the AFL to join an advisory committee for expansion club GWS Giants.
Marsden, who comes from one of the oldest and best-known families in Campbelltown, was nominated by Wests Tigers officials, who believe he would also provide the commission with an understanding of the licensed club industry.
When News Ltd and the QRL refused to budge on Williamson being the eighth candidate, Chalk is understood to have presented a compromise by nominating someone other than Marsden - but his offer was rejected.
The Herald was told that Chalk and Pappas walked out of the meeting but sources close to the negotiations say that did not happen.
However, the meeting ended with the parties no closer to a resolution and no date set for their next meeting after Macourt threatened that News Ltd would stay in the game for a further five years.
It was suggested to the Herald that News Ltd made the threat out of frustration after Pappas had previously been one of three members of the subcommittee to veto Marsden as a candidate.
News Ltd also alleged that Chalk had previously agreed to Williamson being on the commission and said they reluctantly agreed to Pemberton as a trade-off.
A dispute over News Ltd's refusal to guarantee it won't start another Super League-style breakaway competition also remains unresolved and is a serious stumbling block to the formation of the independent commission.





Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...last-member-20110628-1gp8o.html#ixzz1QbsIqkOx


Why should News LTd care if the last person for the IC is a Queenslander or not? Me thinks there are other reasons they want this Williamson bloke.

Well done to the ARL for sticking solid on a couple of issues because News LTD are showing their true colours in a big way by threatening to walk away.

Dogs.
 

bluesbreaker

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the clubs would be f**king stupid to sign on to any "independent commission" that allows News Ltd ANY further control over the game. SIT OUT THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT FFS
 

Gippsy

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How long to go under the original agreement got to go?

IMO, News Ltd staying in the game for another 5 years would be the worst possible result. They'd just about completely kill the game off in this time I reckon.
 

Noa

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Id be happy to see the Storm die to get these merkins out of the game. Clubs need to band together as one and not back down, start up another comp if they have to, enough is enough.
 

Noa

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How long to go under the original agreement got to go?

IMO, News Ltd staying in the game for another 5 years would be the worst possible result. They'd just about completely kill the game off in this time I reckon.

Maybe, maybe not. If the clubs told them right now we wont be re-signing, what re-course does have NEWS have. Zero imo.

No fans would be naive enough now to follow a comp started up by news, and only 2 clubs would be stupid enough to join, so Id call that bluff.
 

bluesbreaker

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Most of our clubs have run on the smell of an oily rag for the last decade. Another 5 years isn't too long to wait to get rid of News.

News are not going into this on good faith, they are doing it so they can continue to negotiate our tv deals with themselves.

Start a rebel comp, or wait it out. There is no other logical choice.
 

Rockin Ronny

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Maybe, maybe not. If the clubs told them right now we wont be re-signing, what re-course does have NEWS have. Zero imo.

No fans would be naive enough now to follow a comp started up by news, and only 2 clubs would be stupid enough to join, so Id call that bluff.

I agree.
Everyone needs to realise some hard facts.
1. News Limited have gained hundreds of millions in profit from Foxtel since using rugby league to further their own aims.
2. The TV deal - due to the conflict of interest - has held the game back terribly. Huge missed opportunities.
3. We should wait News out - get rid of them in a few years.
4. I don't believe the future of the game should be directed by the "vision" of Michael Searle.

The IC will not be independent. There is no evidence at all that the commissioners selecetd will have any clue about how to manage and grow the game effectively. An executive from "Ansett" is not exactly a ringing endorsement. Harris Farm sells fruit and veges - this is not visionary, genius stuff. How will this help rugby league?

It's all just hotchpotch bullshit - and I have no faith in this process or the people (like Searle) promoting it.
 

Lockyer4President!

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Love how the Sydney papers are trying to make this into a News Ltd vs ARL issue.

The QRL want Williamson on board as the 2nd QLD commissioner while the Sydney-based NSWRL wants Marsden as the fifth Sydney-based Commissioner…

Getting Marsden on board because the NSWRL want greater representation in Western Sydney when there are already half a dozen commissioners from Sydney just reeks of typical NSWRL one-eyed geniusedness.
 

Ray Mosters

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Hmmm.... what does Roy mean by "Corporate Memory" exactly? He uses it a couple of times, the meaning is not entirely clear from the context
 

AlwaysGreen

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Hmmm.... what does Roy mean by "Corporate Memory" exactly? He uses it a couple of times, the meaning is not entirely clear from the context
Its a common expression from people holed up in Melbourne suffering from dementia.

As for the mexican standoff over Marsden and Williamson surely the best way to solve the impasse is to go with someone else altogether. That is if both parties are fair dinkum about the IC.
 
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