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RL independence day arrives - NRL Independent Commission announced for November 1

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Dogs Of War

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Parra, you may not know this, but please, just do this if PBB ever makes a post. Its a moderator rule and is probably going to be writen into the guidlines soon enough.

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Its the universal sign that you arent reading his posts......you would be suprized how many people dont read his posts. (well, maybe not then)

It's much easier just to do this...

This message is hidden because $$Poor Boy Blues$$ is on your ignore list.

This way he just ends up talking to himself.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...r-books-for-the-commission-20100327-r3yy.html

Open up your books for the commission
March 28, 2010

Steve Mortimer says the overall health of the code must be checked, writes Daniel Lane.

ONE of the key agitator's for rugby league's independent commission is calling for an independent audit to document everything from the game's overall financial health - including each club's salary caps - to the number of registered players in the bush.

While Steve Mortimer, the great Canterbury, NSW and Australian halfback, was pleased it's been agreed to establish a commission, he says it's crucial an independent auditor is appointed to chart the future to allow a commissioner to make informed decisions.

''Rugby league needs a complete audit,'' Mortimer said. ''AFL did it, as did football [soccer]. Now, we need to get a PricewaterhouseCoopers [type of business] in to do something similar for us.

''It's vital we go through everything. We need to look at it from the grassroots to the sponsorship level. It has to be a detailed document.

''We need to know the percentage of players who make it from the bush, we need to know the number of Islanders playing the game, we need everything documented.

''This is as equally important as working out the television deal or the internet deal. Make no mistake, we need to look honestly and openly about the good things in rugby league; just as we do the bad. It all needs to be addressed.''

If the game's powerbroker's follow Mortimer's call they could use the review as an opportunity to scrutinise each of the club's finances - including their salary caps - the impact of the shortfall of money that's occurred because of the state government's poker machine tax as well as the amount of money sponsors are injecting into each club.

''An independent review of each NRL club should be compulsory as part of the process of a complete audited independent review of rugby league in Australasia from the grassroots communities level right up to the corporate sponsorship level,'' Mortimer told The Sun-Herald.

The document Mortimer has mooted would help the league plot the next 20 years of growth and development. It could also identify trends in the game, such as the importance of the bush and the best way to help players from rural areas fulfil their potential at the elite level.

''We can sit down and work out how many kids from the country make it when compared to their city counterparts,'' said Mortimer, who hails from Wagga Wagga.

''We can document what impact the player drain has on the bush and formulate a plan to help bridge that problem. Maybe we can send players past their best to the bush to help develop the game?''

Mortimer, who says he wants nothing from his ideas except to know the game will continue to thrive particularly in the bush, said it was vital the structure of the independent commission works from day one. He's suggested rugby league looks to the AFL who realised the need for an independent commission in 1983.

''Whilst it would be up to the elected [league] commissioners, I wouldn't be too proud to contact any of the commissioners that took a place on the inaugural board of the AFL 25 years ago, or to even make contact with former AFL commissioners that have been on the IC board since the first board, to assist the proficiency of 'our' IC to be and the administration,'' said Mortimer, who is also a former chief executive of the Bulldogs. ''Whether these former AFL commissioners want to assist is another thing.

''I also think it is important to have at least two females on the IC board of eight being touted as they represent 50 per cent of our population, and the mothers make lots of family decisions like what code their sons will play and buying sporting merchandise for family members.''
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/doubt-cast-on-games-new-dawn-20100417-slep.html

Doubt cast on game's new dawn
DANIEL LANE
April 18, 2010

ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA chief executive Peter Doust has sent a letter to NSW Rugby League raising his concerns about structural issues relating to rugby league's new dawn: the independent commission.

The target date given for the ARL and News Ltd to hand over their ownership of the game is November 1, and under the terms of agreement the two bodies will appoint the inaugural commissioners.

However, Doust told The Sun-Herald that the 16 clubs needed to have a much greater awareness of the processes being employed to shape the code's future.

"When Michael Searle [Gold Coast CEO and a driving force for the commission] got us together in January to consider our position, where we evolved as one to be in favour of the independent commission, there were certain things arising from that discussion, such as, how do you define independent? How do you get appointed as an independent commissioner? How do you get reappointed? What terms are involved?

"Those sorts of structural governance issues are important because we are going to have this governance in the game for a long time, so I think it's important we continue to be consulted on those principles as they're being established.''

Doust expressed his frustration at the lack of information concerning the new world order.

"Since the in-principle decision was published in March, I haven't heard much about any processes going on that would be crystallising some of these key issues," he said.

"What I'm interested in is the detail of the constitution of the independent commission and how people are appointed and reappointed and how the club's membership is determined within the policies and governance of the independent commission.

''They are the things that will be with us for another hundred years.''

NSWRL general manager Geoff Carr acknowledged that he had received the letter from Doust and said he had attempted to contact him to address his concerns.
 

m0nty

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Righto, back on the horse.

The Super 15 rights have kind of got lost with the other minor story running today. Nine seem to have paid a rather bargain basement price, so you'd think that it wouldn't affect the NRL dealings. Nevertheless, if Nine show Wallaby Tests in Melbourne then they would be rightly accused of a double standard wrt NRL.

Looks to me like Nine is mopping up the smaller rights and leaving the AFL to Seven/Ten. Plenty of water to go under the bridge now though. That makes it even more critical that the IC comes in and is bedded down as the rights negotiations heat up, to maximise the return.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/rugby/nines-450m-rugby-buyout/story-e6frey4i-1225856584052

SUPER 14 rugby will return to free-to-air TV on Channel 9 next year as part of a rich new broadcasting deal to be announced by the Australian Rugby Union this morning.

A new five-year agreement is understood to have landed Australia, South Africa and New Zealand a 30 per cent boost in value for the broadcast rights for Test and Super rugby, ensuring a $450 million windfall for the SANZAR partners.

This represents an increase of more than $100 million from their previous TV deal - $346 million paid for the 2006-2010 period.

The deal is believed to have left all parties content, and reflects the added value provided by the expanded content of the Super 15 competition in 2011.

The new tournament will see five teams from each country in three conferences, ensuring 10 local derbies at favourable timeslots and a guaranteed entrant into the finals each year from each nation.


But while FoxSports will continue to broadcast all Wallabies Tests and Super 14 games live, Nine have taken over from Channel 7 as rugby's free-to-air broadcaster and will not only show Australia's Test matches but also bring Super rugby content back to free-to-air.

For the first time in 10 years, Nine will broadcast a highlights package of games featuring the five Australian teams, including the new Melbourne Rebels franchise.

Super 15 free-to-air content proved to be a contentious issue in Australian TV broadcasting rights negotiations, with Channel 10/One interested in Test rights but only if they could also buy the rights to a weekly live Super match.

The Ten offer was rejected, with Foxsports keen to protect its rights as the exclusive broadcaster for Super rugby. News Limited, publisher of The Daily Telegraph, owns half of Foxsports and also held the broadcasting rights for rugby in Australia and New Zealand.

Nine, who are already the rights holders to the 2011 and 2015 Rugby World Cups, stepped in and reportedly paid $10 million to broadcast Wallabies Tri-Nations Tests, domestic Tests and a weekly package of Super 15 highlights.

The allure of Bledisloe Cups and the 2013 British and Irish Lions tour was a selling point, but not enough for Seven to recommit after several years of poor ratings.

Nine are uncertain whether they will pick up the Seven model and show the FoxSports feed with their own panel, or mount their own production.

Meanwhile, NSW Rugby have reported a $1.88 million loss for a 14-month period in 2008-09 but said it was no cause for concern.

NSW Rugby boss Jim L'Estrange said the change in year-end reporting periods from October to December to marry up with the ARU had seen them take an unavoidable hit.

During November and December last year NSW Rugby continued to have a range of fixed costs but had no revenue coming in.

"There were salaries, rental costs here at the stadium and a few other expenses. These were just costs of business without our regular revenue streams, which start in January," L'Estrange said.

For the 2009 October year-end, NSW reported an operating loss of $459,000. L'Estrange said this was down to a loss of sponsorship and membership revenue in the Global Financial Crisis, despite internal cost-cutting measures.

"It was a bit of a death by 1000 cuts - crowds were down slightly, hospitality was down a bit, sponsorship was down a bit," he said.

L'Estrange said he was expecting a financial turnaround, with the new Super 15 season next year bringing extra revenue.
 

taipan

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I think ch9 getting the union,is a sort of plan B.Should they lose the NRL or SOO rights,they will have some sort of a backstop.Albeit not an entertaining one.
 

hellteam

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After all this Melbourne Storm stuff, does anyone feel a bit hesitant about handing over the game back to the clubs, when the clubs themselves can be seen to be shifty?
 

Parra

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Part of the proposed deal is guaranteed funding for the Storm for a few years.

Can you see anyone agreeing to funnel money at them?

Even News Ltd are in damage control over the taint of owning the club.
 

El Diablo

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After all this Melbourne Storm stuff, does anyone feel a bit hesitant about handing over the game back to the clubs, when the clubs themselves can be seen to be shifty?

so what?

the IC the AFL have is run by clubs and they had a massive rort in 2002
 

Parra

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The only reason an NRL commission is being touted as it would provide a way for News Ltd to break their deal.

If they want out they should be shown the door, and have no say at all in the future of the game.

Look what happened at Melbourne - a team owned by News Ltd. They should be shown the door as quickly as Waldron was shown in at the Rebels.
 

Green Machine

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Righto, back on the horse.

The Super 15 rights have kind of got lost with the other minor story running today. Nine seem to have paid a rather bargain basement price, so you'd think that it wouldn't affect the NRL dealings. Nevertheless, if Nine show Wallaby Tests in Melbourne then they would be rightly accused of a double standard wrt NRL.
Nine’s purchase of Union rights is a strange one. You can be sure that the ARU and Foxsports would be pushing for Super 15’s to stay exclusive “Live” product to paytv with the anti-syphoning legislation. I think I read somewhere that Nine will only be showing a highlights package of Super 15. Channel 7 did replays of Super 12’s matches with little success. They ended with a Sunday morning replay which was also ditched.
The Tests are a little different. They won’t be on every week. Channel 9 is probably showing that they are not interested in competing for Saturday night NRL. Maybe the ARU will be pushing to move the Tests to mid-week to maximise the TV audience.

Looks to me like Nine is mopping up the smaller rights and leaving the AFL to Seven/Ten. Plenty of water to go under the bridge now though. That makes it even more critical that the IC comes in and is bedded down as the rights negotiations heat up, to maximise the return.


I think Channel 7 has made enough noise that they will be bidding for the Rugby League rights next time around,
 

Green Machine

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The only reason an NRL commission is being touted as it would provide a way for News Ltd to break their deal.
The commission was first pushed by the clubs.
If they want out they should be shown the door, and have no say at all in the future of the game.
The IC will be in by the end of the season
Look what happened at Melbourne - a team owned by News Ltd. They should be shown the door as quickly as Waldron was shown in at the Rebels.
That’s very funny. I heard Harold Mitchell asked yesterday about Brian Waldron’s role at the Rebels. It seems that someone from News Ltd (the Union rights holder) had a word old Harold overnight to change his support for Brian
 

Parra

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The commission was first pushed by the clubs.

The IC will be in by the end of the season



That's a big call re: IC in 2010

You have to question "the clubs" that are pushing for it. Seems the private equity owners want some cash back. And via Melbourne and the private ownership model we have a great example of what the pressure to get returns can produce in that environment. These are not the sort of people you want running an entire code.
 

Green Machine

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That's a big call re: IC in 2010
I think it will happen pretty quick now with this salary cap scandal
You have to question "the clubs" that are pushing for it. Seems the private equity owners want some cash back.
I think the private equity model is a lot more sustainable to the poker machine funded model. Hopefully it can be run on pure business lines and get rid of waste and duplication
And via Melbourne and the private ownership model we have a great example of what the pressure to get returns can produce in that environment.
Where was the pressure on Melbourne from News Ltd? Since 1998, News Ltd has never once buckled in their support of the Storm. I heard on the news tonight, they said is was only uncovered because a office assistant took Ian Schubert to the wrong filing cabinet
These are not the sort of people you want running an entire code.
The people that News Ltd nominates to the NRL Board are OK with me. It seems that Harold Mitchell was happy with Brian Waldron until News Ltd leaned on the ARU. The Reds, Waratahs and Brumbies might start questioning these current contracts at the Rebels,
 
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