Rnd 12 team list thread vs Bunnies

[Glenneel]

Where did I say we needed to keep Norman?? But he or Moses had to go to get Drown into the top 30. He should of already been in the top 30, but we offer blokes like Dill Smith 3 year deals instead.

We have 1 recognised half and an 18!yr kid as our best options going forward and people piss and moan when that is pointed out. But we have Taka, Smith and Hoffman lol. Jesus rap dancing Christ the lengths people go to to do some hugging.

Gee there are some precious souls on here. Hiney just mentioned a valid point and everyone has been jumping down his neck. Get a life and a grip people!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

BA took over the team that was placed 15

*14

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Pau pau, if French gets rag dolled over the sideline at Parramatta, he'd be rag dolled at the Roosters.

No and I just explained to you why. But let me dumb it down further since you've obviously never watched a game of rugby league.

Last year when he got the ball nothing was on and there was no space out wide, but he took the risk (which was his job) and tried to make it happen anyway. The result was inside pressure pushing defensive numbers onto him, and a mass of manflesh dragging him over the sideline. If he was in a better team he would only be receiving the ball when there was a genuine opportunity out wide and he would mostly be up against a single defender, usually one who was backpedalling. The inside defenders would all have been tied up from decoys and helping out on the previous tackle.

The fact is that the string bean french was playing too light & weak at parra, and that would have never happened in a better system.

Thems the facts Pou

No they're not mate. Read and learn.

 

[T.S Quint]

@Djay

'His' is a word meaning ownership of something.
e.g. The football is his.

You have been using this word incorrectly. The word you want is 'He's' which is a contraction of 'he is'.
e.g. He's f**king up our team and he's going to be fired!

You also are getting 'then' and 'than' mixed up.

I really only tell you this because your posts come across as pretty intelligent otherwise, and those mistakes stand out like dog's balls.

 

[Glenneel]

Which other coach has half a dozen rookies playing like seasoned first graders?

You're overestimating how often new genuine first graders arrive in the NRL.

Siebold, almost a full team, Robinson when rookies come in always seem to play to a high standard and Bellamy. One of our junior discards, Papyhuzen, is playing like a champion. We have a champion player in French on the outer with BA but he'll shine at another club. Is the common denominator BA?

 

[Djay]

TBH we don't know the terms of his 2 year deal. On the basis that Gould said in a podcast that clubs usually like to assess the coach's position a year out simply to avoid the media frenzy that exists with a coach on his final year. We would have done that if not for our wooden spoon IMO.

What we don't know are the terms of any termination package. BA's contract could very well have a termination clause whereby he is only entitled to say a $200k golden handshake.

To suggest that a coach becomes complacent after signing a contract, which then reflects on the team being complacent, is a bit of a stretch. IIRC only one player out of a dozen off contract has secured his future.

Well I put this to you. Decisions like starting the Melbourne game without a hooker, or Ferguson at centre or letting George Jennings retain his spot after costing us the match the week prior, are decisions he would of made knowing his future is in jeopardy.

I know I am only guessing and may be wrong but I am just simply stating things were good for 9 weeks, since then it’s been all downhill.


Anyways I hope there is some clause like that in his contract because as I stated above I don’t see us improving in 2 years. His taken this team as far as they can go, and he had shown recently that he is not up to it in regards to getting us where we all want to go.

 

[T.S Quint]

No and I just explained to you why. But let me dumb it down further since you've obviously never watched a game of rugby league.

Last year when he got the ball nothing was on and there was no space out wide, but he took the risk (which was his job) and tried to make it happen anyway. The result was inside pressure pushing defensive numbers onto him, and a mass of manflesh dragging him over the sideline. If he was in a better team he would only be receiving the ball when there was a genuine opportunity out wide and he would mostly be up against a single defender, usually one who was backpedalling. The inside defenders would all have been tied up from decoys and helping out on the previous tackle.

How many times was French dragged into touch in 2016 and 2017?

 

[T.S Quint]

Siebold, almost a full team, Robinson when rookies come in always seem to play to a high standard and Bellamy. One of our junior discards, Papyhuzen, is playing like a champion. We have a champion player in French on the outer with BA but he'll shine at another club. Is the common denominator BA?

Those teams are full of experienced Origin/International players and Premiership winners.
Their rookies are surrounded by champions. You need to stop comparing the Eels to those teams until we have reached their level of experience.

 

[Gronk]

Well I put this to you. Decisions like starting the Melbourne game without a hooker, or Ferguson at centre or letting George Jennings retain his spot after costing us the match the week prior, are decisions he would of made knowing his future is in jeopardy.

I know I am only guessing and may be wrong but I am just simply stating things were good for 9 weeks, since then it’s been all downhill.

Anyways I hope there is some clause like that in his contract because as I stated above I don’t see us improving in 2 years. His taken this team as far as they can go, and he had shown recently that he is not up to it in regards to getting us where we all want to go.

These decisions are applauded if we win and canned if we lose. I get it.

FYI On the Gus podcast this week they talked about Kevvie's plan is to start Gillette as dummy half and bench Hunt for the first 15m. What an idiot.

 

[Glenneel]

We are going to have 4 losses in a row aren't we.

I will be shocked, stunned, flabbergasted if we win. But we won't, not this week.

Hopefully Brown(s) are back soon. The shifting halves has to be hurting the team.

Based on Panthers game yesterday we, yet f**king again, played a team into form. The bumbling, fumbling Panthers changed to a team playing with speed, speed in D & A, and didn't they look good. Even when we are playing well we don't seem to do anything at speed.

I'm expecting us to be at our bumbling, fumbling best for another few weeks yet as no other f**king team ever seems to play us into form.

 

[T.S Quint]

Well I put this to you. Decisions like starting the Melbourne game without a hooker, or Ferguson at centre or letting George Jennings retain his spot after costing us the match the week prior, are decisions he would of made knowing his future is in jeopardy.

I know I am only guessing and may be wrong but I am just simply stating things were good for 9 weeks, since then it’s been all downhill.


Anyways I hope there is some clause like that in his contract because as I stated above I don’t see us improving in 2 years. His taken this team as far as they can go, and he had shown recently that he is not up to it in regards to getting us where we all want to go.

We had a hooker to start the Melbourne game. It was Gutherson. Was that the decision that made the team leak 64 points? Probably not.

Ferguson playing in the centres didn't make him drop the ball so many times. He just had a shit game, which could have easily happened if he was also on the wing. The decision to play him in the centres wasn't what lost us that game...Ferguson playing like a f**ktard did.

George Jennings was fine last season to the point that pretty much everyone on here was happy to retain his services. He had a poor game against the Cowboys. One poor game doesn't automatically mean he will have another one the week after. Unfortunately he did. Should he never get picked again now? We only have a limited amount of players to choose from.

You don't see us improving in two years? Why not? We improved from 2013 to 2014. We improved from 2015 to 2016 and then to 2017. We have so far improved from last year to this year. There's every chance we can improve over the next two years.

 

[T.S Quint]

Based on Panthers game yesterday we, yet f**king again, played a team into form. The bumbling, fumbling Panthers changed to a team playing with speed, speed in D & A, and didn't they look good. Even when we are playing well we don't seem to do anything at speed.

I'm expecting us to be at our bumbling, fumbling best for another few weeks yet as no other f**king team ever seems to play us into form.

Or maybe they were lucky enough to play against a team missing half their players.
Like we will be tonight.

 

[chiefy1]

No and I just explained to you why. But let me dumb it down further since you've obviously never watched a game of rugby league.

Last year when he got the ball nothing was on and there was no space out wide, but he took the risk (which was his job) and tried to make it happen anyway. The result was inside pressure pushing defensive numbers onto him, and a mass of manflesh dragging him over the sideline. If he was in a better team he would only be receiving the ball when there was a genuine opportunity out wide and he would mostly be up against a single defender, usually one who was backpedalling. The inside defenders would all have been tied up from decoys and helping out on the previous tackle.

No they're not mate. Read and learn.

That’s the biggest spin job by yourself to date pau pau.
I think we should rename you Pou Pou the Spin Doctor

 

[Glenneel]

Those teams are full of experienced Origin/International players and Premiership winners.
Their rookies are surrounded by champions. You need to stop comparing the Eels to those teams until we have reached their level of experience.

I know that but was just answering a question from Pou. But those 3 coaches I mentioned (Siebold less so as a rookie) and Bennett have a history of improving players when coached by them. BA seems to do the opposite.

 

[Glenneel]

Or maybe they were lucky enough to play against a team missing half their players.
Like we will be tonight.

Panthers had plenty of players missing as well, maybe not the caliber of DCE or Tom Turbo.

 

[T.S Quint]

I know that but was just answering a question from Pou. But those 3 coaches I mentioned (Siebold less so as a rookie) and Bennett have a history of improving players when coached by them. BA seems to do the opposite.

Those coaches you mentioned also have more resources available to them (read TPAs) which in turn allow them to buy better players.
Players seem to improve under their tutelage because they are going into a better team. Peni Terepo would look like a pretty damn handy player running off Cameron Smith passes I'm sure.
We just need to find our stars. We don't have any yet, but whether it is via junior development (hopefully D.Brown can be our star, maybe Mahoney and Schneider also) or buying one from elsewhere (which seems like the easy way but remember our lack of TPAs) we won't be a regular top 4 or even top 8 team unless we can find some.

 

[T.S Quint]

Panthers had plenty of players missing as well, maybe not the caliber of DCE or Tom Turbo.

And maybe they just had a good week.
Even last season when we were f**king awful we still managed to win some games. Any team can have a good day, and if the other team is having a bad day in that same game then even better.

Last week they were still f**king awful. We just happened to be worse. I wouldn't go so far as to say we "played them into form" but sometimes even a shitty win can give you enough confidence to pick up your game.

 

[Delboy]

Last nights game was almost a big a derp fest as last weeks game agst the Riff.

Saved somewhat by a tear away young forward in Liam Martin who looked almost unstoppable,that's how we need our young forwards to approach games. Oregan did in the game agst Tigers, but didn't get many minutes for some reason since that game.

Fill ins with journeyman, doesn't seem to work as enthusiasm generates more line speed, which is some thing we lack . As before it seems a duty to attend tonight more than any expectation of a win.

About time the newly formed gang of 5, also known as the retention and recruitment committee, pulled their collective fingers out and provided some good news to balance what we have endured in the past 3/4 weeks.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Based on Panthers game yesterday we, yet f**king again, played a team into form. The bumbling, fumbling Panthers changed to a team playing with speed, speed in D & A, and didn't they look good. Even when we are playing well we don't seem to do anything at speed.

I'm expecting us to be at our bumbling, fumbling best for another few weeks yet as no other f**king team ever seems to play us into form.

I'd say their new form is independent of us. They were bound to cut out the shit and start winning games. Though it helped that they were up against average Parra and Manly teams with players missing.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

That’s the biggest spin job by yourself to date pau pau.
I think we should rename you Pou Pou the Spin Doctor

That's it mate, when you're shown up just play the man.