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Rnd 18 Eels v Knights Game Day Thread.

T-Boon

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ffs BUILD PRESSURE forget the score forget the clock just finish the first set (which is an achievement in itself for us lately!) kick as far as you can downfield, try to keep them in their own half without giving away a penalty (which is another achievement) and go on from there

We have tried that. We are terrible in the red zone. Our tries last night come from Hayne attacking from within our own half regardless of where we are in the tackle count. I hate the term "completions". It is a Brad Arthur term.
 

hindy111

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Our style of play (much like Cronulla when Sticky was there) is conducive to close games and where last year we won them, this year we are losing them.

Cronulla f**ked Stuart off for a coach that could also score points and the rest is history (merky history).......

Do we f**k off BA? I’m still not sure he has control of the staff he is allowed to have to operate effectively but if they move him on i won’t be losing any sleep either.

Can’t wait for the pathetic review notes and outcomes to be announced......


BA has done well and taken us through a tough period. His times up. He may go to another club and kill it and best of luck. I dont want to use just 2018 for BA performances. Like said in 2014 he needed 1 win against knights or raiders to make 8. We didnt just lose we where blown off park.
In 2017 we won some tight games but back end of year struggled to beat tigers,dogs( field goals) souths and where belted at home by the knights when a top 4 spot was on the line. I dont think people realise how close some of those wins where. Something I barked about the start of year.

Greast performance against Storm in finals then belted against cowboys.
 

T-Boon

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Really ? You have already dismissed the internal review as being rigged, a Yes Minister Committee formed to placate the masses but already a pre-determined nothing review all designed to pull the wool over they eyes of the fans members and media ?

You think that straight shooter Max who has worked as an administrator in various corporate capacities, and the members of the new board who have management consulting, accounting backgrounds are all in cahoots :wink: and fully intend to do nothing but whitewash ?

I bet the recommendation from the review is as per my thread of earlier in the season. Brad Arthur needed to get the team to win.
 

Gary Gutful

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Really ? You have already dismissed the internal review as being rigged, a Yes Minister Committee formed to placate the masses but already a pre-determined nothing review all designed to pull the wool over they eyes of the fans members and media ?

You think that straight shooter Max who has worked as an administrator in various corporate capacities, and the members of the new board who have management consulting, accounting backgrounds are all in cahoots :wink: and fully intend to do nothing but whitewash ?
He is on safer ground if he starts with that assumption and hopes to be pleasantly surprised.
 

Happy MEel

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Really ? You have already dismissed the internal review as being rigged, a Yes Minister Committee formed to placate the masses but already a pre-determined nothing review all designed to pull the wool over they eyes of the fans members and media ?

You think that straight shooter Max who has worked as an administrator in various corporate capacities, and the members of the new board who have management consulting, accounting backgrounds are all in cahoots :wink: and fully intend to do nothing but whitewash ?
We’ll never know the exact details of each recommendation but I have doubts that if the report recommends a coaching change that those in charge have the balls (and/or intention) to follow through with it.
 

Kornstar

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Really ? You have already dismissed the internal review as being rigged, a Yes Minister Committee formed to placate the masses but already a pre-determined nothing review all designed to pull the wool over they eyes of the fans members and media ?

You think that straight shooter Max who has worked as an administrator in various corporate capacities, and the members of the new board who have management consulting, accounting backgrounds are all in cahoots :wink: and fully intend to do nothing but whitewash ?

Where did i say it was rigged?

My point is, like many previous times this club has had to have reviews that we are still shit and whatever stink is in the club has remained in some way.

The results speak for themselves!

Max hasn’t solved any issues yet, in fact making sure that we spend less has actually hindered us this year.
 

Gronk

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We’ll never know the exact details of each recommendation but I have doubts that if the report recommends a coaching change that those in charge have the balls (and/or intention) to follow through with it.

Actually merkins who have a career as corporate minders and liquidation winderuperers are very content in making give-a-shit decisions. Merkins like Max are baby faced assassins and carry a chainsaw in their briefcases.
 

Gronk

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Where did i say it was rigged?

My point is, like many previous times this club has had to have reviews that we are still shit and whatever stink is in the club has remained in some way.

The results speak for themselves!

Max hasn’t solved any issues yet, in fact making sure that we spend less has actually hindered us this year.

You said that you expected pathetic reviews and outcomes from the study. Accordingly you have concluded that the review is a nothing event with a predetermined outcome.

Not sure why you say that previous reviews determine the outcome of this one. How do you conclude that other than to have decided that the result is rigged ?
 

Gary Gutful

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Actually merkins who have a career as corporate minders and liquidation winderuperers are very content in making give-a-shit decisions. Merkins like Max are baby faced assassins and carry a chainsaw in their briefcases.
Would be better if he carried some f**king money in there.
 

Joshuatheeel

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We lost simply because we didn’t complete our sets/made to many errors.

We beat the knights on pretty much all the attacking stats!

It we complete a few more sets, we could have easily scored, we looked dangerous when we held the ball!!

It’s pretty much like the dragons game, stupid errors killed us.

Now the question is how do we stop those stupid errors? I say lack of confidence is contributing.
 

Joshuatheeel

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With King at hooker, there is no use with getting quick play the balls, his running game is poor. Pritchard needs to come back into the side, we made good metres last night, but king never took advantage of it, Pritchard is dangerous out of dummy half.
 

Kornstar

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You said that you expected pathetic reviews and outcomes from the study. Accordingly you have concluded that the review is a nothing event with a predetermined outcome.

Not sure why you say that previous reviews determine the outcome of this one. How do you conclude that other than to have decided that the result is rigged ?

I’ve worked in large industries for 20 years, I’ve seen them (reviews) all before.

I have little faith in consultants coming and and making the right recommendations because most consultants are good at talking absolute shit and on the times they actually make the correct recommendation the business won’t do it because they either don’t have the balls or the person who has to take the recommendation has self interest in not taking it up. That is just the world we live in these days.

So rigged is not the term i would use but i have little faith in anyone making the correct decision at the Eels as since 2009 we have only ultimately made poor decisions.......

As Gary also said, part of me has to be this negative because I’m the person who needs to expect the worst in order to get any happiness in life.......it is a sad existence and i have 2 choices which are deal with it or end it all.......the latter is more and more tempting every day.....
 

Gronk

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We lost simply because we didn’t complete our sets/made to many errors.

We beat the knights on pretty much all the attacking stats!

It we complete a few more sets, we could have easily scored, we looked dangerous when we held the ball!!

It’s pretty much like the dragons game, stupid errors killed us.

Now the question is how do we stop those stupid errors?

+1. No idea what it takes to make players error free. Up to the individual to be professional. Teach players to make good decisions when fatigued.

Thing is that it is the same successful squad as last year.
 

Kornstar

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With King at hooker, there is no use with getting quick play the balls, his running game is poor. Pritchard needs to come back into the side, we made good metres last night, but king never took advantage of it, Pritchard is dangerous out of dummy half.

I agree with this, King seems a great guy but he is just a solid, no frills player.

Out of the 2 i would prefer Kaysa any day.
 

Eelementary

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BA has done well and taken us through a tough period. His times up. He may go to another club and kill it and best of luck. I dont want to use just 2018 for BA performances. Like said in 2014 he needed 1 win against knights or raiders to make 8. We didnt just lose we where blown off park.
In 2017 we won some tight games but back end of year struggled to beat tigers,dogs( field goals) souths and where belted at home by the knights when a top 4 spot was on the line. I dont think people realise how close some of those wins where. Something I barked about the start of year.

Greast performance against Storm in finals then belted against cowboys.

Was it, though?

We only scored when they had a bloke sin-binned.

I mean, if we are going to scrutinise a 2-point win because it wasn't impressive or emphatic, then why not scrutinise a loss, where we only scored a try because a bloke was off the field?

I don't understand this logic; yes, we played well against the Storm, but the ultimate scoreline flattered us.
 

Gronk

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I’ve worked in large industries for 20 years, I’ve seen them (reviews) all before.

I have little faith in consultants coming and and making the right recommendations because most consultants are good at talking absolute shit and on the times they actually make the correct recommendation the business won’t do it because they either don’t have the balls or the person who has to take the recommendation has self interest in not taking it up. That is just the world we live in these days.

So rigged is not the term i would use but i have little faith in anyone making the correct decision at the Eels as since 2009 we have only ultimately made poor decisions.......

As Gary also said, part of me has to be this negative because I’m the person who needs to expect the worst in order to get any happiness in life.......it is a sad existence and i have 2 choices which are deal with it or end it all.......the latter is more and more tempting every day.....

Firstly mate, I hope you reach out for help with your own demons. You have friends here and we stand beside you at all times.

I think the club is in good hands and that Bernie Max and Co will make strong decisions for the betterment of our club.
 

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