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Matt Scott has been found not guilty at the #NRL Judiciary - cleared of a grade one dangerous contact charge.

Both tackles were accidents but Scott's looked the worst of the 2. What a f**king farce these morons are in the judiciary!

We stuffed up and didnt challenge it. FFS!!
 
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emjaycee

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We stuffed up and isn't challenge it. FFS!!

The NRL has the club a bit 'gun shy' about challenging the judiciary.
Not only the Paulo incident last year, but as far back as 2014 I believe we made a choice not to challenge most citings... not that I agree with them but there were reasons at the time.
 
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The NRL has the club a bit 'gun shy' about challenging the judiciary.
Not only the Paulo incident last year, but as far back as 2014 I believe we made a choice not to challenge most citings... not that I agree with them but there were reasons at the time.

Mate the tackle wasn't that bad it was an accident. I felt they could've got off that. It was not malicious at all. And now Klemmer gets found NOT GUILTY lol
 
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The NRL has the club a bit 'gun shy' about challenging the judiciary.
Not only the Paulo incident last year, but as far back as 2014 I believe we made a choice not to challenge most citings... not that I agree with them but there were reasons at the time.

I agree. I think that under the current system if you plead guilty you get a minor reduction in the immediate penalty but the next time you're charged you now have a prior record (which adds to the next penalty) and likely also have carry over points. Long term pain for short term gain.

Am I right in thinking this?

Edit. I think I'm wrong about the carry over points. I suppose you can get them either way.
 
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Kornstar

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It's our fault because we pleaded guilty. We could have fought it and presented our case but chose not to.

We stuffed up and didnt challenge it. FFS!!

Was there a bigger sentence if he didn't get off? There wasn't but he would have missed a week and had high carry over points.

It made no difference to Scott cause he would not miss a week regardless.

The judiciary is a joke though, how does Klemmer get off? Out of all the ref touching incidents his was the worst and looked intimidating imo.
 
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Noise

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And if he was found guilty people would have whinged that we did challenge it.

But you are blasting the judiciary in terms of Scott getting off and Mau being guilty. We chose to accept the charge. They chose to fight it.
 

Kornstar

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But you are blasting the judiciary in terms of Scott getting off and Mau being guilty. We chose to accept the charge. They chose to fight it.

So you agree with their decision on Klemmer?

Their inconsistency is ridiculous though. I guarantee you Mau would not have gotten off tonight.

The MRC are as big of a joke! How the f**k was Graham not charged????
 

Noise

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So you agree with their decision on Klemmer?

Their inconsistency is ridiculous though. I guarantee you Mau would not have gotten off tonight.

The MRC are as big of a joke! How the f**k was Graham not charged????

I replied to this quote of yours:

Matt Scott has been found not guilty at the #NRL Judiciary - cleared of a grade one dangerous contact charge.

Both tackles were accidents but Scott's looked the worst of the 2. What a f**king farce these morons are in the judiciary!

You complared Matt Scott getting off to Mau being found guilty. That was our fault for not fighting, not the judiciary's
And if you think the MRC is so prejudice against the Eels, explain why Corey Norman touched the ref in round one and didn't even get charged? Doesn't seem like they were picking on us then.

I hate the victim mentality of fans.
 
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I bleed blue & gold

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I replied to this quote of yours:



You complared Matt Scott getting off to Mau being found guilty. That was our fault, not the judiciary's
And if you think the MRC is so prejudice against the Eels, explain why Corey Norman touched the ref in round one and didn't even get charged?

I hate the victim mentality of fans.

They probably just completely missed Norman touching the ref :lol:
 

Kornstar

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I replied to this quote of yours:



You complared Matt Scott getting off to Mau being found guilty. That was our fault, not the jubiciary's

And if you think the MRC is so prejudice against the Eels, explain why Corey Norman touched the ref in round one and didn't even get charged?

I hate the victim mentality of fans.

When was the last time we successfully got a downgrade or a player off? The judiciary are a joke. Klemmer got off, they are disgrace!

It is very simple for me, Klemmer didn't just touch the ref, he was intimidating towards him. Then a bunch of f**kwits in the media have to find that Merrin lightly touches the ref and then it snowballs from there. Klemmer got it started and because people decided they wanted to defend his thug actions they have to go and find all footage to defend him.

Players touch refs all the time these days but Klemmers was the first one I have watched live that I thought was out of line.

To answer your question about the MRC and Norman is easy, have they charged anyone else in the last few years for all the times refs have been touched?
 

Kornstar

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Agreed. But if they were indeed looking to 'get' us they would have gone over it with a fine tooth comb and found it.

It's not about trying to get us but it certainly is about inconsistency across the board for all clubs and then the judiciary being just as farcical.
 

Noise

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When was the last time we successfully got a downgrade or a player off? The judiciary are a joke. Klemmer got off, they are disgrace!

It is very simple for me, Klemmer didn't just touch the ref, he was intimidating towards him. Then a bunch of f**kwits in the media have to find that Merrin lightly touches the ref and then it snowballs from there. Klemmer got it started and because people decided they wanted to defend his thug actions they have to go and find all footage to defend him.

Players touch refs all the time these days but Klemmers was the first one I have watched live that I thought was out of line.

To answer your question about the MRC and Norman is easy, have they charged anyone else in the last few years for all the times refs have been touched?

That issue concerns me.Not in terms of the judiciary out to get us but the lawyers and cases we present. Some clubs always do well at the judiciary and they use the same counsel often with good results. Who are we using? Who is presenting our cases? Why don't we use the same counsel as those clubs? MJC even hinted we don't even fight it much anymore because we are scared of losing. Now that is a defeatist attitude if I ever heard one! How are we going to win a case when we barely ever fight?
 

hineyrulz

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It's our fault because we pleaded guilty. We could have fought it and presented our case but chose not to.
Yep weak as piss, same as one of Mau last season which we didn't challenge when there was f**k all in it.
 

hineyrulz

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And absolutely laughable they Klemmer gets off.

Amazing the Dogs can just seem to do no wrong at the jokedicary.
 

Kornstar

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That issue concerns me.Not in terms of the judiciary out to get us but the lawyers and cases we present. Some clubs always do well at the judiciary and they use the same counsel often with good results. Who are we using? Who is presenting our cases? Why don't we use the same counsel as those clubs? MJC even hinted we don't even fight it much anymore because we are scared of losing. Now that is a defeatist attitude if I ever heard one! How are we going to win a case when we barely ever fight?

I had always wondered that myself about who we use because whoever it has been has been terrible!

Remember the Shayne Dunley spitting and somehow getting away with it? We should always use that guy because he performed a miracle!!
 

emjaycee

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That issue concerns me.Not in terms of the judiciary out to get us but the lawyers and cases we present. Some clubs always do well at the judiciary and they use the same counsel often with good results. Who are we using? Who is presenting our cases? Why don't we use the same counsel as those clubs? MJC even hinted we don't even fight it much anymore because we are scared of losing. Now that is a defeatist attitude if I ever heard one! How are we going to win a case when we barely ever fight?

That wasn't quite the reason I meant to imply... but close enough. ;-)
 

Chipmunk

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Matt Scott has been found not guilty at the #NRL Judiciary - cleared of a grade one dangerous contact charge.

Both tackles were accidents but Scott's looked the worst of the 2. What a f**king farce these morons are in the judiciary!

The clubs got no one but itself to blame if it didn't fight the charge.

Ma'u would have missed 1 game with an early guilty plea or 1 game if found guilty at the judiciary.

Simply dumb not to fight it really
 

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