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Rogue One DISCUSSION Thread INC. SPOILERS!!!!!!

bileduct

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For me this wasn't quite the at the level of The Empire Strikes Back but probably on par with A New Hope, putting it in the top three Star Wars films for me.

That said I was not a fan of CGI Tarkin and Leia. Leia especially looked goofy as f**k. Surely there was a better way of doing that scene by reusing archival footage or something.
 

LESStar58

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For me this wasn't quite the at the level of The Empire Strikes Back but probably on par with A New Hope, putting it in the top three Star Wars films for me.

That said I was not a fan of CGI Tarkin and Leia. Leia especially looked goofy as f**k. Surely there was a better way of doing that scene by reusing archival footage or something.

They should have just not shown her face. I was a Tarkin CGI fan. Can't really have a movie about the Death Star without him especially because he's being used in Rebels the way he is.
 

bileduct

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They should have just not shown her face. I was a Tarkin CGI fan. Can't really have a movie about the Death Star without him especially because he's being used in Rebels the way he is.
Both characters were necessary to the story, but Tarkin probably didn't need such so much screen time and Leia's face shouldn't have been filling half the screen during her little cameo spot. They both looked cartoonish to me and out of place, even in a movie with several other CGI characters.

There was a younger CGI version of Anthony Hopkin's character on Westworld that was pulled off better.
 

Haffa

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I was surprised they even showed her face. When they panned into that room I was certain they'd just roll with the back shot.

I didn't have an Issue with Tarkin, it was noticeable at first but I got used to it.
 
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For me this wasn't quite the at the level of The Empire Strikes Back but probably on par with A New Hope, putting it in the top three Star Wars films for me.

That said I was not a fan of CGI Tarkin and Leia. Leia especially looked goofy as f**k. Surely there was a better way of doing that scene by reusing archival footage or something.

Or Lego...

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GC_Gladiator

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Ben Mendelhson played the least comical villain in a star wars movie for quite some time - made the whole thing feel a lot more adult. Even TFA had snoke who shit me a bit.
 

LESStar58

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Ben Mendelhson played the least comical villain in a star wars movie for quite some time - made the whole thing feel a lot more adult. Even TFA had snoke who shit me a bit.

I was expecting him to be an out and out bad ass but he was just an overly ambitious officer. That scene where he ordered the engineers be shot was pretty brutal though. His scene with Vader took my breath away... excuse the pun.
 

sandshark

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That space battle and ending really brought the film around for me, the middle just dragged on but none the less I think 10 times better than that family disney movie - episode 7.

Need to watch again, saw it opening night here and it was in 3D and was a pain to focus my eyes on characters like Tarkin and Leia.. I had no idea that they were CGI until after the film so that might say a bit about my eye sight and 3D.

The Vader scenes were epic.
The first ACT of the film kinda felt like Guardians of the Galaxy for me with the amount of planet jumping.

Ugh I need more!
 

Storm13

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That Vader scene was epic. Much better than Episode 7.

I can understand the cgi Leia but why cgi Tarkin, we're getting a new Solo so should've at least recast the role.
 

LESStar58

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That space battle and ending really brought the film around for me, the middle just dragged on but none the less I think 10 times better than that family disney movie - episode 7.

Need to watch again, saw it opening night here and it was in 3D and was a pain to focus my eyes on characters like Tarkin and Leia.. I had no idea that they were CGI until after the film so that might say a bit about my eye sight and 3D.

The Vader scenes were epic.
The first ACT of the film kinda felt like Guardians of the Galaxy for me with the amount of planet jumping.

Ugh I need more!

I saw TFA in 3d the first time around and it ruined it for me. Never again. At least not for a star wars movie!
 

bileduct

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Anything converted from 2D to 3D in post-production is a waste of time.

Then again, I find 3D to be a waste of time in general. Avatar looked phenomenal at the time but it gave me a nasty headache, so f**k that shit.
 

Generalzod

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Fantastic Disney got this film right, I was not impressed with the force awakens it was just a reboot of a new hope...
 

saint.nick

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I don't get the point of 3D. It's not like it gives you a better perspective of anything. It's just an annoying piece of shit that exists so people can say 'yeah technology!'
 
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Interesting, looking back at the teaser trailer and 2 trailers, the scene of Jyn and Cassian running across the beach with the hard drive is no longer in the film so obviously was re-structured. Nor is the bit where the TIE Fighter bobs up as she runs out on the satellite dish tower ledge to the control panel. It also looks like the toned down the 'snot nosed loner punk' of Jyn from the original teaser to the next trailers / actual film.
 

Danish

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First 45 mins were an absolute bore fest. Started to get interesting after Erso was killed, and the final act was just f**king incredible.

If I were to criticise something I thought the transition of Jyn from jaded, give no f**ks about the rebellion chick into fully committed and giving powerful speeches to the council was a bit clunky. Some of the opening 30 mins they spent just vomiting exposition at the audience probably could have been used to give her a bit more of a journey to being a leader.

All is forgiven though because of that final battle. Just insane. Coming to the realisation that they are actually all going to die was pretty intense. The onions were strong in my theatre a number of times there!

One other thing that is not a slight on his movie, but just movies in general.... I really wish they would stop destroying them by showing them in 3D. The choice here in NY is either watch it on a shitty old screen, or watch it in 3D. I chose 3D, and will never again. At times about 80% of the screen was just out of focus blur. Surely in 2D it won't look so bad!
 

saint.nick

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First 45 mins were an absolute bore fest. Started to get interesting after Erso was killed, and the final act was just f**king incredible.

If I were to criticise something I thought the transition of Jyn from jaded, give no f**ks about the rebellion chick into fully committed and giving powerful speeches to the council was a bit clunky. Some of the opening 30 mins they spent just vomiting exposition at the audience probably could have been used to give her a bit more of a journey to being a leader.

All is forgiven though because of that final battle. Just insane. Coming to the realisation that they are actually all going to die was pretty intense. The onions were strong in my theatre a number of times there!

One other thing that is not a slight on his movie, but just movies in general.... I really wish they would stop destroying them by showing them in 3D. The choice here in NY is either watch it on a shitty old screen, or watch it in 3D. I chose 3D, and will never again. At times about 80% of the screen was just out of focus blur. Surely in 2D it won't look so bad!

f**king amazing how a rich state like NY cannot offer an experience like Vmax. I agree, 3D is so full of shit. Can someone please explain how it actually enhances the experience? No one cares about things popping out of the screen! It's annoying and pointless! It's just a stupid fad that will hopefully die off.
 

Walt Flanigan

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Really was a good movie. I like the added strength it gives to the OT as well, by providing a good reason why there was such a big flaw in the Empire's pride and joy.

Now I can enjoy one of my favourite parts of a Star Wars release.......reading all the neckbeards whinge and pick holes in everything.
 

Danish

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Really was a good movie. I like the added strength it gives to the OT as well, by providing a good reason why there was such a big flaw in the Empire's pride and joy.

Now I can enjoy one of my favourite parts of a Star Wars release.......reading all the neckbeards whinge and pick holes in everything.


The neck beards will refuse to like any new Star Wars film on some sort of deluded principle mixed in with not wanting to agree with mainstream opinion (despite being uber fans of the most mainstream sci fi series of all time)
 

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