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Round 10 | Knights 12-32 Cowboys @ Hunter | Sat 7.30pm

Round 10 result :: Knights vs Cowboys


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RABK

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Estatheo if not for his horrible luck might have played Origin one day. He was a gun junior.

Greg Smith is a default, he doesn't count as he was never a league player.
 
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If we beat The Cowboys i think our forwards will really feel they have turned the corner. Arguably the strongest pack in the NRL if u have a fit Payne and Scott.
 

K-Man

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the criticism of Zeb was warranted earlier in the year, but he's getting better and better. the errors and missed tackles he was making earlier in the year were truly unforced and deserved scorn. he has cleaned up his act massively over probably the past month. he's still getting manhandled a bit with the ball (although less than earlier in the year - he looks like he's getting more confident)... but he's also running a lot more lines and functioning very well with T and co over on the left. he's also digging in and doing quite a lot of work that others just seem disinterested in.

the forum groupthink is just very slow at adapting. Zeb is busy getting back to his best whilst everyone seems to just want to stew on his early season form (which were really his first games he got to string together since breaking his neck). many blokes with Zebs injury never come back, many are never the same, but Zeb is truly bucking the trend. he's only played 11 games of football since having an injury that would end many careers. it would even be reasonable to say he may not be back to 100% until next year.

with Willie gaining fitness, McKinnon continuing to develop and Tetevano due back soon (i assume)... not to mention Costigan... it's not like Bennett doesn't have options. the worst Zeb has seen thus far has been a 1-week drop to the bench in round 2. since then his improvement has been obvious and consistent aside from another game where he had a true case of the dropsies (and who in the team hasn't?). i seriously feel that our backrow is the least of our worries at the moment. i think Bennett would be more than happy with Zebs progress and i feel his team selections reflect that. Zeb would be rotating with McKinnon far more often at the very least if there was an issue.

so yeah, have at my man crush... but make sure you can back it up beyond "burrr... he's missing some tackles". a FAR more legitimate criticism would be his lack of ability to get over the advantage line, particularly coming out of our own end... but the truth is he's never been particularly strong in this area. it's not really what he brings to the team. where you want Zeb is when you're in the oppositions half. then the real Zeb comes out in full and his value is clearly obvious. we haven't really spent much time in that area of the field lately. ultimately i think the truth is he's just not up to 80 quality minutes yet. if he were playing the first 60 of every match then his error rate and missed tackles would be way, way, way down. he's probably capable of 80 quality minutes if we could just hold onto the ball for any reasonable amount of time.

Agree with every word.

In attack Zeb gets called as Costigan about 50% of the time by TV commentators, so I wonder if fans are just running with that none the wiser. It makes a difference because our effective left edge is hugely reliant on Zeb's subtle skills - he's the one that set up the Tahu break and McManus runaway try a few weeks back (but despite 5 replays Laurie Daley complimented the great work of Costigan).

At the moment I think we have to live with the odd missed tackle, because he's one of the very few players in the team that can do anything at all with footy hand right now. Hell he's more of a threat in the backline than Darius at this stage.
 

perverse

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Agree with every word.

In attack Zeb gets called as Costigan about 50% of the time by TV commentators, so I wonder if fans are just running with that none the wiser. It makes a difference because our effective left edge is hugely reliant on Zeb's subtle skills - he's the one that set up the Tahu break and McManus runaway try a few weeks back (but despite 5 replays Laurie Daley complimented the great work of Costigan).

At the moment I think we have to live with the odd missed tackle, because he's one of the very few players in the team that can do anything at all with footy hand right now. Hell he's more of a threat in the backline than Darius at this stage.
yes, he one of the few blokes in our team that can create opportunities, often from nowhere.

commentators are hopeless at distinguishing our islanders. it's embarrassing for them. Rabs confuses Wes and Aku ffs... and he does it with striking regularity.
 

Nuffy

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Estatheo if not for his horrible luck might have played Origin one day. He was a gun junior.

Greg Smith is a default, he doesn't count as he was never a league player.

I knew him back in the day, good bloke.
 

Serc

First Grade
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Rabs confuses Wes and Aku ffs... and he does it with striking regularity.

I do too lol...at least once a game! (pre-Wes taped up elbow)

But the confusing of Costigan and Taia? Well I guess its dear old Laurie Daley so nothing surprises :p

Anyway Taia is going just fine, I am watching him more closely than usual because he is in my fantasy team, and I'd expect players like him to shine more when we get more ball at the right end of the park.
 

Jono078

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I think Taia touches the ball too much, I don't know if that's because others don't put their hand up for a run or he just gets in the way.

But I dont find 18 runs for 100m impressive. Just above 5m per run.

As I said, if he were out of the team, it's nothing McKinnon couldn't do.
 

Serc

First Grade
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He's an attacking backrower, not a prop (in terms of metres per run)
80 minute backrowers should make a fair few runs or tackles (or both if your name is Hindmarsh, Fensom, Parker etc), but their quality is measured not only in metres gained, but the offloads, quick play the balls, line breaks etc that they create for themselves with footwork or a good fend or line breaks that they create for others (eg: This is more Taia's speciality)
 

Jobdog

Live Update Team
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Chris Adams to make his debut off the bench tomorrow night. Interesting to see who drops off.

Chris Adams will make his NRL debut this Saturday night when the Knights’ take on the North Queensland Cowboys at Hunter Stadium.
Adams, a popular member of the team, will start on the interchange bench.
The 25-year-old hooker first joined the Knights back in 2010 after being pursued by assistant coach Rick Stone. He has been playing for the Knights’ NSW Cup team while spending some time training full-time with the NRL squad.
It has been a long and difficult path to first grade for the Nambour Queensland local, who prior to the 2012 season had a bad run with injuries, including a broken arm and wrist.
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perverse

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Zebs figures will look like that whenever we're back on our own line most of the game. He's not strong enough to cart the ball up with little room to find a gap, not in the NRL as it stands today. so many monsters running around. If we were spending an equal share of time in the oppositions half his metres run would look better, but he's just not that kind of forward. It obviously doesn't sit well with Bennett, and i suppose that's fair enough.

good news about Adams, though. always like to see new faces in first grade. watching kids debut is one of the better things about following sport. you never know when the next gem is going to pop up.
 

Big Tim

First Grade
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We have a fulltime dummy half in the 17!!

Keen to see how he goes. bennett has done alright with dummy halves over the years, so hopefully this turns out.
 

Yosh

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Excited to see Davis in the team. Hope he does real well and keeps his spot. Bedsy getting injured really exposed our squad.
 

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