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blacksafake

First Grade
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It is an absolute waste of time thinking he will ever drop Aitken to CC, infact I expect he will promote him to the starting side & if Latimore is still on the bench I will charter a plane towing a sign McGregor is a f.wit
Agree.
L plate must not remember Robinson dropping Mitchell for a few weeks to sharpen him up. Bellamy banished Scott & look how he repaid him the other night. Roberts is the latest.Sometimes it’s what they need.
Could you ever see any of the above being dropped by him.
 

Dragon David

First Grade
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9,341
Yes it is now a lost cause. In fact success in 2019 is a lost cause. I've lost a lot of enthusiasm since Mary was extended and so my only hope now is that he will be sacked with a big payout to avoid SGI being the laughing stock of the competition. Instead of us on paper being a chance of coming in the top 4 before seasons start, I have re-evaluated my prediction now and sadly have to say I predict we will end up in the bottom 4.

All power to our new CEO who recommended Mary be extended and to the SGI Board who having been given a chance to change the direction of our Club, sat on their hands and felt honouring old boys agreements was the way to go on this occasion.


Hi all you Dragons fanatics. I have recently signed up on the forum and I really appreciate reading the posts for the many threads covered by all the very astute members.

I have followed the Dragons for some 58 years from the age of about 14. Initially as a kid, I did not take the game too seriously and a win was just a win and a loss was just a loss - no big deal.
Nowadays as an extremely die hard tragic of the Dragons, a win is bloody fantastic and a loss is unbelievably dire. I do not want to dwell on the past as that period like in all sports, has good and bad moments, although of course for all of us, the good moments are the ones that are treasured.

I am writing to convey my thoughts of the future direction our club is heading towards and I believe it is how Possm depicts it in this post.

Unfortunately, this year has started off badly with JDB being the initial main cause of great concern affecting the structures that would have been instrumental in us winning more games if he played - his absence from playing is a huge loss. The other reasons are the injuries that we have accumulated to several of our high profile players. Moreover, while Paul McGregor remains coach we will not be premiership winners and while he says he now has the squad he wants, they are not effective enough to get us to the top 4 as the players have lost a lot of confidence and composure. We unfortunately have come up with some bad luck this year and as such I'm predicting that we will end up in the bottom four as Possm has predicted.

Sorry guys for my drivel and prediction. We do not have the cattle on and off the field from players to coaches to CEO and Board.

Cheers
Dragon David
 

redandwhite4evr

Juniors
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Hi all you Dragons fanatics. I have recently signed up on the forum and I really appreciate reading the posts for the many threads covered by all the very astute members.

I have followed the Dragons for some 58 years from the age of about 14. Initially as a kid, I did not take the game too seriously and a win was just a win and a loss was just a loss - no big deal.
Nowadays as an extremely die hard tragic of the Dragons, a win is bloody fantastic and a loss is unbelievably dire. I do not want to dwell on the past as that period like in all sports, has good and bad moments, although of course for all of us, the good moments are the ones that are treasured.

I am writing to convey my thoughts of the future direction our club is heading towards and I believe it is how Possm depicts it in this post.

Unfortunately, this year has started off badly with JDB being the initial main cause of great concern affecting the structures that would have been instrumental in us winning more games if he played - his absence from playing is a huge loss. The other reasons are the injuries that we have accumulated to several of our high profile players. Moreover, while Paul McGregor remains coach we will not be premiership winners and while he says he now has the squad he wants, they are not effective enough to get us to the top 4 as the players have lost a lot of confidence and composure. We unfortunately have come up with some bad luck this year and as such I'm predicting that we will end up in the bottom four as Possm has predicted.

Sorry guys for my drivel and prediction. We do not have the cattle on and off the field from players to coaches to CEO and Board.

Cheers
Dragon David

Welcome aboard Dragon David- as you no doubt have discerned, a lot of us are cynical and negative about the Dragons Board who, as one astute observer remarked, run the club like a trade union- ie jobs for the boys and Mary seems to be Head Prefect of the boys.

It's interesting to contrast the response of Bellamy to two VERY narrow losses (one point to the roosters and two points to the Sharks) as opposed to Mary's three consecutive losses and five losses overall. Bellamy publicly shamed his players and threatened that if there was no improvement in the current bunch, he would find players to replace them. The result, a 64 10 humiliation of the Eels.

By contrast, when St George lose, there is a deafening silence followed by a regurgitation of essentially the same names the following Tuesday. . Latimore, Host and Leilua consistently provide almost zero impact off the bench but they continue to get picked. Aitken came off the bench to replace Lomax at right centre and there was a noticeable redirection of Warriors attacking traffic to the SGI right and the bad reads started all over again. For one of those tries, Aitken left his man to tackle a player whom Hunt already had on the ground and a try ensued.

One of the Fox commentators observed early in the second half of the Warriors game that SGI had only used 14 players. Leilua was the only I/C to be used in the first half. Latimore wasn't sighted till half way thru the second half. Doesn't this say something about Mary's faith in his forwards? Of course, us mere mortals would understand that if only 14 players have been used, there is going to be fatigue- and sure enough we didn't score a point and conceded 20 in the second half- again.

The lunatics are running the asylum.
 

Dragon David

First Grade
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Welcome aboard Dragon David- as you no doubt have discerned, a lot of us are cynical and negative about the Dragons Board who, as one astute observer remarked, run the club like a trade union- ie jobs for the boys and Mary seems to be Head Prefect of the boys.

It's interesting to contrast the response of Bellamy to two VERY narrow losses (one point to the roosters and two points to the Sharks) as opposed to Mary's three consecutive losses and five losses overall. Bellamy publicly shamed his players and threatened that if there was no improvement in the current bunch, he would find players to replace them. The result, a 64 10 humiliation of the Eels.

By contrast, when St George lose, there is a deafening silence followed by a regurgitation of essentially the same names the following Tuesday. . Latimore, Host and Leilua consistently provide almost zero impact off the bench but they continue to get picked. Aitken came off the bench to replace Lomax at right centre and there was a noticeable redirection of Warriors attacking traffic to the SGI right and the bad reads started all over again. For one of those tries, Aitken left his man to tackle a player whom Hunt already had on the ground and a try ensued.

One of the Fox commentators observed early in the second half of the Warriors game that SGI had only used 14 players. Leilua was the only I/C to be used in the first half. Latimore wasn't sighted till half way thru the second half. Doesn't this say something about Mary's faith in his forwards? Of course, us mere mortals would understand that if only 14 players have been used, there is going to be fatigue- and sure enough we didn't score a point and conceded 20 in the second half- again.

The lunatics are running the asylum.


Thanks heaps redandwhite4ever.

I agree with everything you say. What concerns me, in the past few games and even in the earlier lost rounds, is the drop in intensity and the lack of geeing up by the players to each other to get things rolling along in a toughened/hardened approach to the game - quicker line speed, making all tackles count, changing their attitude and more individual game breaking tactics using their brains and footy smarts - unfortunately thats what a lot of our players lack.

Our captain needs to be strong and very convincing in his instructions to his team mates and when things don't go your way for several moves in either attack or defence, you've got to change tactics - McGregor needs to have these at the ready during the game and not to bring in to the next game against a different team. It has to be instantaneous. Even when players are fatigued, you have got to have a plan to do something different to create chances in attack and keep defence tight - bench players need to do all these and more as this can change the complexion of the way things pan out. I know we have been very critical of McGregor and his assistants and they need to learn a lot from their mistakes. The fitter players in the team need to take more control of the game when others are tiring it makes logical sense.

There have been many other issues that are frustrating - bad ref calls, more injuries etc., that can have an effect on the results but when the chips are down you just don't give up and you need to lift and fight like crazy.

Anyway, I've had my say. Reverting to this thread, the Dragons can win against the Knights, provided they show the toughness and willingness to win - they must use their brains - always thinking and saying we can win this and constantly remain positive - McGregor can give his match plan but the players are the ones to execute and excel in it. A will to win and a never say die attitude is needed for each game.

Cheers all

Dragon David
 

merahputih

Juniors
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922
Hi all you Dragons fanatics. I have recently signed up on the forum and I really appreciate reading the posts for the many threads covered by all the very astute members.

I have followed the Dragons for some 58 years from the age of about 14. Initially as a kid, I did not take the game too seriously and a win was just a win and a loss was just a loss - no big deal.
Nowadays as an extremely die hard tragic of the Dragons, a win is bloody fantastic and a loss is unbelievably dire. I do not want to dwell on the past as that period like in all sports, has good and bad moments, although of course for all of us, the good moments are the ones that are treasured.

I am writing to convey my thoughts of the future direction our club is heading towards and I believe it is how Possm depicts it in this post.

Unfortunately, this year has started off badly with JDB being the initial main cause of great concern affecting the structures that would have been instrumental in us winning more games if he played - his absence from playing is a huge loss. The other reasons are the injuries that we have accumulated to several of our high profile players. Moreover, while Paul McGregor remains coach we will not be premiership winners and while he says he now has the squad he wants, they are not effective enough to get us to the top 4 as the players have lost a lot of confidence and composure. We unfortunately have come up with some bad luck this year and as such I'm predicting that we will end up in the bottom four as Possm has predicted.

Sorry guys for my drivel and prediction. We do not have the cattle on and off the field from players to coaches to CEO and Board.

Cheers
Dragon David
Welcome, DD! Great, articulate first post. Looking forward to many more. Hope you have the streak of masochism needed to keep following our team.
 

possm

Coach
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16,032
he just is old school, head down runs HARD like a bowling ball, look compared to Latts hes about a 90 percent better player all round , can tackle also
Timm for Latimore is a must, Kerr for Aitken would be a smart move. With these two young props the team will be uplifted and enthused. Just give them the instruction to take the ball up on tackles 2 and 4 respectively, run as hard as you can looking to earn as many post contact metres you can, then move to a quick play the ball.
 

Redhoopz

Juniors
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185
I honestly don't think your going to see any changes to the team that ran out last week. I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped Lomax to the bench and started Aitken. It's wishful thinking that McGregor will make changes based on form. McGregor will only make a change if someone is injured or suspended.

Based on the last few weeks, it looks like Frizzell, Vaughn and Sims are all carrying injuries. Vaughn has looked off since he came off with an ankle injury against the dogs.
 

possm

Coach
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Most on here advocating his promotion haven't seen him play as well !
I've seen Timm play on fox a few times this year. I can say that I'm am very impressed with his performances and as evidenced by the stats, he is suitable for promotion over Latimore. Add to that Kerr over Aitken and we have added a good amount of impact to our forward squad.
 

kit66

Bench
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Most on here advocating his promotion haven't seen him play as well !

I've seen Timm play and can't wait to see him get a shot in firsts.
He is consistently our best forward in reserves ( along with young Ford ), nearly always top in metres gained and often our top tackler - it's usually between him and Robson for tackles. His post contact metres are miles ahead of the next best, he has safe hands, hits hard and doesn't give away silly penalties. Honestly, he can't be far off earning a jersey. If you're going to have a plodder like Lats warming the bench and getting just 12 minutes on the field then you might as well give Timm a shot, I bet you'll get more impact out of him than Lats.
 

denis preston

First Grade
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Denis seen him play a couple of times , and looked good to me . The way some are going I'd have him in the team .....
Well we haven't got much to lose have we ? Trimm & Kerr have much more upside, particularly if the coach is only giving the 3rd interchange 10 mins !
 

denis preston

First Grade
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I honestly don't think your going to see any changes to the team that ran out last week. I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped Lomax to the bench and started Aitken. It's wishful thinking that McGregor will make changes based on form. McGregor will only make a change if someone is injured or suspended.

Based on the last few weeks, it looks like Frizzell, Vaughn and Sims are all carrying injuries. Vaughn has looked off since he came off with an ankle injury against the dogs.
I suspect you are right and how depressing is that ! Surely someone from the club can have a word in his ear ?
 

denis preston

First Grade
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Fox live NRL teams is suggesting no changes.Dont know how accurate they are but i guess it wouldn't take a genius to work it out.They just get a injury update report and go from there.
 

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