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Round 14 v Raiders

PinkPanther

Juniors
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Wes Naiqama
Travis Robinson
Josh Mansour
Dean Whare
David Simmons
Isaac John
Luke Walsh
Nigel Plum
Kevin Kingston (C)
Mose Masoe
Sika Manu
Lewis Brown
Adam Docker

James Segeyaro
Matt Robinson
Cameron Ciraldo
Clint Newton
Ryan Simpkins
 

meek

Juniors
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could be a dark day I think - we just don't look the same team with No Grant and No Moylan .
Mansour in centers not so sure - should make his desciples happy tho
weak bench - Ciraldo and Newton offer IMO nothing
Walsh appeared to be back to true form last week - DUD
 
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Scotty03

Juniors
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My thoughts are the same as everyone elses.

Wes....may be a strong runner of the ball, but doesn't support the ball runners and makes bad defensive decisions.

Mansour in centres? Geez.....bit of a gamble. He likes to rush up out of the line which sees him caught out more times than not - reminds me of a young jennings before he worked on his defense.

Newton (while I'm not a fan) I can kind of understand due to injuries....but Ciraldo? You have to be kidding me.

If Walsh believes his kicking game alone will win us this game, he's mistaken. He MUST take on the line.
But I'm predicting 5th, BOMB, 5th BOMB.


Based on injuries/the Moylan BS, I would of much preferred;

1.T Robinson
2.Mansour
3.Brown
4.Whare
5.Simmons
6.John
7.Walsh
8.Plum
9.Kingston
10.Masoe
11.Manu
12.Robinson
13.Docker

inter:
14.Segeyaro
15.O'Donnell
16.Cherrington
17.Newton

At least this way he have some grunt coming off the bench.
If we don't attempt to match Canberras pack (even though we'll struggle anyway) we'll have no chance against them.
 

franklin2323

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My thoughts are the same as everyone elses.

Wes....may be a strong runner of the ball, but doesn't support the ball runners and makes bad defensive decisions.

Mansour in centres? Geez.....bit of a gamble. He likes to rush up out of the line which sees him caught out more times than not - reminds me of a young jennings before he worked on his defense.

Newton (while I'm not a fan) I can kind of understand due to injuries....but Ciraldo? You have to be kidding me.

If Walsh believes his kicking game alone will win us this game, he's mistaken. He MUST take on the line.
But I'm predicting 5th, BOMB, 5th BOMB.


Based on injuries/the Moylan BS, I would of much preferred;

1.T Robinson
2.Mansour
3.Brown
4.Whare
5.Simmons
6.John
7.Walsh
8.Plum
9.Kingston
10.Masoe
11.Manu
12.Robinson
13.Docker

inter:
14.Segeyaro
15.O'Donnell
16.Cherrington
17.Newton

At least this way he have some grunt coming off the bench.
If we don't attempt to match Canberras pack (even though we'll struggle anyway) we'll have no chance against them.

Cherrington & KOD are 2nd tier can't play due to the stupid rule.

Unless Moylan and Grant come back we have this squad. So Newton start with Masoe off the bench gets us something off the bench which is what we lacked last week
 

Scotty03

Juniors
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Ok what about

1.T Robinson
2.Mansour
3.Daniela
4.Whare
5.Simmons
6.John
7.Walsh
8.Plum
9.Kingston
10.Docker
11.Manu
12.Robinson
13.Brown

inter:
14.Segeyaro
15.O'Donnell
16.Masoe
17.Newton

Or is O'Donnell 2nd tier as well? If so I give up.
 

Big Mick

Referee
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O'Donnell is 2nd tier.

IMO however we can make a case for him to be promoted as we have no other specialist prop.

With Cherrington but, don't hold your hopes out while we have Newton & Ciraldo fit.

I don't want Daniela near first grade. I'd rather than Brown stay in the centres.

Just a shame James Roberts got injured again.

Unfortunately it is the best we can do right now without breaking salary cap rules.
 
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Matt Moylan has offered to play for free according to NRL Gossip so he can play with his team mates in 1st grade. I'm going to say it now, he is a future Panthers captain!
 

Big Mick

Referee
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Great PR move but unfortunately cannot happen.

According to the CBA all players outside the top 25 generate mandatory match payments, hence the 2nd tier cap.

So while it is fantastic the kid made the offer and is a credit to him, I doubt the NRL would let it fly nor would the RLPA as it is against the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

And since the NRL would see this as a means to increase future income (hit his clauses in contract just signed) then I doubt they would allow it.

However, it is great he offered & hopefully NRL do it.
 

franklin2323

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Ok what about

1.T Robinson
2.Mansour
3.Daniela
4.Whare
5.Simmons
6.John
7.Walsh
8.Plum
9.Kingston
10.Docker
11.Manu
12.Robinson
13.Brown

inter:
14.Segeyaro
15.O'Donnell
16.Masoe
17.Newton

Or is O'Donnell 2nd tier as well? If so I give up.

Yep. 2nd tier. If Naiqama is infact injuried like the Australian said Moylan in. Grant was going to play this week he said in the telegraph.

Without those 2 the backs stay the same.

I would go with

Plum
Kingston
Ciraldo
Manu
Brown
Docker

Sege
Masoe
Robinson
Newton

We were found out when we had Docker, Plum, Masoe and Manu off. This way we don't have those problems.

It's only for 1 game. Next week Anderson, Latimore are back. After the bye Roberts and Grant's back

If we get Moylan back with a proper prop rotation we can make a late run for the finals. If no Moylan Roberts needs to be fullback but I have been told within a month it should be sorted. So I hope for the Dragons game it's fixed
 

franklin2323

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Matt Moylan has offered to play for free according to NRL Gossip so he can play with his team mates in 1st grade. I'm going to say it now, he is a future Panthers captain!

Kingston and the Eels players tried the same thing to keep him there. Didn't get allowed this wont sadly
 

Scotty03

Juniors
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238
I bet if Cowboy Bennett was coach we'd have him playing..

The NRL seem to sh!t bricks when he fires his mouth off.
 

meek

Juniors
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O'Donnell is 2nd tier.

IMO however we can make a case for him to be promoted as we have no other specialist prop.

With Cherrington but, don't hold your hopes out while we have Newton & Ciraldo fit.

I don't want Daniela near first grade. I'd rather than Brown stay in the centres.

Just a shame James Roberts got injured again.

Unfortunately it is the best we can do right now without breaking salary cap rules.


Agree 100% Please No Daniella ever - has had more goes [ lives ] than a cat - Should be back up for the back up for the back up for the backup and thats all.
Brown in centers offers a bit of defensive grunt IMO -
am worried abt Mansour think they may target that side - given his IMO poor defensive reads
Hope we win but cant see anything but a Raiders thrashing coming .
Unless as another poster said we can induce a massive flu bout in the Canberra squad
 
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chrisD

Coach
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If Wes plays, based on last week I worry for our 1, 2 and 5. Wes was standard but we need a creative fullback in this team, would rather Moss but that seems out of the question with this lot.

Will be interesting to see how Mansour goes, and if he starts and stays at centre the whole game, a back whose best ability is his offload should be given a shot at centre.
 

Scotty03

Juniors
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238
If Wes plays, based on last week I worry for our 1, 2 and 5. Wes was standard but we need a creative fullback in this team, would rather Moss but that seems out of the question with this lot.

Will be interesting to see how Mansour goes, and if he starts and stays at centre the whole game, a back whose best ability is his offload should be given a shot at centre.

The issue is, if you have a bad defensive centre it screws up the entire backline.

Mansour will still get his hitups and offloads on the wing (as he's done the last year for us.)
Can't put him at fullback as he struggles with the high ball and has no passing/kicking game what so ever (which I think good fullbacks have - i.e. Moylan)

Best bet is;

1.T Robinson
2.Mansour
3.Brown
4.Whare
5.Simmo

I think Brown can help keep Mansour in position, so shouldn't leak many points on our edges.
 

murraymob

Coach
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What has brad tighe done to be on the outer.You would think if he is behind mansour at center he is in real trouble.you do wonder if he is on the to be moved on list
 
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