Round 15 V Roosters

[Pomoz]

I used to read the same comments about Staines, when talking about Simmons scoring tries "anybody could score them". Only it's not true. Being in the right place at the right time is a skill that sets some winger apart from others.
Lee Oudenryn was a pretty fast winger, considered to be the fastest man in the ARL at one point. Supposedly faster than Martin Offiah, yet his try scoring rate was half that of Martin Offiah when he played ARL. Both of them played for teams lower than mid table. Offiah had a habit of popping up in the right place at the right time.

It doesn't matter if you have a great centre if the winger is in the wrong place. Mansour was always over-running the play, or, when he got it he didn't score because he was too slow. Then there's wingers who are back down the field watching what's going on like a spectator, or, not there as the ball sails over the touch line because they misread the play and move inside.

Give the kid a break, Charlie Staines is 20 years old and has played 16 games. Somehow he has scored 16 tries in spite of being err, slow, playing outside Momoroski and apparently having very little talent. He is still learning the game and clearly hasn't finished physically developing. Robert Jennings is 192cm and 106kg, of course he will make more metres. But can he score as many tres and defend as well?

 

[betcats]

I used to read the same comments about Staines, when talking about Simmons scoring tries "anybody could score them". Only it's not true. Being in the right place at the right time is a skill that sets some winger apart from others.
Lee Oudenryn was a pretty fast winger, considered to be the fastest man in the ARL at one point. Supposedly faster than Martin Offiah, yet his try scoring rate was half that of Martin Offiah when he played ARL. Both of them played for teams lower than mid table. Offiah had a habit of popping up in the right place at the right time.

It doesn't matter if you have a great centre if the winger is in the wrong place. Mansour was always over-running the play, or, when he got it he didn't score because he was too slow. Then there's wingers who are back down the field watching what's going on like a spectator, or, not there as the ball sails over the touch line because they misread the play and move inside.

Give the kid a break, Charlie Staines is 20 years old and has played 16 games. Somehow he has scored 16 tries in spite of being err, slow, playing outside Momoroski and apparently having very little talent. He is still learning the game and clearly hasn't finished physically developing. Robert Jennings is 192cm and 106kg, of course he will make more metres. But can he score as many tres and defend as well?

Good points. Timing and reading the game are a big part of finishing. Sauce would legit bomb tries by overruning it as you say, he would drop it with the line wide open also he has done that twice this year when I have watched him. Defence is another as part here, we know Rob Jennings has always been a good try scorer but his defence has never been up to par, same as Naden. Comments like "there is more to the game than scoring" are true but there is also more to the game than racking up metres which is the only area Naden or Jennings would clearly be better than Staines(Naden better in the air also not sure about Jennings). Staines reads the game well and makes good decisions, he has stopped overlaps coming in and targeting the right player many times, this is an area he clearly is ahead of guys like Naden and Jennings.

 

[franklin2323]

I used to read the same comments about Staines, when talking about Simmons scoring tries "anybody could score them". Only it's not true. Being in the right place at the right time is a skill that sets some winger apart from others.
Lee Oudenryn was a pretty fast winger, considered to be the fastest man in the ARL at one point. Supposedly faster than Martin Offiah, yet his try scoring rate was half that of Martin Offiah when he played ARL. Both of them played for teams lower than mid table. Offiah had a habit of popping up in the right place at the right time.

It doesn't matter if you have a great centre if the winger is in the wrong place. Mansour was always over-running the play, or, when he got it he didn't score because he was too slow. Then there's wingers who are back down the field watching what's going on like a spectator, or, not there as the ball sails over the touch line because they misread the play and move inside.

Give the kid a break, Charlie Staines is 20 years old and has played 16 games. Somehow he has scored 16 tries in spite of being err, slow, playing outside Momoroski and apparently having very little talent. He is still learning the game and clearly hasn't finished physically developing. Robert Jennings is 192cm and 106kg, of course he will make more metres. But can he score as many tres and defend as well?

Look at the way Roosters are bringing Walker and Suualli for that matter on slowly. Lets see who develops better time will tell

 

[Smug Panther]

Look at the way Roosters are bringing Walker and Suualli for that matter on slowly. Lets see who develops better time will tell

Playing him on the wing is slowly

 

[betcats]

Look at the way Roosters are bringing Walker and Suualli for that matter on slowly. Lets see who develops better time will tell

Playing a 17 year old in the NRL is not bringing him on slowly by any means. Walker is 18 and playing regular NRL games smaller and younger than Staines was when he debuted.

 

[franklin2323]

Playing a 17 year old in the NRL is not bringing him on slowly by any means. Walker is 18 and playing regular NRL games smaller and younger than Staines was when he debuted.

Walker isn't going to play against us. 2nd game in the last 3 he has been rested.

Ikuvalu has nothing on Suuali long term yet he plays every game with Suuali getting the odd game here and there.

Same with Ieremaia at Storm. He will get JAC spot next year. Is better than Jennings like above gets the odd game here and there.

Like Leinu and May who are likely back by Finals time. No reason Staines can get a little break from NRL to freshen up.

 

[unKwn]

Look at the 2 tries Staines scores here. Definitely not gimme tries. He is clearly more than capable of scoring tries like that, it’s just that he hasn’t been in many positions this year to do so. There have probably been times this year where he’s hesitated for a short moment before sending it for the corner and then getting put into touch, but I’ll back him to improve on that, we’ve seen him score those tries before.

I’d definitely back him over Sauce and Jennings to score those anyday. Naden could maybe, but his defence is poor

 

[betcats]

Walker isn't going to play against us. 2nd game in the last 3 he has been rested.

Ikuvalu has nothing on Suuali long term yet he plays every game with Suuali getting the odd game here and there.

Same with Ieremaia at Storm. He will get JAC spot next year. Is better than Jennings like above gets the odd game here and there.

Like Leinu and May who are likely back by Finals time. No reason Staines can get a little break from NRL to freshen up.

Walker is out injured, he has been playing carrying a shoulder complaint and now has hurt the other shoulder.

What reason does Staines need a break from the NRL? Besides not making as metres as some wingers what is he not doing well(his metre making isnt changing anytime soon so resting him makes zero different)? What does he need to work on? his form has been good, he isnt carrying and injuries that we have heard about, what reason is there to drop him?

 

[Smug Panther]

Walker is out injured, he has been playing carrying a shoulder complaint and now has hurt the other shoulder.

What reason does Staines need a break from the NRL? Besides not making as metres as some wingers what is he not doing well(his metre making isnt changing anytime soon so resting him makes zero different)? What does he need to work on? his form has been good, he isnt carrying and injuries that we have heard about, what reason is there to drop him?

Id play Rennings if we still had bums like Clint Newton, Brent Kite or Adam Docker plodding it up. Sauce made a whole career out of carrying bad forwards

 

[snickers007]

Id play Rennings if we still had bums like Clint Newton, Brent Kite or Adam Docker plodding it up. Sauce made a whole career out of carrying bad forwards

This is your first warning for disrespecting the Doctor.

 

[franklin2323]

Walker is out injured, he has been playing carrying a shoulder complaint and now has hurt the other shoulder.

What reason does Staines need a break from the NRL? Besides not making as metres as some wingers what is he not doing well(his metre making isnt changing anytime soon so resting him makes zero different)? What does he need to work on? his form has been good, he isnt carrying and injuries that we have heard about, what reason is there to drop him?

He doesn't get involved enough. He has forgotten his fullback instincts no reason he can't play the same way Tom Turbo did in Origin. If he isn't going to do the hard stuff then get him doing stuff with the ball more then just wait for the inside guys to pass it.

A few weeks playing FB in NSW Cup will give a freshen up and a chance to try new things. Also gives Naden a couple of games in the top grade incase he is needed in the back end of the year.

 

[franklin2323]

Id play Rennings if we still had bums like Clint Newton, Brent Kite or Adam Docker plodding it up. Sauce made a whole career out of carrying bad forwards

Our bench named is terrible. Any of those look like stars if we run out 1-17

 

[martielang]

I don't think anyone's questioning Staines potential or ability but f**k me it wouldn't be the end of the world to give him a spell in ressies for a week or two. Speaking of Clint Newton, he could've done Staines job the last few weeks.

 

[Pomoz]

I don't think anyone's questioning Staines potential or ability but f**k me it wouldn't be the end of the world to give him a spell in ressies for a week or two. Speaking of Clint Newton, he could've done Staines job the last few weeks.

No issue giving him a spell, the physical toll of first grade takes its toll. I just thought the criticism was misplaced. He ain't perfect, but for a 16 game veteran he goes alright. If you spell him, pick a game where the forward battle will be tough, this and the Parramatta game will most certainly be that way.

 

[Smug Panther]

This is your first warning for disrespecting the Doctor.

Look I enjoyed the 2 or 3 great hits a game, didn't enjoy him missing half his tackles and making no meters though

 

[WestyLife]

Playing Staines on the wing IS easing him in. The RTS treatment.

 

[murraymob]

Another home game where all allocated seats have been sold .the club is experiencing its best season both on and off the feild

 

[franklin2323]

No issue giving him a spell, the physical toll of first grade takes its toll. I just thought the criticism was misplaced. He ain't perfect, but for a 16 game veteran he goes alright. If you spell him, pick a game where the forward battle will be tough, this and the Parramatta game will most certainly be that way.

It isn't about going alright it is about he developing to have more of an impact in games. Leinu, May and Momo were going alright too...

 

[franklin2323]

Another home game where all allocated seats have been sold .the club is experiencing its best season both on and off the feild

Shame Covid stops 100% capacity

 

[Smug Panther]

Shame Covid stops 100% capacity

It's nonsense