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Round 18 v Roosters

Draginzaaar

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To everyone who have been defending Lomax and Lawrie relentlessly, today exemplified exactly why they are so heavily criticised. Both bottom 5 players in their position in this competition. Lomax responsible either directly or indirectly for 4 of their tries. Lawrie for 2. Bird is another offender, responsible for 2 himself. The incredible thing is, all of these 3 players seem to be automatic selections every week and they kill us. Ridiculous.
Bird, McCollough and Woods and more worried about trying to milk a penalty than getting a quick play the ball.
 

18to87

Coach
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How many times this season has a BS sin bin affected us? Woods going in the bin changed the whole momentum of the game.



Ok we were poor no argument their but East's really weren't that good either team will be playing finals football IMO.



Hook needs to go why he persists with the slowest dummy half in the game is bewildering I honestly think the combination of Mbye and Sullivan would be 1000x more effective. Our defence and our attack suck the sad thing is we scored 26 points today that's the third most points we've scored this season and we still got pumped changes are desperately needed Hook is doing the same crap as Mary now sticking with the old has beens instead of giving the young kids ago another 2 seasons completely wasted.
Haven't seen many people say the Woods sin bin was unjustified, ditto with Sims last week, although I think the first one was unjustified. Some of the sin bin's earlier in the year were justified too.

So is it the refs or is it the team and coach? Probably the latter. Although it would be nice to see someone on the opposition sin binned.
 

Draginzaaar

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He overran it because, Lomax wasn't looking to see where Moga had positioned himself. Basic under 8's skill lessons have obviously gone amiss with this fella, seems as though or the hype he gets when it comes off has gone to his head. FMD.
Maybe he can't draw and pass like we learn we we are 6? I have never seen him look to where he is passing. No look pass every time.
 

dungay dragon

Juniors
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That second half was a disgrace. Not acceptable

Haven't seen many people say the Woods sin bin was unjustified, ditto with Sims last week, although I think the first one was unjustified. Some of the sin bin's earlier in the year were justified too.

So is it the refs or is it the team and coach? Probably the latter. Although it would be nice to see someone on the opposition sin binned.
Woods was looking for an early exit so he wasnt late for his radio gig
got the timing wrong on both counts 🤔 😄
 
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Competitive first half

Woeful lack of intensity and energy second half

Dumb, ill disciplined, no focus.

Roosters are a top 6 side that has underperformed for various reasons this season.

Saints have not beaten a top 6 side all season.

Unfortunately we need a major overhaul of both the playing group and the coaching staff.
 

Revesby boy

Juniors
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Haven't seen many people say the Woods sin bin was unjustified, ditto with Sims last week, although I think the first one was unjustified. Some of the sin bin's earlier in the year were justified too.

So is it the refs or is it the team and coach? Probably the latter. Although it would be nice to see someone on the opposition sin binned.
It would be nice for the coach (Hook) to come out in the presser and say “ I thought the ref was a bit harsh on us with that sin bin” instead we get “ well the Rorters were just really good “ FMD if you can’t man up then just f**k off!!!
 

BLM01

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In my opinion it was very 50 50. Woods sticks his arm out but Walker didn’t even lose any momentum in the run through, seen way worse let go. The annoying part is we can’t defend for the 10 mins without getting shredded just like yesterday , last week, and the same vs Penrith and Cronulla.

We are probably better off conceding the 1 try and remaining with 13 players then taking the sin bin and conceding 3 tries and having the game blow out
We were actually doing very well during the sin bin until Zac had a brain explosion. We were winning the sin bin period at that stage
 

Illusion

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It would be nice for the coach (Hook) to come out in the presser and say “ I thought the ref was a bit harsh on us with that sin bin” instead we get “ well the Rorters were just really good “ FMD if you can’t man up then just f**k off!!!
Ah , those Pressers really sh*t me , the guy is completely lost and must be the same in the sheds ...... No Idea or passion ......
 

BLM01

First Grade
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Competitive first half

Woeful lack of intensity and energy second half

Dumb, ill disciplined, no focus.

Roosters are a top 6 side that has underperformed for various reasons this season.

Saints have not beaten a top 6 side all season.

Unfortunately we need a major overhaul of both the playing group and the coaching staff.
Unfortunately re the playing group there is not enough out there to do an overhaul
It is getting worse now we have 17 who are struggling to fill a squad with the draw card master coach...and they want an 18th team
Yes top coaches and assistants can improve teams but their are not enough of them to go round either
 

merahputih

Juniors
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Competitive first half

Woeful lack of intensity and energy second half

Dumb, ill disciplined, no focus.

Roosters are a top 6 side that has underperformed for various reasons this season.

Saints have not beaten a top 6 side all season.

Unfortunately we need a major overhaul of both the playing group and the coaching staff.
Isn't it about time we were compensated somehow for playing these teams back into form over the years? Maybe share the points?
 

Lovemedragons

Juniors
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Haven't seen many people say the Woods sin bin was unjustified, ditto with Sims last week, although I think the first one was unjustified. Some of the sin bin's earlier in the year were justified too.

So is it the refs or is it the team and coach? Probably the latter. Although it would be nice to see someone on the opposition sin binned.
As a coach watching his team giving their all and then seeing this lazy has been unnecessarily pull a sin bin only to see the team drop their bundle and melt away the season….lets put him straight back out there! If I were coach Woods would never wear the red V again.
 
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Competitive first half

Woeful lack of intensity and energy second half

Dumb, ill disciplined, no focus.

Roosters are a top 6 side that has underperformed for various reasons this season.

Saints have not beaten a top 6 side all season.

Unfortunately we need a major overhaul of both the playing group and the coaching staff.
Team is mostly devoid of talent, Hunt an exception. Frequently mentioned is the fact that most of the recruiting ha been of older washed up players, it reflects in performances. The executives running the club are responsible in a big way for the current situation There has been a lack of planning and forward thinking. Very disappointing.
 

Lovemedragons

Juniors
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Team is mostly devoid of talent, Hunt an exception. Frequently mentioned is the fact that most of the recruiting ha been of older washed up players, it reflects in performances. The executives running the club are responsible in a big way for the current situation There has been a lack of planning and forward thinking. Very disappointing.
They take the easy optipn every time because they are simply not capable of putting together an attractive proposition to the top echelon. Hunt was our last marquee signing and that was 4 years ago. Since then? Crickets. The rot starts at the head.
 

redv13

Bench
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Ah , those Pressers really sh*t me , the guy is completely lost and must be the same in the sheds ...... No Idea or passion ......
Hook did say that he thought it wasn’t a sin bin or even a penalty. I have to agree that was a very harsh call to bin Woods and that happens every game every week. Some refs let it go and some cane you. Same ref 2 weeks in a row, same tough 50 50 call
 

redv13

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We were actually doing very well during the sin bin until Zac had a brain explosion. We were winning the sin bin period at that stage
Yep agree. I nearly died when that moment happened and it went to shit pretty quickly after that. You can’t invite sides to hurt you especially the Roosters who have way too many guns to be sitting outside the top 8
 

mickeylane

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The issue is that Lomax is consistently bad. He has a good game once, maybe twice a season at a pinch. He’s just so heavily overrated. I was at the game and watching him live, he’s just comparatively so inept to others out there. Even when it’s innocuous because it leads to nothing, he pointlessly rushes in and creates a hole on his outside. He’s just lucky it doesn’t lead to something on those occasions. Being responsible for 4 tries is, in my opinion, completely unacceptable and allowing it to happen by picking him week in week out sets a terrible example. He also constantly turns his back in defence. Actually he does this on every single play where the opposition make metres. When the opposition get an offload he realises too late because his back is turned and puts us on the back foot because it leads to him being carted backwards in defence. On top of that, his inability to slide in defence is always costly. He either flys in or just runs backwards which is good for conceding tries every week. I understand your opinion about him having a good centre in him because he has talent and some special moments. But that’s my analysis on him. Also, those special moments only come off once every 20 attempts. I can’t stand him as a player and would quite gladly see him leave
4 more years to go !!
 

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