Round 20 Vs Bulldogs.

[Kilkenny]

Papenhuyzen missed the last 2 weeks. They have a stack missing this week the same applies to the team running 2nd. Yet a coach that knows how to win is doing this very thing

What if we lose week 1? You want to be in position to play 4 intense games if you need too

No successful coach applies such logic.

Given we may lose in Week 1 of the semi’s I better rest players against the Bulldogs just in case we may have to play four weeks in a row.

It is of no interest to me who Bellamy chooses to rest. That is his decision. I assume his fullback has been carrying a niggling injury otherwise he would have been playing.

We rested two of our forwards against the Cowboys. It’s about balance and I am sure Ivan will rest a couple of our players carrying niggles against the Bulldogs, I am not suggesting otherwise I am simply saying resting players for the sake of it is not the way to go.

 

[WestyLife]

No successful coach applies such logic.

Just the best 2 coaches in the game.

It is of no interest to me who Bellamy chooses to rest. That is his decision. I assume his fullback has been carrying a niggling injury otherwise he would have been playing.

We rested two of our forwards against the Cowboys. It’s about balance and I am sure Ivan will rest a couple of our players carrying niggles against the Bulldogs, I am not suggesting otherwise I am simply saying resting players for the sake of it is not the way to go.

Your assumption. Bellamy is well known for resting players at key times of the year.

 

[franklin2323]

No successful coach applies such logic.

Given we may lose in Week 1 of the semi’s I better rest players against the Bulldogs just in case we may have to play four weeks in a row.

It is of no interest to me who Bellamy chooses to rest. That is his decision. I assume his fullback has been carrying a niggling injury otherwise he would have been playing.

We rested two of our forwards against the Cowboys. It’s about balance and I am sure Ivan will rest a couple of our players carrying niggles against the Bulldogs, I am not suggesting otherwise I am simply saying resting players for the sake of it is not the way to go.

It is no interest what the best coach does in the same situation?

They are exactly the type of guides we should use

 

[franklin2323]

Just the best 2 coaches in the game.



Your assumption. Bellamy is well known for resting players at key times of the year.

As is Robinson

 

[GongPanther]

My personal opinion we only rest anyone who may have a niggle otherwise we just keep doing what has served us so well. I’m not sure fringe players getting minutes against the Bulldogs is going to make a whole lot of difference to there match fitness. It will be interesting to see the team we put out.

I see this as the plan as we did our final resting of players last week. I can't recall a team resting players two weeks in a row prior to the finals. I say full strength, and go from there.

 

[Kilkenny]

Just the best 2 coaches in the game.



Your assumption. Bellamy is well known for resting players at key times of the year.

I give up.

Neither you nor Franklin have at any stage even ventured to comment on my main point around having key players potentially going into a Major Semi Final with one game under there belts in one month. That is all I have been trying to say all along. Is that the potential high risk strategy that we should be employing??????

 

[WestyLife]

I give up.

Neither you nor Franklin have at any stage even ventured to comment on my main point around having key players potentially going into a Major Semi Final with one game under there belts in one month. That is all I have been trying to say all along. Is that the potential high risk strategy that we should be employing??????

That's not high risk though. They've just played 18 games they aren't losing anything because of one game against the second worse team in the comp( I mentioned this before)

 

[Kilkenny]

That's not high risk though. They've just played 18 games they aren't losing anything because of one game against the second worse team in the comp( I mentioned this before)

No more comment from me on this subject, I am at a loss, I really am. Obviously, I have not communicated my point very well.

Your right, there is no risk in going into a Major Semi Final on the either the 16th or 17th October with keys players potentially only having played one game in a month.

 

[franklin2323]

No more comment from me on this subject, I am at a loss, I really am. Obviously, I have not communicated my point very well.

Your right, there is no risk in going into a Major Semi Final on the either the 16th or 17th October with keys players potentially only having played one game in a month.

What is the risk? And why have the Roosters and Storm done it?

Those sides know how to win comps.

 

[franklin2323]

That's not high risk though. They've just played 18 games they aren't losing anything because of one game against the second worse team in the comp( I mentioned this before)

Yep. Combinations are there. Players will trains as normal just have a few days off around game time. Come into training on Monday refreshed and not having to rehab bumps and bruises

 

[Kilkenny]

What is the risk? And why have the Roosters and Storm done it?

Those sides know how to win comps.

You’ve converted me, there is no risk whatsoever. I now realise let’s rest six or more of our key players this week, win week 1 and they will be fresh as going into a Major Semi Final with one game in four weeks. All good. (Actually I’m not sure either the Storm or Roosters have employed such as strategy but anyway you seem to think so)

 

[WestyLife]

No more comment from me on this subject, I am at a loss, I really am. Obviously, I have not communicated my point very well.

Your right, there is no risk in going into a Major Semi Final on the either the 16th or 17th October with keys players potentially only having played one game in a month.

You've communicated your point fine. I just disagree on the level of risk that your concern poses for the finals. If our last round game was a top 8 team I could see more benefit but like the Cows game they'll get ahead by 20 and switch off (Ivan's words after the cowboys game).

 

[Kilkenny]

You've communicated your point fine. I just disagree on the level of risk that your concern poses for the finals. If our last round game was a top 8 team I could see more benefit but like the Cows game they'll get ahead by 20 and switch off (Ivan's words after the cowboys game).

Again no mention whatsoever of my point?

Are you comfortable going into the Major Semi Final with half a dozen or more players (rested this week) who have only played one game in a month?

Please just a yes or not answer to this question?

 

[franklin2323]

Again no mention whatsoever of my point?

Are you comfortable going into the Major Semi Final with half a dozen or more players (rested this week) who have only played one game in a month?

Please just a yes or not answer to this question?

Yes.

None are coming back from injury has been a long season mentally especially.

Who has won the comp after playing every week in finals?

 

[Kilkenny]

Yes.

None are coming back from injury has been a long season mentally especially.

Who has won the comp after playing every week in finals?

A Yes. Well done with that one Franklin.

Not sure either the super coaches in Robinson or Bellamy would agree with you but all good with that.

 

[Abacus]

Again no mention whatsoever of my point?

Are you comfortable going into the Major Semi Final with half a dozen or more players (rested this week) who have only played one game in a month?

Please just a yes or not answer to this question?

Yes. Back the conditioning of the players. Players training workloads have been managed all year - this is no different. Its not like they'll be sitting around for 4 weeks doing f**k all.

 

[Kilkenny]

Yes.

None are coming back from injury has been a long season mentally especially.

Who has won the comp after playing every week in finals?

I think there is a general rule of thought the week off before the GF is beneficial.

I’m not sure there is a general rule of thought three weeks off leading into a GF is beneficial or even get you there?

We have a side full of kids, there are no mental issues, they are not struggling they are doing what they do.

By all means rest JFH this week, otherwise all the kids are ready to go and o what they do best.

 

[Smug Panther]

If Nathan,Api or Edwards (unless Ivan has the balls to play Critter at 1) go down the year is done. No reason they need to play this week

 

[franklin2323]

I think there is a general rule of thought the week off before the GF is beneficial.

I’m not sure there is a general rule of thought three weeks off leading into a GF is beneficial or even get you there?

We have a side full of kids, there are no mental issues, they are not struggling they are doing what they do.

By all means rest JFH this week, otherwise all the kids are ready to go and o what they do best.

No but you have a bye mid season. You don't travel on the day of the game normally. You have fringe guys playing regular footy of some sort.

It has been a long draining season. A recharge can be good

 

[Abacus]

A Yes. Well done with that one Franklin.

Not sure either the super coaches in Robinson or Bellamy would agree with you but all good with that.

Please give us more insights into the thinking of supercoaches Bellamy & Robinson. You've obviously a master of coaching tactics & strategy yourself.

Sorry to get narky, but you've carried on your argument through this thread to the point of issuing ultimatums. Just face the fact that others see the benefit of a week off for players now. You also assume we'll win week 1 & get a week off - that is no guarantee so you may end up missing the chance to give players a week off and usually tired players become injured players. Absolutely rest your key players from a "nothing" match amd keep your eyes on the bigger prize.