Round 3 vs Storm

[mxlegend99]

Yeo in defence is the huge loss. Fuimaono and Winterstein are better than Yeo in attack but he is our best defender.

How do you figure they're better in attack? Do you think Isaah Yeo is shit? Or that these benchies were outstanding?

Fuimaono has never had a linebreak in his short NRL career. He has 2 tries which isnt bad in tgat time, but he's not really a threat for busting the line or making big metres.

Frank Winterstein had 5 linebreaks across 3 seasons at Manly. He had 3 tries in those 3 seasons grabbing his 4th from putting his hand on a loose ball with us.

Last year Winterstein averaged 31m per game and Fuimaono averaged 47m. These guys have been benchies who played limited minutes. But neither is an attacking weapon or used to playing big minutes.

Isaah Yeo is an 80 minute starter with a huge workload in attack and defence. While attack may not be the area he shines. Last year he had 4 tries, 7 linebreaks and averaged 112m per game. Hardly brag worthy compared to many second rowers. But comfortably our second best behind Kikau.

I see him as a huge loss on both sides of the ball. While I wouldnt go as far as to call Tyrell of Frank bad... I just dont think they're close to the same class as Yeo.

 

[franklin2323]

Cleary coached two wins against them last year ( incl. Slater) ..with what you would all consider an inferior team so there should be every reason to be optomistic...Ivan knows how to beat them. you have SOO halves and forwards. ..why shouldn't you win?

In theory yes but the flip side is the halves have changed sides. JFH is now on the edge. New coach so we are a slow burn. We will make the 8. How high we get is the question and depends how quickly we get used to those things

 

[franklin2323]

How do you figure they're better in attack? Do you think Isaah Yeo is shit? Or that these benchies were outstanding?

Fuimaono has never had a linebreak in his short NRL career. He has 2 tries which isnt bad in tgat time, but he's not really a threat for busting the line or making big metres.

Frank Winterstein had 5 linebreaks across 3 seasons at Manly. He had 3 tries in those 3 seasons grabbing his 4th from putting his hand on a loose ball with us.

Last year Winterstein averaged 31m per game and Fuimaono averaged 47m. These guys have been benchies who played limited minutes. But neither is an attacking weapon or used to playing big minutes.

Isaah Yeo is an 80 minute starter with a huge workload in attack and defence. While attack may not be the area he shines. Last year he had 4 tries, 7 linebreaks and averaged 112m per game. Hardly brag worthy compared to many second rowers. But comfortably our second best behind Kikau.

I see him as a huge loss on both sides of the ball. While I wouldnt go as far as to call Tyrell of Frank bad... I just dont think they're close to the same class as Yeo.

Like you said Yeo does the basics very well and an argument can be made that he is our best player. He certainly has been our most consistent now. You rarely see him get an arm free to offload though or put a back away etc.

That is what those 2 bring the problem with that is it can lead to lose balls, etc. We no doubt will be a better side once Yeo and Kikau are back but for a week we are a bit more unpredictable

 

[age.s]

You regularly see Yeo getting 5+ meters post contact carting 3 dudes on his back though. He turns the defence around and opens up space for the next play. He's no Kikau but he's far from a defensive specialist and I don't see what Winterstein and Fuimaono (promising as they are) have done to leapfrog him in any aspect of the game.

He's as big a loss as anyone.

 

[mxlegend99]

You regularly see Yeo getting 5+ meters post contact carting 3 dudes on his back though. He turns the defence around and opens up space for the next play. He's no Kikau but he's far from a defensive specialist and I don't see what Winterstein and Fuimaono (promising as they are) have done to leapfrog him in any aspect of the game.

He's as big a loss as anyone.

He always pokes his nose through and gains us extra metres. He has like 1 bad game a year... and that was out the way early against Eels.

If we had Peachey still I could see an argument for better attack. Or hell possibly even CHN... although for mine he was just the all around inferior version of Yeo. But a couple of benchies who have rarely if ever pumped out big minutes? No way.

Only advantage we might gain is if everyone feels obligated to step up and share the workload. Might get more out of these guys... like we did with a depleted roster last year against Warriors.

 

[franklin2323]

You regularly see Yeo getting 5+ meters post contact carting 3 dudes on his back though. He turns the defence around and opens up space for the next play. He's no Kikau but he's far from a defensive specialist and I don't see what Winterstein and Fuimaono (promising as they are) have done to leapfrog him in any aspect of the game.

He's as big a loss as anyone.

Never said he wasn't a loss. I have said our backrow being out is huge but we need to get the right side doing offloading or something then drag a few defenders and extra few metres.

Yeo would a perfect lock but need a backrower with something. Hopefully JFH turns into that

 

[chrisD]

I agree I'd prefer Kikau and JFH starting on the edges to Yeo.

 

[franklin2323]

I agree I'd prefer Kikau and JFH starting on the edges to Yeo.

Yeo will still be our best most weeks just we may actually have some attack if teams shut down Kikau

 

[Ads]

Katoa fit for this game?

 

[Buzzard Breath]

Katoa fit for this game?

In a bit of doubt with a groin strain.
Sauce no certainly to play either.
A final call expected to be made tomorrow.

 

[Panfa]

If katoa is out egan will start and luai will get the bench spot and malakai will cover for sauce he was good last week malakai.

 

[Scoopdog]

How do you figure they're better in attack? Do you think Isaah Yeo is shit? Or that these benchies were outstanding?

Fuimaono has never had a linebreak in his short NRL career. He has 2 tries which isnt bad in tgat time, but he's not really a threat for busting the line or making big metres.

Frank Winterstein had 5 linebreaks across 3 seasons at Manly. He had 3 tries in those 3 seasons grabbing his 4th from putting his hand on a loose ball with us.

Last year Winterstein averaged 31m per game and Fuimaono averaged 47m. These guys have been benchies who played limited minutes. But neither is an attacking weapon or used to playing big minutes.

Isaah Yeo is an 80 minute starter with a huge workload in attack and defence. While attack may not be the area he shines. Last year he had 4 tries, 7 linebreaks and averaged 112m per game. Hardly brag worthy compared to many second rowers. But comfortably our second best behind Kikau.

I see him as a huge loss on both sides of the ball. While I wouldnt go as far as to call Tyrell of Frank bad... I just dont think they're close to the same class as Yeo.

The year before when fuimaono was playing 80 mins,he was averaging somewhere near 100mts per game.liited minutes last year for limited mtrs

 

[Fangs]

Lets see what the Rugby League Live 3 simulation gives us as a result.

 

[Panther Mick]

Fun fact.
Heading into round 3 we are the only side not to have a back as a tryscorer. That includes counting the Titans who have only scored one try.

 

[PenrithPanther45]

MWZ and Luai cut from the teamlist, Mansour and Katoa you'd imagine will play now.

 

[Panfa]

Im more worried about ashley klein being the ref than the Melbourne storm themselves

 

[Kilkenny]

Raining heavily in Bathurst overnight and while should be fine by game time could be a greasy surface. Don’t know whether that is good or bad for us.

 

[Pugzley]

We’re dead.

 

[franklin2323]

Raining heavily in Bathurst overnight and while should be fine by game time could be a greasy surface. Don’t know whether that is good or bad for us.

Means the Storm will be predictable attack wise but handling for us is an issue

 

[Panfa]

The weather or the storm dont worry me as much as our 23% win record we have under ashley klein hes my main concern