Round 5 v NQ

[BossleyPanther]

What we need is to put the same side on the paddock each week to build combinations. If that doesn't work THEN drop players.

It's hard when players are consistently getting injured this year. Last year we saw a snippet of them going down. But you are right.

 

[Iamback]

Yeah Laurie looks strangely uncomfortable under those bombs for a fullback.

As much some of the blame is Ivan's.

that, Kenny's forward pass just as we are coming back into the game all are out

 

[BossleyPanther]

As much some of the blame is Ivan's.

that, Kenny's forward pass just as we are coming back into the game all are out

There goes his Origin hopes.

 

[ColdWetPanther]

Outside of injuries, roll with the same team till Magic Round. Give them a chance to build.

 

[ColdWetPanther]

Must admit I have been disappointed with Kenny. Was expecting big things this year. Think his attack has improved but his defence seems to have regressed.

Be lunacy to drop him though.

 

[globalpanther]

Laurie shouldn’t have played v Souths. Behind play he was not walking/running freely at all.

 

[Munky]

Must admit I have been disappointed with Kenny. Was expecting big things this year. Think his attack has improved but his defence seems to have regressed.

Be lunacy to drop him though.

Kenny was progressing really well as an attacking player in 2023.

Capping it off with the sleight of hand to win the GF.

Last year and this season he's looking more like the guy from 2021 who couldn't pass off the ground.

 

[Chins]

Kenny is a goer but he's not very talented

 

[Black Panther]

Kenny was better when he wasn’t running the ball. All he had to do was pass and tackle, now he seems lost.

 

[Iamback]

Kenny was a lock until early 2019. His ceiling isn't as high as a result.

 

[Chins]

Kenny was a lock until early 2019. His ceiling isn't as high as a result.

Excellent 14, average 9

 

[BossleyPanther]

Kenny was a lock until early 2019. His ceiling isn't as high as a result.

Time for him to start for 20 minutes and Sommerton to play hooker rest of the game

 

[Chins]

Time for him to start for 20 minutes and Sommerton to play hooker rest of the game

Maybe but that's pretty limited on cover. Garner, Alamoti and Soro (if he's not washed) probably do allow us to try this. Fullback cover would be the issue

 

[age.s]

Five competetive games ago Kenny close to best on ground in a grand final. He's not been great this year but he's got loads of company in that regard.

 

[BossleyPanther]

Maybe but that's pretty limited on cover. Garner, Alamoti and Soro (if he's not washed) probably do allow us to try this. Fullback cover would be the issue

On the bench
Sommerton
Garner can play centre and Jenkins can go FB
Leota
And after that anyone really

But if it was me as I've seen enough of this I would shake up the squad
At full strength
Edwards
W To'o. Kepaoa
C Jenkins. Alamoti
6. Schneider (hard one, had Toelau)
7 Cleary
P. Smith Martin (going to get along of hate on this one, but it's time)
9. Kenny (off after 20 helps props)
L Yeo
E. Papali'i. Garner
Bench
Sommerton
Henry
Leota
Tago/Sorrenson

 

[Black Panther]

On the bench
Sommerton
Garner can play centre and Jenkins can go FB
Leota
And after that anyone really

But if it was me as I've seen enough of this I would shake up the squad
At full strength
Edwards
W To'o. Kepaoa
C Jenkins. Alamoti
6. Schneider (hard one, had Toelau)
7 Cleary
P. Smith Martin (going to get along of hate on this one, but it's time)
9. Kenny (off after 20 helps props)
L Yeo
E. Papali'i. Garner
Bench
Sommerton
Henry
Sorenson
Tago

No room for Leota, you must be joking. Sure he hasn’t been good so far, but easily makes our best 17. Schneide??? WTF has he done to warrant jumping Cole?

 

[BossleyPanther]

No room for Leota, you must be joking. Sure he hasn’t been good so far, but easily makes our best 17. Schneide??? WTF has he done to warrant jumping Cole?

My mistake, changed

 

[The Realist]

Tago is the single piece that hasn't changed or improved in YEARS now. The free pass he gets is f**ked. You can see no matter who's inside or outside of him do not trust him at all.
He's also offering f**k all with the ball. He used to be dynamic and break tackles at will.
He's one of the most disappointing players I can think of from the last 20 years

I came to this thread wanting to agree with the Tago defamation squad in particular with his defence but thought to myself - if I want to criticise him I had better back it up with examples. So I fired up the highlights and was quite surprised when he came up relatively good.

Sure, he is no Critta, whose anticipation, long length and great technique often locks down his edge and helps everyone around him, but at least in this game against the Bunnies he was hardly at fault.

I will agree with the assessment that he has been disappointing, and that his attacking prowess is greatly diminished (maybe the League is onto him now that he is a known quantity?). He has not been his best self since his peck tear in late 2023 and doesn’t represent good value for money ATM but in saying that, we don’t have better options in the squad.

After viewing the highlights the player I was most disappointed in was Martin. Yeah he scored a brilliant try but he was also involved in several of our defensive lapses and made some silly errors as well. As a senior player who has been in 5 grand finals in a row and is a rep player I expected him to step up and be better.

Alamoti was also poor but it’s tough justifying being harsh on him given how inexperienced he is and how much he is being shifted around.

Obviously the biggest disaster of the night was Daine Laurie who was awful and as has been pointed out, isn’t exactly a young rookie anymore. I hope to God he just had a very off night but something tells me he is a rocks and diamonds player. I’d rather have a reliable 6/10 semi plodder fullback then a fullback who can give you an 8/9 out of 10 but can almost just as often give you a 2 or 3 as well.

 

[The Realist]

H

Kenny is a goer but he's not very talented

He’d struggle to make most other good sides as a #9 but he suits our defence first style.

He just needs to keep things simple and slowly add to his game. He is never going to be a crafty #9 like Cam Smith or an Ennis or even a late Panthers Wallace

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Five competetive games ago Kenny close to best on ground in a grand final. He's not been great this year but he's got loads of company in that regard.

i honestly believe things will improve. the 0 against in 2nd half has the potential to be a good springboard.

Hopefully with Cleary and maybe even Pickles back life will be back to 'normal' pre 2025.