Round 7 Vs the Sharks

[mxlegend99]

Fixed that for you.

Sadly we dont have an alternative.

If only Sam were fit we could drop him. Not that we would. He's our highest paid forward. He's never getting dropped

 

[betcats]

In fairness, Maloney threw him a couple of dodgy passes. One around his ankles, the second out in front of him that he really should have caught. The Sharks were in his face all day.



They didn't play like nuffies. They played like a side who didn't want to go 2 from 7. The had it all over us in the outside backs and played to their strengths. I saw enough to think they'll make the finals.

No Whare is doing it every week, he should’ve caught all those passes one of them was perfect out in front he just has butterfingers, if our defence isn’t on we can’t afford to be killing attacking chances like that we aren’t good enough with the ball yet, give me a centre that can beat someone one v one, I’d rather play Chn there all season at this point, he’s no slower and a f**kload stronger and has better hands.

 

[TheFrog]

If only Sam were fit we could drop him. Not that we would. He's our highest paid forward. He's never getting dropped

He was well down on last week, but reaching for the panic button seems like a bad idea, seeing we face a tough forward pack next game.

 

[TheFrog]

No Whare is doing it every week, he should’ve caught all those passes one of them was perfect out in front he just has butterfingers,

If its the same one I'm thinking of it was about a foot too far in front of him. Not uncatchable but it would have been a good effort with defence boring down on him. The Sharks saw that we were targeting them down that side and plugged the hole extremely well. This is why Whare turned back inside so often, DWZ was covered. We should have tried the other side. This is where having Cleary will make a huge difference.

 

[tripster]

He was well down on last week, but reaching for the panic button seems like a bad idea, seeing we face a tough forward pack next game.

He was down on last week as you say - I thought the only really bad thing Tamou did yesterday was when he and Wallace combined to miss the tackle that lead to the Shark's try after Dugan made a break following Chricton being caught out of position. However, he could be forgiven for that, given that he and everyone else had just run 100 metres to make it back to our line/ I don't think the same miss would have been made if it was a fresh set off our line.

 

[betcats]

If its the same one I'm thinking of it was about a foot too far in front of him. Not uncatchable but it would have been a good effort with defence boring down on him. The Sharks saw that we were targeting them down that side and plugged the hole extremely well. This is why Whare turned back inside so often, DWZ was covered. We should have tried the other side. This is where having Cleary will make a huge difference.

I think your thinking of the one on first tackle where he just kicked it on the full instead of trying to take a tough catch. The two im talking about where very catchable(one was perfect) and he had time, the defence were not in his grill they were sliding.

Im sorry but unless we are putting on back line play(which is rare) he is just not effective. Even on the backline plays he giving up unforced errors. That's 3 times off the top of my head we went to him in attacking situations and he turned over the ball, i can forgive the one he kicked even tho he should of just tried to catch it, the other two were terrible though and completely killed our momentum.

 

[umina panther]

He was well down on last week, but reaching for the panic button seems like a bad idea, seeing we face a tough forward pack next game.

The thing is last week was the only game where he had ever earned is money. He's a straight up plodder on rep dollars

 

[superpanther]

man I am so sick of the media saying how badly injury prone the peptide sharks are. Like we were playing at full strength. We are the probably the worst injury hit team in the comp!!!!

 

[panthersam]

man I am so sick of the media saying how badly injury prone the peptide sharks are. Like we were playing at full strength. We are the probably the worst injury hit team in the comp!!!!

Agreed, it's almost because we have such good depth that people like to forget how many players we do actually have out!

 

[franklin2323]

Tamou 3
Hetherington 4
Peach 4
Whare 2
Wallace 3

and thats being generous...

Merrin would of got the same. The senior guys were shocking. I wouldn't of given anyone over a 6. The Brightside is it was 4 tries all after we dished up that.

Maloney should of known you can't try to score around them. Why spread it just go up the middle

 

[Fangs]

Had a bad feeling about this one. We aren't too good with the favourites tag.

Peachy at 6 is a significant problem. Sharks gameplan was way too simple. They gave Maloney no space and we had no one to lend him a hand. Edwards isn't much of a ball player either. Plus Wallace not using his kicking game out of dummy half. Its honestly a 1 man show out there.

A lot of poor options from Wallace close to the line as well. When he was hooked we looked a better team.

Whare and Crichton had shockers. But with our injuries I don't think Hook will make any changes to the backline.

 

[tripster]

Had a bad feeling about this one. We aren't too good with the favourites tag.

Peachy at 6 is a significant problem. Sharks gameplan was way too simple. They gave Maloney no space and we had no one to lend him a hand. Edwards isn't much of a ball player either. Plus Wallace not using his kicking game out of dummy half. Its honestly a 1 man show out there.

A lot of poor options from Wallace close to the line as well. When he was hooked we looked a better team.

Whare and Crichton had shockers. But with our injuries I don't think Hook will make any changes to the backline.

A big part of our successful run last year occured when Wallace was injured and we rotated between Mitch Rein and Katoa. Katoa's service from dummy half is sublime and he seems to really get our forwards going forward. We saw some of that again yesterday when Katoa came on. He also seems to have added a short kicking game to his bag of tricks.

Wallace looked good in the first few games of the year, but I suspect he is already starting to carry injuries - it is defending in the middle (and his age) that is wearing him down. His face after every game in the press conference is always bruised and battered.

I think the difficultly Hook faces is that Wallace is the captain of the side, and one of our most experienced players. He is also clearly respected by the rest of the team. We take him out of the side and we have even less experience and no clear senior leader on the field other than Maloney.

 

[Fangs]

He may just have to make a tough choice. That or Wallace won't see out the year through history.

Very tough player though and this is 99% likely to be his last year. He will desperately want to go out a winner.

 

[kinghippo]

A big part of our successful run last year occured when Wallace was injured and we rotated between Mitch Rein and Katoa. Katoa's service from dummy half is sublime and he seems to really get our forwards going forward. We saw some of that again yesterday when Katoa came on. He also seems to have added a short kicking game to his bag of tricks.

Wallace looked good in the first few games of the year, but I suspect he is already starting to carry injuries - it is defending in the middle (and his age) that is wearing him down. His face after every game in the press conference is always bruised and battered.

I think the difficultly Hook faces is that Wallace is the captain of the side, and one of our most experienced players. He is also clearly respected by the rest of the team. We take him out of the side and we have even less experience and no clear senior leader on the field other than Maloney.

Griffin has put himself in a bad position with a lack of forward planning.
Wallace plays hard but we all know he won’t see out the season playing 80, and probably won’t play next year.
I was excited when we named Egan, thinking we were looking to the future but it turns out it was just a gimmick giving all the reserve grade 10 minutes each.

 

[GongPanther]

For a team that's shit, we managed to score the same number of tries. The forwards tried hard, but our backline really looked clunky today. With CHN and Whare we must have the two slowest centres in the competition. Whare has lost a few metres of pace and really does look pedestrian. Somebody said CHN isn't agile enough, he is plenty agile enough, but you still need the raw speed to chase somebody and he was burnt for pace.

I thought Peachey was ok at 6 but the question is whether we would be better with him at centre and Luai at six? It gives us a bit more pace and then we have another gun backrower on the bench.

To lose by a penalty kick at Shark Park, with as many players out as we had was a good outcome. We have lost two games and both of them by a small margin.

Also these players who we have brought up from reserve grade are punching above their weight. With the loss of Sauce,it seems that it is too much for the side to cope with. I also think the coaching went away from a conventional game plan. I had no idea what the hell was going on positional wise after those first two tries.

Silver lining to this loss is the minimal damage on the ladder. Come Friday night,all this loss will be hopefully a distant memory.

 

[Pomoz]

A big part of our successful run last year occured when Wallace was injured and we rotated between Mitch Rein and Katoa. Katoa's service from dummy half is sublime and he seems to really get our forwards going forward. We saw some of that again yesterday when Katoa came on. He also seems to have added a short kicking game to his bag of tricks.

Wallace looked good in the first few games of the year, but I suspect he is already starting to carry injuries - it is defending in the middle (and his age) that is wearing him down. His face after every game in the press conference is always bruised and battered.

I think the difficultly Hook faces is that Wallace is the captain of the side, and one of our most experienced players. He is also clearly respected by the rest of the team. We take him out of the side and we have even less experience and no clear senior leader on the field other than Maloney.

He also is a demon tackler. He really clogs up the middle and is one of our best defenders. His problem is in attack, he rarely runs and it means the markers can shoot out after our receiving player. Katoa makes the markers stay tight and gives runners just a bit more space.

You can see though, the same with most players in their mid 30's, first grade starts to take a toll on the body. He will be busted by the end of the season and is already showing signs of wear and tear.

The injured Sharks headline also gave me the sh*ts. Mansour, Blake, Cleary, May that's half a backline and DWZ was playing his first game back after a lengthy lay off as well (thought he went OK until he run out of gas). Wallace couldn't finish the game, same as Lewis. The only difference was we had multiple youngsters throughout the team and didn't go on about how brave we are and how tough we are to cope with the injuries. They had Dugan, Brailey, Moylan and Townsend as their spine. Plenty of experience in the key positions, their "injured brave Sharks" headline is just crap.

 

[OldPanther]

He also is a demon tackler. He really clogs up the middle and is one of our best defenders. His problem is in attack, he rarely runs and it means the markers can shoot out after our receiving player. Katoa makes the markers stay tight and gives runners just a bit more space.

You can see though, the same with most players in their mid 30's, first grade starts to take a toll on the body. He will be busted by the end of the season and is already showing signs of wear and tear.

The injured Sharks headline also gave me the sh*ts. Mansour, Blake, Cleary, May that's half a backline and DWZ was playing his first game back after a lengthy lay off as well (thought he went OK until he run out of gas). Wallace couldn't finish the game, same as Lewis. The only difference was we had multiple youngsters throughout the team and didn't go on about how brave we are and how tough we are to cope with the injuries. They had Dugan, Brailey, Moylan and Townsend as their spine. Plenty of experience in the key positions, their "injured brave Sharks" headline is just crap.

It's really sad to think about Wallace like this but father time gets us all. I have a permanently busted foot and I also wear a knee brace at work. I'll welcome him to the club with open arms as the legend he is.

 

[tripster]

He also is a demon tackler. He really clogs up the middle and is one of our best defenders. His problem is in attack, he rarely runs and it means the markers can shoot out after our receiving player. Katoa makes the markers stay tight and gives runners just a bit more space.

You can see though, the same with most players in their mid 30's, first grade starts to take a toll on the body. He will be busted by the end of the season and is already showing signs of wear and tear.

The injured Sharks headline also gave me the sh*ts. Mansour, Blake, Cleary, May that's half a backline and DWZ was playing his first game back after a lengthy lay off as well (thought he went OK until he run out of gas). Wallace couldn't finish the game, same as Lewis. The only difference was we had multiple youngsters throughout the team and didn't go on about how brave we are and how tough we are to cope with the injuries. They had Dugan, Brailey, Moylan and Townsend as their spine. Plenty of experience in the key positions, their "injured brave Sharks" headline is just crap.

Completely agree. I guess it is the recovery time for Wallace more than anything. As someone now in his mid 30's himself, you just don't bounce back as quickly as you did in your 20s (and I don't even play NRL!).

Possibly also the fact that switching to hooker came late in his career.

He has spent the rest of his career defending at half, and perhaps, if not for his age and the speed he lost after (2?) knee reconstructions - he'd probably have a choice about it and would still be playing as a half (perhaps not now we have Cleary, but possibly in another team). The fact is he has switched to hooker to prolong his career - not out of choice.

He also doesn't have 10 years of experience in the position like specialists hookers do. There are plenty of things that specialist hookers at the same age and stage have mastered that Wallace doesn't do very well.

He is basically a burned out former good halfback playing in the middle because he is no longer good enough to play half back in first grade but is a good defender and one of the most experienced guys in our team (I mean that in a nice way, I do like the guy and I'd never question his commitment to the club or his role).

 

[superpanther]

He also is a demon tackler. He really clogs up the middle and is one of our best defenders. His problem is in attack, he rarely runs and it means the markers can shoot out after our receiving player. Katoa makes the markers stay tight and gives runners just a bit more space.

You can see though, the same with most players in their mid 30's, first grade starts to take a toll on the body. He will be busted by the end of the season and is already showing signs of wear and tear.

The injured Sharks headline also gave me the sh*ts. Mansour, Blake, Cleary, May that's half a backline and DWZ was playing his first game back after a lengthy lay off as well (thought he went OK until he run out of gas). Wallace couldn't finish the game, same as Lewis. The only difference was we had multiple youngsters throughout the team and didn't go on about how brave we are and how tough we are to cope with the injuries. They had Dugan, Brailey, Moylan and Townsend as their spine. Plenty of experience in the key positions, their "injured brave Sharks" headline is just crap.

Yeah that annoyed me too. Hard done sharks!!! hate them with a passion bunch of drug cheats

 

[TheFrog]

Merrin would of got the same. The senior guys were shocking. I wouldn't of given anyone over a 6. The Brightside is it was 4 tries all after we dished up that.

Maloney should of known you can't try to score around them. Why spread it just go up the middle

We could have just hit it up the middle and took the two when on offer, which was pretty frequently. What messed that up was that the Sharks were able to score soft tries.