Rugby Australia to target top NRL talent - Lomax case settled

[taste2taste]

Good luck to Crichton. He has signed a one year deal with an option of a second year. He will most likely play in a home world cup, where the Wannabes will be knocked out in the QF's. The Wannabes are 7th in the world, just ahead of Fiji and Scotland.

In 2028, RA won't have the lure of a home world cup. The r360 circus could kick off, while the NRL begins the next tv deal.

I would be surprised if Crichton takes up a second year at RA. He will be 35 at the next RWC.

There is zero chance Crichton takes up the 2nd year option, its only there as a safety net. He'll go and earn good coin in France, Japan or R360

Crichton was a rugby kid through and through but spent his prime years in league.

Good luck to him, hope he gets to scratch that itch.

 

[Kurt Angle]

rugby has numerous competitions of value.

That phrase doesn't mean what you think it means

Union has zero competitions of value

 

[taste2taste]

Why would I disappear?

TV deal could go up a bit with the new time slot (they might even dangle some more of that “contra” stuff to impress you all) but there’s two more teams to fund.

Simple facts are the macro tailwinds globally have gone the other way on global broadcast rights. You won’t get that on Gemini (like honestly lads) and you certainly won’t get it from the townie media that cover the NRL, but it’s happening. The media org that the Bookie thinks will pay mega bucks for a Super League/NRL rights combo is losing over 1 billion a year (that’s in real currency, not Aussie fun money) and is cutting rights left right and centre but the message hasn’t got through yet. It’s particularly funny given how they are looking to do it with the AFL too but we aren’t dealing with serious scrutiny when it comes to this stuff and you lot.

Absolute drivel written by a pysdo intellectual

 

[taste2taste]

Maybe just Angus Crichton.

Well done sir, correctly picked way back on page 1.

 

[Kurt Angle]

That’s $1.1bn AUD.

For Six Weeks of one tournament.

That's not the cycle you dope, the cycle is 4 years. It just happens to be 6 weeks of playing and a further 202 weeks of preparation for the next one

It'd be akin to saying Origin has economic value of $1.1 billion for 240 minutes of playing time

 

[Wb1234]

https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/a-shower-is-not-a-tsunami-vlandys-dismisses-rugby-union-player-poaching-threat/news-story/52b1a5177b98c68987a2b44698e966a8?amp

ARL Commission boss Peter V’landys has rubbished suggestions the NRL is facing a big-name player exodus to rugby union following the defection of Roosters star Angus Crichton.

With the NRL inching closer to its gala season launch in Las Vegas, V’landys dismissed concerns of a rugby league talent drain as the Wallabies ramp-up their assault on next year’s rugby World Cup in Australia.

Wallabies star and former Roosters young gun Joseph-Aukuso Suaalii put the NRL on notice when he warned the impending switch of Crichton at season’s end could convince more big-name stars to quit rugby league.

Crichton’s Roosters colleague Mark Nawaqanitawase will return to rugby later this year, while controversial Eels star Zac Lomax and Broncos superstar Payne Haas were targeted by R360 in recent months.
In November 2024, former Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan told Code Sports he was contacted by a third-party claiming up to six NRL stars, including Panthers champion Nathan Cleary, were keen to explore a code switch.

Suaalii pointed to the previous big-name defections of Israel Folau, Karmichael Hunt, Wendell Sailor and Lote Tuqiri, but V’landys says the NRL has never been more attractive in his quest to make rugby league a $1 billion sport.

“I’m not worried at all. A shower is not a tsunami,” V’landys said of any Rugby Australia poaching threat.

“Unfortunately, rugby union keeps using rugby league to generate publicity, but that’s all it is.

“I’m not concerned. Our players and clubs have gone to another level.

“Vegas has been a massive factor (in the ratings surge). Starting the season in Vegas gives us the kickstart we have never had before.

“The game is entertainment plus now with the speed of the game, the physicality and players have gone to another level because of the speed of the game.

“We have taken the ball-in-play to 60 minutes and rugby union has 30 minutes of action.

“Why would our players want to go to a sport where they have less game time?”

Haas is tipped to sign a one-year extension with the Broncos, igniting suspicions the NSW Origin enforcer could be buying time with a view to potentially defecting to R360 if the rebel rugby competition becomes operational in 2028.
Two years ago, former RA chair McLennan held preliminary talks with the Haas camp at a time when French rugby clubs tabled deals rumoured to be worth up to $2 million for the Broncos champion.
Former Queensland Origin star Mat Rogers, who defected to rugby for the 2002 World Cup and amassed 45 Tests for the Wallabies, backed V’landys’ stance.
“I think it’s unlikely there will be an exodus,” he said.

“They (Rugby Australia) didn’t pay exorbitant money for Angus.
“He could have made more money in league if he stayed, but he is going for the right reasons to play in a home World Cup and that was the same for me going across.”
Rogers can see both organisations smartening up.

“Rugby are locking up their best players - Max Jorgensen has signed a five-year deal - and the NRL will be making sure they keep their best talent,” he said.
“Rugby isn’t for everyone. It’s horses for courses.

“The reality of it is there is a World Cup next year and Angus Crichton has got significant experience as a young man playing rugby union, so he is halfway there.

“I wouldn’t expect anyone in the NRL, who doesn’t have rugby union experience, leaving and playing any significant role in the Wallabies squad for a World Cup next year.

“It’s not as easy as just signing a contract and you become a Wallaby and you will kill it in rugby

“When you are coming up against South Africa, New Zealand and Ireland, they couldn’t give a rats if you have played NRL or not ... they will just bash you.”

With the next tv deal he’s right the nrl will be turning over one billion pa

And mat rogers as usual is being a tosser. No wonder why the titans and tinos manager are saying how bad he is

 

[BODISGOD]

Funnily enough, that's why PVL made it a thing to be investing into hotels etc to add extra revenue streams, from you guessed it, profit the game is making.

Again the cringe puffing out of the chest of things others were doing 30 years ago. Things have improved for sure, but from an incredibly low base.

 

[BODISGOD]

Honestly, Rugby Union would be better off packaging domestic footy as a single package as well. Super Rugby and Super League are very much in the same boat.

Premier Sports in the U.K. and Ireland are on a mission to package it all up. I am dubious.

The reality of historic rights packages though is more networks has generated more tv income. This was learned in the 2000s by the Premier League who were fearful when the EU said they couldn’t sell to one broadcaster, but quickly found out they could make more money from 2 or 3 as they could sell it differently and fans want it all. Now this may change again, but that’s been the way now for a long period.

For the consumer isn’t good, of course.

 

[mccarthyj367]

There is zero chance Crichton takes up the 2nd year option, its only there as a safety net. He'll go and earn good coin in France, Japan or R360

Crichton was a rugby kid through and through but spent his prime years in league.

Good luck to him, hope he gets to scratch that itch.

I actually think he might be back at the Roosters after 2027. He will be only be 31 and the CBA will have kicked in via the new TV deal. If the cap is $15-16m against and we have 20 teams there are plenty who would be willing to pay $300k+ over his current union deal of $600k

He's also not a guarantee to make the Wallabies side and may get bogged down with the game and simply be a bench player. For every Lote Tiqiri there is a Benji Marshall.

 

[BODISGOD]

If anyone would know about that it would be the bloke who comes here for his daily coke rant.

You watch 1 podcast on TV rights and you're an expert

Nope. I try to stay informed about it generally. I gave you two videos from separate platforms discussing what is going on in Europe with Sky and DAZN. There is commentary around this from those who want to informed, the trick is not to get your news from generic media who slobber over stuff like $1bn and the likes.

 

[BODISGOD]

Who to believe? Google or a random on the internet

There is no difference between a local sponsor signing a check to support a club and getting inflated tv rights fees from media bodies using it as a loss leader or whatever.

On no planet is DAZN making $2bn AUD losses a year sustainable, hence the cuts. I’m just passing this information on.

 

[BODISGOD]

That phrase doesn't mean what you think it means

Union has zero competitions of value

Oh what a zinger from the orchestrated athletics fan! Imagine an adult making that their username.

 

[BODISGOD]

Absolute drivel written by a pysdo intellectual

Here’s some more for you.

NBCUniversal's $27 billion NBA rights deal is projected to incur annual losses between $500 million and $1.4 billion initially

More losses on tv sports contracts. But it will go on forever and ever and the values will only go up!

 

[BODISGOD]

That's not the cycle you dope, the cycle is 4 years. It just happens to be 6 weeks of playing and a further 202 weeks of preparation for the next one

It'd be akin to saying Origin has economic value of $1.1 billion for 240 minutes of playing timeView attachment 109283

How many gormless simpletons are there here?

You are comparing speculative host city valuations of events to actual revenues sports bodies get?

Let’s get back to actual revenue for the sports bodies, let’s not forget the $1bn AUD brag includes State of Origin.

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

How many gormless simpletons are there here?

You are comparing speculative host city valuations of events to actual revenues sports bodies get?

Let’s get back to actual revenue for the sports bodies, let’s not forget the $1bn AUD brag includes State of Origin.

You`re funny, and so angry and all about what. Thrashing about and calling people names. Wow.

 

[Kurt Angle]

How many gormless simpletons are there here?

You are comparing speculative host city valuations of events to actual revenues sports bodies get?

Let’s get back to actual revenue for the sports bodies, let’s not forget the $1bn AUD brag includes State of Origin.

No, I'm comparing the frequency revenue is obtained

Why does the IRB host 6 world cups per year instead of hosting their zero value loss leaders like Super Rugby or PREM Rugby

The $billion cited their isn't all ARLC revenues you numpty, I suggest you read it again. If you still. Have difficulty comprehending it, get a RL fan to explain it to you

 

[Perth Red]

With the next tv deal he’s right the nrl will be turning over one billion pa

And mat rogers as usual is being a tosser. No wonder why the titans and tinos manager are saying how bad he is

tv deal would have to go up $200 mill‘Ish cash a year for that to happen. 2024 revenue $744mill.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Oh what a zinger from the orchestrated athletics fan! Imagine an adult making that their username.

Says the wanker having a mans name as a God, you are a f**king spastic wanker of the highest level.

 

[gerg]

Here’s some more for you.

NBCUniversal's $27 billion NBA rights deal is projected to incur annual losses between $500 million and $1.4 billion initially

More losses on tv sports contracts. But it will go on forever and ever and the values will only go up!

I don't think Rugby union, AFL or NBA TV rights are comparable to the NRL right now. People are switching off the NBA in droves because they're sick of Lebron's drama and ridiculous rule interpretations and referees/NBA rigging games. Rugby union is pretty dull to watch, even the diehard kiwis are switching off, or not attending games in the numbers they used to ... because the product is shit. AFL has dropped a little but the way their broadcast rights are managed is not comparable either. They televise games into regional networks so fans can see 'their' team on FTA. It's clever but then PayTV isn't as attractive or important to their fans as it could be. I can't speak for soccer as I don't remotely know anything about it.

You'd have to have your head buried in the sand and/or just be salty about the NRL, to not realise that the NRL is going pretty damn well at the moment. More people watching - either attending or watching the TV. The numbers back it up. Exactly the opposite of those other codes / comps you mention.

 

[taste2taste]

How many gormless simpletons are there here?

You are comparing speculative host city valuations of events to actual revenues sports bodies get?

Let’s get back to actual revenue for the sports bodies, let’s not forget the $1bn AUD brag includes State of Origin.

In summary,

You're an expert on the future of TV broadcast rights, French Rugby Union revenue streams, Pokies profits distribution, the NRL's investments in commercial, hospitality and hotel assets, teams jersey sponsorships ... and you claim to be more knowledgeable than Google AI.

You'll fit in perfectly on these boards