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t-ba said:
You would be mostly correct. The Cheetahs and the...whatever the Port Elizabeth side were calling themselves actually played in the Celtic League after getting booted from Super Rugby until Covid kicked in.

My contention with this was the clearly wrong point that South Africa leaving was what killed Super Rugby. In Australia at least, that shit was long dead beforehand.
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South African teams are happy post-divorce but has Super Rugby lost its bite? | Super Rugby Pacific | The Guardian

The flavour of the competition will never be the same and it remains to be seen if Australia and New Zealand teams can fill the gap
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Why NZ are starting to miss South Africa's franchises

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Super Rugby Popularity is Declining and Rumours of a South African Exit Abound

There have been many articles published recently trying to define the reason behind the decline in Super Rugby popularity. Especially if you happen to support an Australian or South African team.
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Wb1234 said:

South African teams are happy post-divorce but has Super Rugby lost its bite? | Super Rugby Pacific | The Guardian

The flavour of the competition will never be the same and it remains to be seen if Australia and New Zealand teams can fill the gap
amp.theguardian.com amp.theguardian.com


Why NZ are starting to miss South Africa's franchises

amp.rugby365.com amp.rugby365.com

lastwordonsports.com

Super Rugby Popularity is Declining and Rumours of a South African Exit Abound

There have been many articles published recently trying to define the reason behind the decline in Super Rugby popularity. Especially if you happen to support an Australian or South African team.
lastwordonsports.com lastwordonsports.com
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The one statistic in either of those opinion pieces is literally about divorce in the UK mate. Neither of these articles are talking about comp viability just playing standards.

Super Rugby was f**king doa in 2019. I just don't get what's so hard to accept about that basic fact.
 
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t-ba said:
The one statistic in either of those opinion pieces is literally about divorce in the UK mate. Neither of these articles are talking about comp viability just playing standards.

Super Rugby was f**king doa in 2019. I just don't get what's so hard to accept about that basic fact.
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Dieing is the best argument you can make

even now in Australia it’s not fully dead yet they literally just paid 1.6 millon for suaali and can pull out private sponsors whenever they want

anyway the point I was trying to make is super rugby was a massive success and if they stuck to their winning formula wouldn’t have seen the decline that’s happened

their implosion is solely due to their own mistakes and nothing rugby league has done (which is a shame)
 
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Over-expansion largely screwed it. It had teams in two hemispheres in 5-6 time zones spread right round the world. So costs were high, travel was onerous and live games were often at times that weren’t attractive to much of the audience.

the Saffers realised that it was actually more viable to play against Europeans sides because the time zones work better (SA is the same time zone as continental Europe), Japan prefer their own domestic league.
 
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Wb1234 said:
Dieing is the best argument you can make

even now in Australia it’s not fully dead yet they literally just paid 1.6 millon for suaali and can pull out private sponsors whenever they want

anyway the point I was trying to make is super rugby was a massive success and if they stuck to their winning formula wouldn’t have seen the decline that’s happened

their implosion is solely due to their own mistakes and nothing rugby league has done (which is a shame)
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Mate, you said this

kicking out South Africa killed the comp
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Like seriously. So it's not dead or is it dead?

My point is that the comp was f**ked in 2019 and South Africa leaving wasn't what killed it.
 
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SpaceMonkey said:
Over-expansion largely screwed it. It had teams in two hemispheres in 5-6 time zones spread right round the world. So costs were high, travel was onerous and live games were often at times that weren’t attractive to much of the audience.
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Japan and Argentina were fairly sucesful though

the issue was Australia. With Three teams they were competitive with nz and sa
t-ba said:
Mate, you said this



Like seriously. So it's not dead or is it dead?
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union isn’t dead no

that’s just wishful thinking

what’s your point here ?
 
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Wb1234 said:
Japan and Argentina were fairly sucesful though
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The Sunwolves were not successful. They couldn't compete with Top League for players, failed to meet the financial conditions put upon them and in 2019 were informed they were getting the chop in 2021.

Wb1234 said:
the issue was Australia. With Three teams they were competitive with nz and sa
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Sure why not, but not the issue I had with your post.

Wb1234 said:
union isn’t dead no

that’s just wishful thinking

what’s your point here ?
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Where did I say Union was dead dude?

You said South Africa Leaving killed Super Rugby. I disagreed. And I'll maintain it was f**ked and pretty much dead (in Oz atleast) before that happened.
 
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t-ba said:
The Sunwolves were not successful. They couldn't compete with Top League for players, failed to meet the financial conditions put upon them and in 2019 were informed they were getting the chop in 2021.



Sure why not, but not the issue I had with your post.



Where did I say Union was dead dude?

You said South Africa Leaving killed Super Rugby. I disagreed. And I'll maintain it was f**ked and pretty much dead (in Oz atleast) before that happened.
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Japan started winning games and had no share of The tv money

you can see the impact the super rugby sides had on the national teams for Japan and Argentina

I’ve shown links where they mention the impact of sa being kicked from super rugby if you want to ignore them that’s on you

australia and nz wanted a trans Tasman competiton due to the poor time slots and travel time for sa

it was a massive gamble and it failed. Meanwhile the sa super rugby sides have done well in the northern hemisphere comp

nz are going to struggle going forward with the week to week games vs the springboks
 
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Super Rugby has been a floundering lump in Australia for years, especially in NSW. Crowds were not great and no one wanted to spend a cent broadcasting it.
The quality was rubbish. Highly paid players didn't understand simple concepts of running lines or even being behind the guy who might pass you the ball. It was getting populated full of over paid egotists without any real talent. They brough back useless old players who hadn't actually passed the ball since 1990 but had double barrelled names so it was OK.
A lot of this stems from Eddie Jones and his mates changing the way Australian RU was supposed to be played and effectively ruining RU in Australia. Then the dumb asses went and employed him a second time
 
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Some deliciously salty comments in there from the usual Audi driving Pimms quaffers.
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The comment that always gets me is they genuinely believe NRL players can't make it in rugby...thier game is so much more advanced that a league player would be totally out of thier depth.

Cooper Vuna and Curtis Rona say hold my beer :D
 
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“I love the concept of an old boys’ day at Allianz Stadium ... three back-to-back GPS [Great Public Schools] games at Allianz Stadium from 11am to 5pm, and you just make it a festival,” Waugh said.

The “save rugby” plan involves a “festival” of Riverview, King’s and Joeys? Phil, that’s not a plan, that’s a Betoota Advocate headline.


 
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Wb1234 said:
“I love the concept of an old boys’ day at Allianz Stadium ... three back-to-back GPS [Great Public Schools] games at Allianz Stadium from 11am to 5pm, and you just make it a festival,” Waugh said.

The “save rugby” plan involves a “festival” of Riverview, King’s and Joeys? Phil, that’s not a plan, that’s a Betoota Advocate headline.


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I guess the reason so many RL players go from GPS schools back to rugby league is that once they have played in the first XV for Joeys/Kings/Riverview they have achieved the pinnacle of rugby union achievement in Australia
 
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