That's fine, everyone has their own interests. But it is expressly the centrepiece of Sky's summer lineup of Sport in the UK and Ireland.
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That's fine, everyone has their own interests. But it is expressly the centrepiece of Sky's summer lineup of Sport in the UK and Ireland.
And it’s barely raised a sweat here outside the rah rahs.
Again that might be the case, doesn't invalidate the point.
Mate in the days rugby kind of mattered and we used to beat New Zealand the Lions were a thing when they toured. They might make some money for Australian Rugby but the administration here will blow it as they always do as it’s a sugar hit and nothing more. The game is in awful shape here and getting worse.
Okay you can construct different narratives but I am sticking to what I replied to. The Lions is not going anywhere or getting shortened and is going to make more money this year than before.
Woo hoo. And my narrative is that rugby is truly fecked in this country. Enjoy the cash.
ridiculous take.
Source please that Rugby Australia gets 45% of the profit from the Dublin match. My understanding was different but happy to be proven otherwise
No rough estimate is RA get 55% of the tour profits. This was all from an interview with the Lions CEO last month. In actual fact the Lions used to get just 15% of tour proceeds but they now cross sell.
It gets mentioned on a couple of Sky sports adverts, that are shown on Sky - so only people who already subscribe to Sky are getting those Ads. The truth is, it’s getting pretty much zero traction from general public, or even the general sporting community,
Let me know when you get a source
Centrepiece is a massive exaggeration
It's filler for Sky Sports (which has just 6 million subscribers) with the F1, SuperLeague and England-India cricket test series before the football juggernaut kicks off again in August.RA have sold more tickets and at higher prices than they did 12 years ago. Reading comments from Waugh the profits will be used to pay down their debt facility loan. RA has currently used 55m of the 85m loan.
Again, it is the centrepiece of their late June to early August with football on a break. Sky have explicitly said this - it's the only rugby property they value that way btw (they also still pay for the summer tours), if you want to take that angle. They will be launching the Lions Channel shortly and have turned their core production facilities over for it.
And just like 12 years ago on here, I predict we'll be having the same conversation in 12 years here.
No no dear lad, read again, they get a higher share. And it is of the entire pie. So Australia are benefiting from the 30,000 tour packages sold (for example) which started in Dublin on Friday. They previously only would have benefited from ones they attached themselves to. The entire commercials of it has been bundled in a JV, so Australia benefited from the Friday night game.
France paid too much money for the tournament in order to win a very competitive bid process - they bunged it. World Rugby themselves made $1.2bn AUD from it.
is that 100 m before or after costs ?
They're getting a flat fee of $100m AUD and World Rugby are running the whole thing (tickets etc.) and making all the profits from what I understand. Not sure what costs there would be beyond the usual costs of attending a world cup but cheaper you'd assume given it's at home - all tournament costs would go into the JV. Tournament hosting fee is covered by Governments / cities who benefit from the tourists so nothing to do with Rugby Australia.
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RA and the others involved in the new world championships,run in between world cups, will make big profits. I believe the Saudis are paying about 800m to host the final in 2028 and 3032 ? Crazy money. Rugby’s new sugar daddyThey're getting a flat fee of $100m AUD and World Rugby are running the whole thing (tickets etc.) and making all the profits from what I understand. Not sure what costs there would be beyond the usual costs of attending a world cup but cheaper you'd assume given it's at home - all tournament costs would go into the JV. Tournament hosting fee is covered by Governments / cities who benefit from the tourists so nothing to do with Rugby Australia.
Whilst you mentioned France who made a balls of it, the RFU netted out with about $150m AUD from 2015 (about $30m of that was Twickenham profits though so not like for like so call it $120m net). My understanding is one thing the RFU did rally well which the French made a balls of was managing Tours - the independent tour operators were sending people over without the French getting much of a cut. If I had to guess further, World Rugby know they can profit from this themselves rather than Rugby Australia. World Rugby are located just up the road from there the Lions (and that's where the Lions and by extension Rugby Australia are making a packet from as well) are in Dublin & there's big cross over.
Given its 12 years on, it feels right that an overall $120m AUD would go up a fair chunk from organising the tickets / tours so probably a realistic number that Rugby Australia are taking less ($100m AUD) in order to guarantee themselves the money given the issues they've had. It's also includes the 2029 Women's World Cup.
See below with World Rugby starting the ticket thing, Rugby Australia would have done it themselves before.
World Rugby appoints Ticketmaster as Official Ticketing Service Provider for Rugby World Cups 2027 and 2029 in Australia | World Rugby
World Rugby has announced the selection of Ticketmaster as the Official Ticketing Service Provider for Men's Rugby World Cup 2027 and Women's Rugby World Cup 2029, both to be hosted in Australia.
