Rugby League's 100 Greatest Players Announced

[lockyno1]

ANDREW ETTINGSHAUSEN
328 first grade games for the one club over 18 seasons
27 games for NSW (seven tries), as well as the NSW Tri Series in 1997
25 Tests for Australia, scoring 14 tries (and four Super League Tests)
ET also holds the try scoring record for the club (165) and most tries in a match - five (twice). He made his first grade debut while at high school.

http://www.sharks.com.au/index.php?id=411

Cannot believe people dispute this choice. Was an automatic selection for NSW and Australia for many years.

I always thought the Meninga ET down the right side combo was freakin lethal for Aus.

Ahead of Steve Renouf? I think not, Renouf excelled at the highest stage..and won premierships, and singlehandly destroyed Cronnull in the SL Final!

 

[LeagueXIII]

btw Puig Aibert is a French RL Legend, anyone know a few others

There have been many great French players. In the 80's Treize Magazine announced their immortals.

Other great French players include Gilbert Benausse, Jacques Merquey, Max Rousie, Jean Galia, Jean Dop, Gaston Calixte, Elie Brousse, Edouard Ponsinet, Jean Barthe, Jo Crespo, Vincent Cantoni, Raymond Contrastin and many others.

Puig Aubert may have been a French legend, but it was more to do with his antics as opposed to skill.

He couldn't tackle a rampaging 6 year old. He used to smoke on the field, Jason Moodie is Puig Aubuert reincarnated.

I think you strongly underestimate Puig Aubert's ability. He is the only French RL (rugby union has only had one also) player to have won L'Equipe magazine's champion of the year (award running since 1946). Surely he didn't achieve this because he smoked and couldn't tackle? I dare say he had ability, and quite alot.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champion_des_champions_de_L'Équipe

 

[gregstar]

i'm surprised craig young missed out.

& michael o'connor.

 

[Noa]

Upon reading the list properly I take back my view that ET should have been the one to miss out so Tallis gets in.

Madunit' listed 3 of the 4 who should go buy emselves a lottery ticket. ET' alot worthier then any of them.

I also didnt see that Brian Bevan was included (he's also in the English HOF) so on that basis Parra-eel I guess it was only inclusive of Austrlian born players regardless of where they played.

I think the decision to give automatic inclusion of the 8-10 players from each decade pre-WW2 gave them no room to put maybe some more deserving players in like Tallis as they got to the most recent years.

 

[gregstar]

Kerry Boustead, John Sattler, Steve Mortimer and Terry Lamb....undeserving.

Jack Beaton and Les Cubitt, both played f**k all games. Beaton only played 30 or 40 odd from memory.

Cubitt had a great tour of New Zealand, scoring 19 tries in 5 games or something ridiculous like that, other than that he wasn't that flash.

i don't see why turvey is undeserving - obviously your opinion, but i thought he was the best running halfback of his era - easily. wonderful player.

 

[madunit]

I think you strongly underestimate Puig Aubert's ability. He is the only French RL (rugby union has only had one also) player to have won L'Equipe magazine's champion of the year (award running since 1946). Surely he didn't achieve this because he smoked and couldn't tackle? I dare say he had ability, and quite alot.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champion_des_champions_de_L%27%C3%89quipe

Can you name for me any French sportsmen or women/athletes from that era who could have provided him with any decent competition?

 

[madunit]

i don't see why turvey is undeserving - obviously your opinion, but i thought he was the best running halfback of his era - easily. wonderful player.

he was not better than Sterling.

 

[madunit]

Brian Bevans inclusion is odd, given he played 2 games here. And I do believe he became an English citizen, thus no longer Australian.

 

[Noa]

Can you name for me any French sportsmen or women/athletes from that era who could have provided him with any decent competition?

I'm pretty sure Raymond Kopa and Just Fontaine would be from the same era. They probably had a decent cyclist or two as well.

From what Ive read of him he seemed to be in a similar vein to Clive Churchill i.e. brilliant attacking fullbacks at a time when the fullback role was by nature alot more conservative.

 

[LeagueXIII]

Can you name for me any French sportsmen or women/athletes from that era who could have provided him with any decent competition?

Not without a bit of research, but I would imagine people who won it around the same time would have been competitive. RL at the time was a big sport in France and the 51 team bought great pride to the French after the war.

 

[madunit]

I'm not saying he wasn't a good player, I'm merely pointing out that he wasn't as great as some uneducated people may well believe.

 

[gregstar]

he was not better than Sterling.

i rate them as equal. both were different styles of halfback. both were as successful as eachother.

 

[mightybears]

Ahead of Steve Renouf? I think not, Renouf excelled at the highest stage..and won premierships, and singlehandly destroyed Cronulla in the SL Final!

As an NRL player-Steve was a great player in a great team, but he did nothing at origin level and the same can't be said for Ettingshausen. He was a great played for a very long period of time.

 

[madunit]

i rate them as equal. both were different styles of halfback. both were as successful as eachother.

So you believe they were equal however Mortimer was the dominant halfback in his era?

I doubt you will find anyone who will agree the notion thatMortimer was better than Sterling. I'm not saying Mortimer wasn't a good player, he was, but only for a short while compared to Sterlo, who was far more consistent for a longer period of time.

Parra should have picked up a spoon in 1990, but Sterlo alone almost got them into the finals.

 

[_Johnsy]

IMO Sterling was a better player than Turvey. If sterlo say scored 95, turvey would be 90 at best. Better long kicking game, better passing game. He always seemed to have more time than Turvey

 

[DeeGan]

No room for Ricky Stuart in a Top 100 list - a f**king joke.

The end.

 

[mongoose]

Stuart is unlucky. At his peak (93-94) he was as good as any halfback the game has produced with the exception of maybe Johns. I still say if the 40-20 rule was around in his time he would be unstoppable.

 

[gregstar]

So you believe they were equal however Mortimer was the dominant halfback in his era?

:lol: selective reading mate - i said turvey was the best running halfback of his era.

I doubt you will find anyone who will agree the notion thatMortimer was better than Sterling. I'm not saying Mortimer wasn't a good player, he was, but only for a short while compared to Sterlo, who was far more consistent for a longer period of time.

maybe not, but i'd hardly have thought that whilst in people's opinion sterling might be better, that mortimer wouldn't be amongst the best 100 ever produced. furthermore, he was a better leader than sterling imo.

Parra should have picked up a spoon in 1990, but Sterlo alone almost got them into the finals.

the spoon? you obviously can't remember the gun sides of 1990 - wests, saints, norths & gold coast! :lol: & souths played like absolute downies.

parra were easily still better than that lot.

 

[DeeGan]

Stuart is unlucky. At his peak (93-94) he was as good as any halfback the game has produced with the exception of maybe Johns. I still say if the 40-20 rule was around in his time he would be unstoppable.

Agreed, especially with your last point re: the 40/20 rule - Stuart would've fully utilised it with full effect - he was the best kicker in general play bar none.

I did have the arcticle (I do have it somewhere) where Warren Ryan came out in the papers and said Ricky Stuart was the best player he had ever seen. I think it was somewhere during the 94' season as he duelled with the "other" maestro, Allan Langer (how I long for a one-on-one duel like that again).

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Peter Sterling won the rothmans medal tiwce.

Comparing Mortimer to Sterling is like comparing Eli to Peyton.