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Rumoured and Confirmed signings and Crap IV

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Kornstar

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If we take off our blue and gold glasses for just a second and are fair with ourselves: he's probably one of the worst players to have played 200+ FG games!

Brett Finch takes the honours as worst imo. He may have busted his ass but damn he was awful!

With out a few of his serious injuries, he would have cracked 300 with Hindmarsh......

I think in 04 he was seemingly on the outer for a while but since 05 he has pretty much been in the team baring injury. McKinnon did not keep him out of the team, just out of fullback, Burt was generally on the wing in those games, he even won the fullback spot back near the end of 06 and Mckinnon relegated to the bench!

Obviously you don't like him but he has scored 110+ (a lot of those with smart thinking) tries in 240+ games of NRL, you don't normally have that kind of a record if you are crap!

All those stats and realistically he has only been in a team with decent halves for under half of his career......so he has done alright, blue and gold goggles or not!
 

DeanPay98

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Didn't he spend like a season and a half behind McKinnon?

I don't think it was quite like that. I think Burt was coming close to being first choice fullback after Hodgson got injured in 2002 and then went off the boil briefly in 2003. But then McKinnon rejoined the club in 2004 and shunted Burt back to the wing. Burt's next run at fullback was in 2007 but he then got injured. He's always been somewhere between wing and fullback but he's really only started two seasons, 2004 and 2007, as first choice fullback. He never lasted the season there.

I think what will happen is that Sio, if he is ready, will push Burt out of the wing role. But anything could happen.
 
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lol.

Burt will be picked ahead of Esi Tonga any day of the week.

If Sio needs to be accomodated he will be switched to the right.

Burt offers the ability to play a little extra ball, can effectively cover fullback if there is an injury during the game, can kick from the wing to add another attacking option, sniffs around the middle of the ruck better than anyone else in the team...

Having said that, HaHa should stay at 6, Burt in 1 and Roberts in 14, unless we want to play 4 forwards on the bench.
 

Kornstar

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lol.

Burt will be picked ahead of Esi Tonga any day of the week.

If Sio needs to be accomodated he will be switched to the right.

Burt offers the ability to play a little extra ball, can effectively cover fullback if there is an injury during the game, can kick from the wing to add another attacking option, sniffs around the middle of the ruck better than anyone else in the team...

Having said that, HaHa should stay at 6, Burt in 1 and Roberts in 14, unless we want to play 4 forwards on the bench.

Agreed
 

Eels Dude

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Burt's one of those players who just offers so much to a side that you have to fit him into your 17 somewhere. He hasn't always been that way, but since around 2007 he's taken his game to a new level.
 

parra pete

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hits up like Marcus Bai and better than that AFL player..........whats his name?..........Izzy Falou under the high ball

he's a tall rangy bloke, plays fullback as well as wing and he can kick too

I watched him alot in TYC and their game plan was to get the ball to Sio, much like it was to get the ball to Loko earlier this year

Do you mean Izzy Folau? What happened to his bro this season?
 

parra pete

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Ask Arthur Summons/Noel Kelly and the Wests side of 1963....I was at this Grand Final, played in very heavy rai and conditions.

The crowd of 69,806 who turned out for the grand final was a record[1]. From the opening whistle the 1963 decider was a gruelling affair.
Heavy rain meant that the wet SCG pitch quickly became a quagmire and players unrecognisable. At one point, St George five-eighth, Bruce Pollard was blinded by the mud such that he couldn't pass or catch the ball so he swapped places with Johnny Raper and played out the second half at lock.
Raper also set up the best movement of the match when he broke the line and found Reg Gasnier in support. Gasnier, with a Wests defender hanging off him, sent the ball to Norm Provan who in turn found Johnny King. However the Magpies defence held and no try was scored.
Saints conceded their first grand final try since 1958 when Wests centre Gil McDougall scored. As the match developed, it was clear that Wests had a game plan which involved a focus of intimidation on Gasnier. McDougall and other Magpies punched, stiff armed and kneed Gasnier at every opportunity. He was consequently subdued throughout the game.
The game was ultimately the Dragons' most controversial win in their 11-year run since the story has passed into Australian rugby league folklore that St George benefitted from dubious decisions made by referee Darcy Lawler.[2]
Lawler, the game's No.1 referee was known to enjoy a bet.
A number of Wests players and sports journalists have claimed that the '63 Grand Final was a rort and point to some questionable decisions. Just before half time, Wests had a try disallowed. At 8-3 McDougall had a chance to even the score when he won a race to the ball in goal, but Lawler ruled that he did not ground it. Later with 15 minutes to go and the score favouring Saints 5-3, Johnny King scored a controversial match winning try. Both decisions fuelled the debate about Lawler's impartiality on the day.
Newcomer Graeme Langlands passed to King who raced down his muddy wing after fending off his opposite John Mowbray. King appeared to be claimed by the cover defence of Don Parish but both players tumbled and in the slimy conditions King was not clearly held. He got up and was bowled over again but still not held and with no marker he ran towards the corner past a relaxed defence who believed he had been tackled. If ever there was an example of playing to the whistle, this was it. Johnny King scored one of the most debated tries in Australian Grand Final history.
King claims that he was told by the ref to 'play on' while Wests legend, Noel Kelly claims that King was tackled and that Wests 'were robbed'.
But for the record books, St George won their eighth consecutive Grand Final, defeating a gallant Wests team, 8-3 and destroying Wests' hopes for the third year running. It was the final time that Western Suburbs would appear in a Grand Final. Also, St George won the premiership that year in all three grades.
The match is also celebrated in Australian rugby league history as a result of John O'Gready's enduring photo of rival captains Provan and Summons in a congratulatory mud-caked embrace at game's end. The award winning photo became known as "the Gladiators" and since it was first published has been appreciated by rugby league fans as capturing an essence of the game wherein a little man can fairly compete against the bigger man, and where sporting respect and camaraderie follow epic struggle. Since 1982 a bronze replica of the Provan and Summons embrace has adorned the various incarnations of the Australian rugby league premiership trophy.[3]
St. George 8 (Tries: Evans, King. Goals: Gasnier 1.)
Western Suburbs 3 ( Tries: McDougall.)
Source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_NSWRFL_season

Gilbert McDougal centre for Wests was a very good player. He is the father of Adam McDougall. The old saying in the sixties was Gil would never score between the posts because his head wouldn't fit through...
St. George Position

Western Suburbs
Graeme Langlands FB Don Parish
Johnny King WG John Mowbray
Reg Gasnier CE Bob McGuinness
Billy Smith CE Gil McDougall
Eddie Lumsden WG Peter Dimond
Bruce Pollard FE Arthur Summons (c)
George Evans HB Don Malone
Monty Porter PR Denis Meaney
Ian Walsh HK Noel Kelly
Kevin Ryan PR Jack Gibson
Elton Rasmussen SR Kel O'Shea
Norm Provan (Ca./Co.) SR John Hayes
Johnny Raper LK Kevin Smyth
Coach Jack Fitzgerald
 
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