Rumoured/Confirmed Signings 2011/2012

[El Diablo]

He made his debut in 2008 and won NRL rookie of the year in 2009 pretty certain he got a huge contract upgrade after that.

200k a year according to this http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/idris-a-dog-and-loving-it/story-e6frexp9-1225734425624

 

[Eels Dude]

200k a year according to this http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/idris-a-dog-and-loving-it/story-e6frexp9-1225734425624

Sounds about correct then. Ryan would have been on about 300k a year meaning whoever said combined they'd freed up 500k salary cap space is spot on.

 

[hindy111]

500k give or take 50k

 

[MrT]

Sounds about correct then. Ryan would have been on about 300k a year meaning whoever said combined they'd freed up 500k salary cap space is spot on.

not when they said Ryan's contract was front loaded and he was playing for 0 cap space for this year. I think it was himself and Patten they front loaded

 

[El Diablo]

not when they said Ryan's contract was front loaded and he was playing for 0 cap space for this year. I think it was himself and Patten they front loaded

from 2008

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-close-in-on-jeff-lima/story-e6frfgfx-1111116097489

The Bulldogs have money to burn after Willie Mason left at the end of last season.

They also front-loaded the contracts of Andrew Ryan and Luke Patten to free up cash next season.

 

[Parra Pride]

Sounds about correct then. Ryan would have been on about 300k a year meaning whoever said combined they'd freed up 500k salary cap space is spot on.

Let's say they have 500k then, they apparently offereing Hopoate 400k and there is no way they would be offereing less than 250-300k a year to James Graham.

 

[MrT]

Let's say they have 500k then, they apparently offereing Hopoate 400k and there is no way they would be offereing less than 250-300k a year to James Graham.

and where did the dollars come from for the upgrades to


Morris $330k
Ennis $350k

 

[Casper The Ghost]

and where did the dollars come from for the upgrades to


Morris $330k
Ennis $350k

 

[Eels Dude]

not when they said Ryan's contract was front loaded and he was playing for 0 cap space for this year. I think it was himself and Patten they front loaded

That was back in 2008... they would have frontloaded his 2009 payment into 2008 but they didn't frontload his entire new 3 year contract into 2008.

 

[Eels Dude]

Let's say they have 500k then, they apparently offereing Hopoate 400k and there is no way they would be offereing less than 250-300k a year to James Graham.

Read the article again. It says the Dogs are offering 750k over 3 years for Hopoate which is 250k a season not 400k. They also have other off contract players like Stagg and Turner who they may or may not choose to re-sign.

 

[Parra Pride]

 

[hindy111]

Why would you offer hopate 400K when they could of keot Idirs for that???
Idirs is a way better player at this stage of there career-A jnr and way more marketable

 

[The Colonel]

That was back in 2008... they would have frontloaded his 2009 payment into 2008 but they didn't frontload his entire new 3 year contract into 2008.

They restructured his cap so that in 2008, because of SBW and others all leaving that the gross payment of his and Patten's contracts were made in 2008. For instance - if his contract was 1 million over three years it was restuctured so that his contract was paid as $600,000 for 2008 and $200,000 over the next two seasons.

 

[The Colonel]

Why would you offer hopate 400K when they could of keot Idirs for that???
Idirs is a way better player at this stage of there career-A jnr and way more marketable

Idris is a better player and more markeable at this stage. Hopoate will be a better player in the long term.

 

[Eels Dude]

They restructured his cap so that in 2008, because of SBW and others all leaving that the gross payment of his and Patten's contracts were made in 2008. For instance - if his contract was 1 million over three years it was restuctured so that his contract was paid as $600,000 for 2008 and $200,000 over the next two seasons.

Yeah I'm aware of what they did, I was merely pointing out that they didn't frontload his ENTIRE contract into the 2008 salary cap but they staggered it. So he does count somewhat under the salary cap for this year not zilch as what was suggested.

 

[hindy111]

Idris is a better player and more markeable at this stage. Hopoate will be a better player in the long term.

Maybe - Maybe not
Idirs is still only 20..a lot of improvement left in him too

 

[Cocidius]

Would love to get Hopa....but at the end of the day, if we dont..at least we jacked up his price and the money manly will have to fork out....

 

[unclekane]

If Bullgrubs are offering Hopoate 750k over three years then surely we can comfortably beat that.

1. Hayne
2. Burt
3. Loko
4. Hopoate
5. Reddy
6. Morts
7. Sandow
8. Mannah
9. McGuire
10. Moi Moi
11. Hindmarsh
12. Lasalo
13. Horo

14. Keating
15. Webb/Allgood
16. Shackelton
17. Matuia

 

[oldmancraigy]

Maybe - Maybe not
Idirs is still only 20..a lot of improvement left in him too

Carrying the gut that Idris does at 20 is a worry.

By 25 he'll be a fat loafer, won't be able to play centers anymore and we'll see if he can shift to the front row.
Defensively he'd struggle there IMO.

 

[Eels Dude]

Carrying the gut that Idris does at 20 is a worry.

By 25 he'll be a fat loafer, won't be able to play centers anymore and we'll see if he can shift to the front row.
Defensively he'd struggle there IMO.

Idris is a back rower in the making. He even played a few games for the Bulldogs in the backrow at the end of last year. No way is he going to be a career centre.