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Rumoured/Confirmed Signings 2011/2012

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Stagger eel

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Not all coaches walk into a club with 10 players off contract & a reported 1 million under the cap.

Kearney would have allot more flexibility to build his team with our cap more so than any other team has had.

That is what i meant by open cheque book.

so I take it our buying has finished??
 

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so it's impossible for a bloke like Roberts to improve his game under Kearney's influence and guidence as plenty of players have done under various coach's??

Stagger, I admire your optimism and faith, I wish I had the same.

What happens if these players dont take to SK coaching and tactics. Thats what the problem is I see with signing these fringe players.

I just hope we snag another 2 quality outside backs.

I dont want to see the club fall into a hole that SK cant get us out of. Much like Terry Lamb at the tigers many years ago.
 

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Stagger, I admire your optimism and faith, I wish I had the same.

What happens if these players dont take to SK coaching and tactics. Thats what the problem is I see with signing these fringe players.

I just hope we snag another 2 quality outside backs.

I dont want to see the club fall into a hole that SK cant get us out of. Much like Terry Lamb at the tigers many years ago.


as much as i think it was a mistake to get rid of da. Kearney is definatelly no terry lamb lol
 

Stagger eel

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It's not impossible of course not. But i'm not automatically going to assume it would. He's had a long time to make a name of himself in first grade.


of course not, every investment a club makes on a player is considered a genuine gamble, Idris is costing the titans over 400K a season and his current form certainly doesn't command it...but than again you have a guy like Wes Naquima who at the age of 29 is in the middle of a tug of war between 2 powerhouse clubs like Saints and Newcastle, 2 years ago you would of laughed at the thought of it...
 

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Not all coaches walk into a club with 10 players off contract & a reported 1 million under the cap.

Kearney would have allot more flexibility to build his team with our cap more so than any other team has had.

That is what i meant by open cheque book.

Fair point. Might have had something to do with why he decided to take over this blue and gold train wreck.
 

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as much as i think it was a mistake to get rid of da. Kearney is definatelly no terry lamb lol

True.

You could tell Lamb was a scumbag with a shit attitude. As a player he made it on natural ability. As a player Kearney always seemed like a professional and a hard worker.
 

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but than again you have a guy like Wes Naquima who at the age of 29 is in the middle of a tug of war between 2 powerhouse clubs like Saints and Newcastle, 2 years ago you would of laughed at the thought of it...

Hasn't big Wes come out of the Blue?

The guy was a fringe first grader a couple of years ago and right now he's playing at the level of an Origin player. Captaining the Knights this week too.
 

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kearney as a player wasnt mr clean. He was a regular visitor at the suspension room

I never said he was mister clean.

Don't confuse on-field behaviour with how a man carries himself off it. If you've ever played footy you'll know there's plenty of good blokes that are psychos for 80 minutes a week.
 

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Yes Ben Roberts best year was 2009.Just like it was Joel Reddys and Luke Burts and co.
ROberts was 23 than and just starting to hit his straps.2010 he was injured and this year he hasnt been given a chance-Now that he has signed for parra i doubt he will be given a chance unless there are injuries.
Roberts will be 26 and the potential to be very good-Fingers crossed
 

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thats a ideal depth signing. fullback, wing, centre could even play lock

Pfft. You reckon he'd sign for a squad player's salary?

Wes is 28 and in career best form. I'd say for the next 2 years he will want a minimum of $200k. That's first grader's money.
 

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until the club says recruitment for 2012 is over then there is no point blowing up if you are not happy with our recruitment because it may not be finished.

I don't think people have a right to blow up even if we don't do any more recruitment.

And my thoughts on this have nothing to do with who we have already signed - i think people have no right to complain about signings simply because it is impossible to know all the nuances in the recruitment process and to understand why certain players are or aren't signed.

Fans constantly bag players out, even thought there are many things that the fans can't see. They are not in a position to see the full effect a player has on his teammates. They can not see the skill that a player shows in training that has not yet transferred to the game. They are not aware of what the coaches instructions were and whether that player carried them out.

However, at least in these situations, a fan can see the players performance to some degree, as it is right there on the field every week. So, there is some justification when the fans bag out the players, though - due to the numerous things that they can't see - they are as often wrong as right.

BUT, when it comes to negotiations, the fans KNOW NOTHING. There are a million different things that can put off any negotiation, in any walk of life, and it is not the job of the Parramatta Eels recruiters to pay more than they think a player is worth, or acquiesce to player's (or his slimy agent's) requests if they don't think that he is worth it.

And that's just the money part. There is also the element of the character that you are bringing to the club, and whether they will compliment the current characters etc. (eg Brian Smith went out of is way to buy "talkers" before 2005, because he felt the team was too quiet on the field). Rugby League doesn't have a normal interview process - we don't advertise that we need a fast winger for example - so the negotiation is essentially the interview. If a player exhibits a certain character in the negotiation process, then the club may not want him, but another club may not see that character, or may want it.


If you actually find out what someone is paid and you think that they are overpaid, then perhaps you have a right to complain. And if the people at the club responsible for recruitment continually, year after year, give us an average squad, then perhaps we as fans should complain (as long as we are comfortable that we have the money to spend year after year). But apart from that I think fans should realise that they don't know squat about the recuitment processes.
 
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