Rumoured & Confirmed Signings - Part 5

[Chins get the wins]

He might make the most tackles, but not all tackles are equal. Who would you want tackling you, Yeo, or Leota.? Yeo or Martin?

Nobody is disrespecting Yeo, he might be seen as one of the best forwards to ever play the game by the time he finishes his career. But he is no enforcer. You need an enforcer to put steel in the pack and that is not his role, why would you even argue it is? JFH lead our pack when it comes to doing the tough stuff. Now we need somebody else to step up.

The toughness of the Panthers pack is the most underrated element of our four peat. It is never mentioned because our pack never went around causing trouble like NAS or JWH. They didn't make a song and dance about being tough, they just belt you and get back in the line and got on with the job of dominating opposition forwards. Our front three rarely got beaten and Yeo has been the glue, mopping up tackles, supplying tough metres and plenty of minutes. Sorro has played a similar role, with less volume.

Yeo is the one who take the tough carries. Our props often take whole sets off, playing prop for Penrith is one of the easier gigs in the NRL

 

[Girds89]

Yeo is the one who take the tough carries. Our props often take whole sets off, playing prop for Penrith is one of the easier gigs in the NRL

Your soo wrong here.

Our props defend like no other props in the comp.

I agree no one is at yeos standard but our props are all elite.

Moses had an off year probably carrying injury and he still bossed it when it mattered.

Being a top prop isnt making 200m a game like haas.

Its marker defence. Its line speed. Its getting back into the line when your shot.

For all off the average stuff moses did this year he still did the important stuff in my books.

Yeo will or at least should go down as a hall of famer imo. Hes up ther with joey and langer, Thurston etc. Stop comparimg leota and co to him. Hes on a different level

 

[West Nowra Panther]

This is our problem that will never get fixed because of who we are. I agree we should take time to building him up, but there should be some protection we are not doing it just for another club to poach.

This is so true.

Not too many first grade ready 19 year olds come along, but our system of blooding them slowly is a formula that is proven.

Plenty of "boom" youngsters are unearthed by clubs to just fizzle out in a couple of years.

Most players don't develop until 50 or 60 games in the senior ranks and all the talk about Ball and Flegg superstars is irrelevant playing against men.

The fact Penrith develop players for other clubs to poach is an evil predicament the club has learnt to live with. Hopefully we keep the right one rather than lose them because of the salary cap.

 

[WestyLife]

Yeo makes the most meters and most tackles. He also doesn't phone in games for months at a time like others. He's the f**king leader, put some respect on his name.

This is a very emotionally charged argument. You know what people mean and that there is no disrespect to Yeo at all. He isn't an enforcer. He's the guy the enforcers look upto as their hero.

 

[soc123_au]

I love Yeo, but leading a pack in terms of toughness is a different kind of leadership. That's not Yeo. Stamping your physical authority on the opposition is not Yeo's thing. We need Leota, Kenny and Martin to do that and establish "You shall not pass", instilling fear in the opposition.

I have said this before, no opposition forward is checking under the bed for Yeo when they go to sleep at night. He tackles well, but nobody is booking a chiropractor after he hits you.

On the other hand, I bet plenty of them have booked Monday sessions with the Chiro after playing the Panthers. The Doctor says "how did it happen?" The player says "I was taking a hit up and then I saw these two steely eyes, sort of like a demon's, and a mop of curly hair, it was very frightening, then I just felt pain". The Doctor says "there's a lot of that going around at the moment. Its called Liam Martinitis. I can help you, but it could be worse". The player says "Worse, my ribs are killing me, how could it be worse?". The Doctor say"Well, I have had quite a few cases of Kennyitis and it is far more painful. They don't even know how it happens, they just see a flash of something below them and it stops them in their tracks. Now, let me help you get your ribs realigned"....

I think he stamps it, but in a different way. It would be pretty demoralising for opposition packs seeing Yeo just come at you for 80 minutes with the intensity not changing. Minute 1 or 79 he will cut you down in defence, or with the ball draw you in and then ball play, or run at you and make a half break putting you and your mates on the back foot. He does it every single game against the best packs in the game.

Fish, Martin and Kenny will rearrange some ribs, and it will be effective on one or two opposing players each game. What Yeo does is death by 1000 cuts to entire packs and their bench pretty much every week.

I'd be confident that if you gave an opposition coach the power to sit out one of our pack before each game just about every one of them would be putting a line through no 13.

 

[Munky]

Up until this season I'd have agreed about Fish, Leota and Martin being leaders of the pack.

However they were borderline plod during the regular season bar the Sharks and Roosters games. They turned it on during the finals but they don't get the chance to hold back the full season without Yeo playing at an incredible level all season.

His 2024 season should be the stuff of legends given his workload the last couple of seasons.

During the four year premiership streak he will have played 120 games across the NRL, Origin and internationals.

Thirty game average per season all at an elite level. Absolutely ridiculous level of consistency.

2020 adds another 24 games plus in recent years the 2 WCCs. It's an absolutely insane half decade.

 

[Munky]

Double post

 

[Pomoz]

I think he stamps it, but in a different way. It would be pretty demoralising for opposition packs seeing Yeo just come at you for 80 minutes with the intensity not changing. Minute 1 or 79 he will cut you down in defence, or with the ball draw you in and then ball play, or run at you and make a half break putting you and your mates on the back foot. He does it every single game against the best packs in the game.

Fish, Martin and Kenny will rearrange some ribs, and it will be effective on one or two opposing players each game. What Yeo does is death by 1000 cuts to entire packs and their bench pretty much every week.

I'd be confident that if you gave an opposition coach the power to sit out one of our pack before each game just about every one of them would be putting a line through no 13.

I think the impact of keeping going for 80 minutes applies to the whole team. As Matt Cameron said, fitness is the number one thing they look for. Taken to the extreme like the Panthers have and you get record comebacks in grand finals, even with Yeo off the field for HIA.

I think Yeo's brand of football is inspirational and have no doubt the other players look up to him. They would admire the fact that even when he is smashed by someone like NAS, he gets up and goes again. But, when all is said and done, he won't stop opposition forward packs getting over the top of us without our enforcers doing their job in defence. South's have Murray who is arguably just as good as Yeo, yet they have finished nowhere because he is playing in a beaten pack.

I think this conversation has ended up the other way round. I didn't disrespect Yeo, but many comments don't seem to value our pack. Kenny is not a first grader and is average and so on. I see it differently. Without the intensity and aggressiveness of our pack, we don't win one, let alone four premierships.

 

[soc123_au]

I think the impact of keeping going for 80 minutes applies to the whole team. As Matt Cameron said, fitness is the number one thing they look for. Taken to the extreme like the Panthers have and you get record comebacks in grand finals, even with Yeo off the field for HIA.

I think Yeo's brand of football is inspirational and have no doubt the other players look up to him. They would admire the fact that even when he is smashed by someone like NAS, he gets up and goes again. But, when all is said and done, he won't stop opposition forward packs getting over the top of us without our enforcers doing their job in defence. South's have Murray who is arguably just as good as Yeo, yet they have finished nowhere because he is playing in a beaten pack.

I think this conversation has ended up the other way round. I didn't disrespect Yeo, but many comments don't seem to value our pack. Kenny is not a first grader and is average and so on. I see it differently. Without the intensity and aggressiveness of our pack, we don't win one, let alone four premierships.

Kenny suits what we do perfectly. They all compliment each other really. I think the complaint (for want of a better word) is that some of the pack go missing for periods where Yeo never shirks his job. That and we all have our favorites as well. I've seen plenty of compliments from the other Yeo fanboys for the rest of the pack when they rip in.

 

[BossleyPanther]

Yep no doubt he is the future but i think he may still be another 12 to 18 months away from of regular fg.

Other then spencer we took our time with henry and smith. Spencer was physically (strength wise not fitness) ready for fg very early for a prop.

Patea doesnt have as much explosive power as Spencer or his leg speed. I think the club take their time with him.

Leota had an avg year but i think he will lead the pack next year without fish.

This is our problem that will never get fixed because of who we are. I agree we should take time to building him up, but there should be some protection we are not doing it just for another club to poach.

This is so true.

Not too many first grade ready 19 year olds come along, but our system of blooding them slowly is a formula that is proven.

Plenty of "boom" youngsters are unearthed by clubs to just fizzle out in a couple of years.

Most players don't develop until 50 or 60 games in the senior ranks and all the talk about Ball and Flegg superstars is irrelevant playing against men.

The fact Penrith develop players for other clubs to poach is an evil predicament the club has learnt to live with. Hopefully we keep the right one rather than lose them because of the salary cap.

I wonder what the perfect solution would be? A contract to at least 25, with performance clause and Injury clauses outside the cap?

It is also hard as so many clubs don't have the demographics like we do with affordable living etc.

 

[maple_69]

It's a weird conversation. We have a really effective defensive system amongst our forwards that assigns some guys to line speed and belting blokes and some guys to making sure NOTHING gets through the middle. They all do their roles incredibly well. We had the Kiwi, Blues (basically) and Kangaroos captains leading our pack, the only debate is what your criteria for a pack leader is, but regardless, both Fish & Yeo are incredible leaders and replacing both Fish's intimidation factor and leadership will be tough. There were some real signs that Henry has that dawg in him so hopefully he grows into the dominant force he has the potential to become.

 

[BossleyPanther]

How is it possible that the Bulldogs can afford Leo Thompson and Terrell May if the Rumours are true?

 

[Chins get the wins]

How is it possible that the Bulldogs can afford Leo Thompson and Terrell May if the Rumours are true?

Gus will ruin the cap for years for a short term hit

 

[luv my panfas]

How is it possible that the Bulldogs can afford Leo Thompson and Terrell May if the Rumours are true?

Easy laundry has 20 companies same as nick Nothing to see here

 

[MugaB]

Easy laundry has 20 companies same as nick Nothing to see here

That's a great name, "Nick nothing to see here"