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Gary Gutful

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I beg to differ, i believe it has been working in practice. We have a tight competition, there really is very little difference from first to last. On any given day any team can beat any other team in the comp, this wasn't the case when i was growing up. The bottom place teams had next to no hope against the top teams. No team has won three premierships in a row in the salary cap era. Imagine being a footy fan while dragons were winning 11 in a row it would have almost seemed pointless to bother.

It is obviously a personal opinion but ill take salary capped sport over non salary capped every day of the week. I also know it is flawed at times and abused but i still believe the proof is in the pudding.

Quick question - Who won the premiership in 2007 and 2009?
 

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Yes thanks poo i meant to mention how well it has worked in the nfl as well.

There are a whole lot of factors that are different when comparing the usage in the NFL to say the NRL. Wish people would stop comparing US sports to the NRL.

Not to mention it hasn't been as successful in the MLB or NBA. Still comes down to the intelligence of the people in management positions.
 
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Gary Gutful

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It wasn't that long ago surely you can remember.

Unfortunately, a team that felt that they need to bend the rules to win.

I guess that's the down side of a cap. It needs to be crystal clear what the rules are and those rules need to be strongly enforced. If these criteria can be satisfied then I agree that it is a sensible way to go.
 

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There are a whole lot of factors that are different when comparing the usage in the NFL to say the NRL.

Not to mention it hasn't been as successful in the MLB or NBA. Still comes down to the intelligence of the people in management positions.

Salary cap is a salary cap, baseball and basketball are sh*t sports, and even more so does it rely on the intelligence of people in management positions as your playing field is the same or at least similar to everyone else in the comp. You don't need smart management if you got a 100 million dollars more than everyone else.
 

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Unfortunately, a team that felt that they need to bend the rules to win.

I guess that's the down side of a cap. It needs to be crystal clear what the rules are and those rules need to be strongly enforced. If these criteria can be satisfied then I agree that it is a sensible way to go.

Thats sport im afraid. Teams will always bend the rules to try and win. We don't remove penalties for offside just because someone won a game by scoring a try when they should have been penalized for being offside.
 

Gary Gutful

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Thats sport im afraid. Teams will always bend the rules to try and win. We don't remove penalties for offside just because someone won a game by scoring a try when they should have been penalized for being offside.

Not suggesting that we remove the salary cap. I am just highlighting that it isn't without it's flaws if not properly administered. Having a premiership winner 'crossed out' for two of our recent seasons is a fairly big blight which I believe should be considered by anyone extolling the benefits of a salary cap.
 
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There are a whole lot of factors that are different when comparing the usage in the NFL to say the NRL. Wish people would stop comparing US sports to the NRL.

Not to mention it hasn't been as successful in the MLB or NBA. Still comes down to the intelligence of the people in management positions.

Not sure what 'it' is but if it's the salary cap....the MLB doesn't have one.

It's true that there are some big differences between the NRL and US sports. It's also true that developments over there and elsewhere are reasonable predictors of how stuff develops here (just later). Not rocket science..money pulls the strings.
 

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Not suggesting that we remove the salary cap. I am just highlighting that it isn't without it's flaws if not properly administered. Having a premiership winner 'crossed out' for two of our recent seasons is a fairly big blight which I believe should be considered by anyone extolling the benefits of a salary cap.

Absolutely it is not a good look for the salary cap but i think and like i said its just a personal opinion that the good far outweighs the bad. However if this became a common occurrence that every 2nd or 3rd year we had no premiers because the teams got caught out after the fact than i would have to probably change my opinion. I do hope that if nothing else comes out of the storm salary cap scandal that at least the next team thinks twice about doing it.
 

Gary Gutful

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Absolutely it is not a good look for the salary cap but i think and like i said its just a personal opinion that the good far outweighs the bad. However if this became a common occurrence that every 2nd or 3rd year we had no premiers because the teams got caught out after the fact than i would have to probably change my opinion. I do hope that if nothing else comes out of the storm salary cap scandal that at least the next team thinks twice about doing it.

Agreed Dan.
 

Daneel

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Several teams break the salary cap every year and get fined for it
They are technical breaches and not deliberate systematic cheating of the cap. More often to do with 2nd tier salary cap issues than anything else.
 

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They are technical breaches and not deliberate systematic cheating of the cap. More often to do with 2nd tier salary cap issues than anything else.

Still indicates that something is very wrong with it if it happens every year with multiple teams.

I agree with a salary cap but the current system and policing of it is pretty f**ked up
 

Gary Gutful

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Out of interest, does anyone think that we would have been able to assemble a team as good as the eels team from 81-86 under the current salary cap rules?
 

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Still indicates that something is very wrong with it if it happens every year with multiple teams.

I agree with a salary cap but the current system and policing of it is pretty f**ked up

Not much of an argument against that. I think you have to do a masters at university to understand how it works, hence all the technical breaches. I think it might be called a bachelor of schubert or something like.
 
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