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Rumoured Signings and General Dribble XIII

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Poupou Escobar

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Surely he would be better than Mullaney :lol:

He is a much better player then Mullaney.

Mullaney has won Man-of-the-Match in first grade. This other merkin has never even played at that level, but both are undersized.

Also, Mullaney got a release to go and play for a club with a fair bit of money, so he's not that shit. He's obviously not good enough to play NRL every week but he's too good for Wenty. Is Evander Cummins too good for Wenty? He might well be if he's trying to get out of his Dragons contract, but he's not good enough for our NRL team so why would we want him, and more to the point, why would he want to come to Parra?

Mullaney didn't want to hang around as our backup, so why would this bloke?
 

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Given that there is a good chance that Hopoate will be on rep duties with Hayne, and thus can't deputise for him at fullback, it would seem that Arthur prefers having a specialist sitting next in line.

There is a slot available at Wenty for a specialist fullback if Hunt and Sio (both part-time fullbacks) nab wing spots in first grade or otherwise play somewhere other than fullback in the Wenty backline.

Decent signing if it works out, although it would add to the logjam of backs we have contracted for 2014.
 
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Mullaney has won Man-of-the-Match in first grade. This other merkin has never even played at that level, but both are undersized.

Also, Mullaney got a release to go and play for a club with a fair bit of money, so he's not that shit. He's obviously not good enough to play NRL every week but he's too good for Wenty. Is Evander Cummins too good for Wenty? He might well be if he's trying to get out of his Dragons contract, but he's not good enough for our NRL team so why would we want him, and more to the point, why would he want to come to Parra?

Mullaney didn't want to hang around as our backup, so why would this bloke?

I've barely even seen him play. But, from what i have heard, he has alot of potential.

I'm sure Mullaney would much prefer to be on the money he is on, with an NRL club, but that won't happen because he's not that good, as we all know. I'd say we were pretty happy to give him that release. I am ;-)
 

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Off topic and old news, but I'm over here in England with a Heavyweight boxer I manage. Was speak to Lee Roby's manager yesterday. Has nothing but praise for Parramatta and says the club had agree with Roby but they couldn't wiggle out of his current contract. Said it's an option still though.
 

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Off topic and old news, but I'm over here in England with a Heavyweight boxer I manage. Was speak to Lee Roby's manager yesterday. Has nothing but praise for Parramatta and says the club had agree with Roby but they couldn't wiggle out of his current contract. Said it's an option still though.
Never heard of Lee Roby - did you mean James Roby?
 

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Steve Murphy is the first assistant by the looks, has been at the titan since 07. DA has lured him down another former Parra boy.
 

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Mullaney has won Man-of-the-Match in first grade. This other merkin has never even played at that level, but both are undersized.

Also, Mullaney got a release to go and play for a club with a fair bit of money, so he's not that shit. He's obviously not good enough to play NRL every week but he's too good for Wenty. Is Evander Cummins too good for Wenty? He might well be if he's trying to get out of his Dragons contract, but he's not good enough for our NRL team so why would we want him, and more to the point, why would he want to come to Parra?

Mullaney didn't want to hang around as our backup, so why would this bloke?

He is a much better player then Mullaney, has genuine speed, and skill.
I'm pretty sure cummins was injured for a lot of this year other wise he would have had some first grade footy.

A lot of dragons fans have massive raps on him.
 

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don't know if it's been mentioned before but justin hunt is a junior half?

he was playing on the wing because reynolds and keary were ahead of him in the bunnies system

not saying he'll go any better than kelly but its more good depth and no doubt he'll get a better opportunity if he's up to standard
 

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don't know if it's been mentioned before but justin hunt is a junior half?

he was playing on the wing because reynolds and keary were ahead of him in the bunnies system

not saying he'll go any better than kelly but its more good depth and no doubt he'll get a better opportunity if he's up to standard

I have mentioned it before, while I doubt he is a serious contender (at this stage ) for a halves spot, as he has played in the halves is he an option as our 14?

We r short on back up hookers and as mentioned he does have experience in the halves. I have not seen enough of him to make a judgement but maybe we should try him at 14 during the trials. His pace would make him pretty dangerous from dummy half.

Nothing is gained if nothing is tried.
 

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I have mentioned it before, while I doubt he is a serious contender (at this stage ) for a halves spot, as he has played in the halves is he an option as our 14?

We r short on back up hookers and as mentioned he does have experience in the halves. I have not seen enough of him to make a judgement but maybe we should try him at 14 during the trials. His pace would make him pretty dangerous from dummy half.

Nothing is gained if nothing is tried.

hopefully the club tries him out during pre-season. obviously we can't tell if he has playmaking abilities but he has shown creativity and ability with his kicks in open play and not only does he have speed, he has that michael hancock/shaun berrigan/jason nightangle/sam perrett/grothie attitude to not go down with the ball and ability to break tackles. good traits imo for a 14 if combined with what playmaking abilities he does have
 

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don't know if it's been mentioned before but justin hunt is a junior half?

he was playing on the wing because reynolds and keary were ahead of him in the bunnies system

not saying he'll go any better than kelly but its more good depth and no doubt he'll get a better opportunity if he's up to standard

If he's been playing wing and fullback (even for North Sydney) it's because he's been judged to not have the required skills for an NRL half. Most likely his kicking game isn't good enough but it could be a couple of other things. Maybe he can't 'steer a team around the park' lol.
 

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I have mentioned it before, while I doubt he is a serious contender (at this stage ) for a halves spot, as he has played in the halves is he an option as our 14?

We r short on back up hookers and as mentioned he does have experience in the halves. I have not seen enough of him to make a judgement but maybe we should try him at 14 during the trials. His pace would make him pretty dangerous from dummy half.

Nothing is gained if nothing is tried.

If a bloke isn't above average at tackling and/or wrestling then you don't want him defending in the middle third, no matter how good his attacking skills are.

Some of the best attacking hookers in the world will spend their entire (short) careers in reserve grade. Ruck defence is just far too important in the modern game.
 

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If a bloke isn't above average at tackling and/or wrestling then you don't want him defending in the middle third, no matter how good his attacking skills are.

Some of the best attacking hookers in the world will spend their entire (short) careers in reserve grade. Ruck defence is just far too important in the modern game.

I agree, but do we know if his defence aren't any good? We can assume it may not be, but it is worth a try in the trials to find out, it's not like we have any stand outs for 14

He is 90 kg/182 cm so size wouldn't be an issue with his defence
 
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If a bloke isn't above average at tackling and/or wrestling then you don't want him defending in the middle third, no matter how good his attacking skills are.

Some of the best attacking hookers in the world will spend their entire (short) careers in reserve grade. Ruck defence is just far too important in the modern game.
once again your getting stuck on what number they have on their backs, good coaches can find the right fit for special players without playing them in their traditional roles.
 

Craig Johnston

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If he's been playing wing and fullback (even for North Sydney) it's because he's been judged to not have the required skills for an NRL half. Most likely his kicking game isn't good enough but it could be a couple of other things. Maybe he can't 'steer a team around the park' lol.

he played back positions for north because that's where the bunnies want him to play when he gets a call up

proves nothing about his ability or lack of.
 

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once again your getting stuck on what number they have on their backs

No mate, I'm the one that tells you not to get caught up in what number they're wearing.

I said blokes who can't tackle or wrestle shouldn't be defending in the middle third. That's got nothing to do with what number they're wearing, but there needs to be four defenders in the middle.

good coaches can find the right fit for special players without playing them in their traditional roles.

Even a shit coach can find the right fit for a player. There's really not a wide range of shit to do on a footy field, and it's all been tried before.

For every positive there's a negative. For example, if you play a bloke out wide you can make the most of his speed and/or ability to beat a defender one-on-one. But then he won't be able to get involved as much as if he was playing in the middle. If you play him in the middle he can get more involved, but then it's easier for the defence to throw numbers at him.

And so on.

Now, I assume you're implying that a good dummy half should be able to attack at 9 but if he's not a good defender then a good coach would hide him in defence, and I agree that's a good idea in isolation. But remember there's only so many defenders you can hide on the field before you run out of places to hide them.

If your hooker is defending three in on one side of the field (or wider) then you need to find another bloke to defend in the middle (to make up the four man central defensive group that every coach uses). And that bloke has to be able to attack somewhere on the edge. The logical choice is to use an edge forward (so he would defend in the middle but attack on the edge).

Come to think of it, it's a pretty good idea. And I'm as shit a coach as any merkin.

Edit: Actually it is a shit idea. If you remove an edge forward from one side of the field and replace him with a dummy half that you're trying to hide, then you have one edge defensive group that consists of a winger, a centre, a half, and the weak defending hooker.
 
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he played back positions for north because that's where the bunnies want him to play when he gets a call up

proves nothing about his ability or lack of.

The fact that Souths didn't want to use him in the halves says a fair bit. They went with a rookie halfback last year (Reynolds) with Hunt on the wing, and this year they introduced another rookie half (Keary) and still didn't use Hunt.
 
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