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nick87

nick87

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Tommy Smith said:
Wayne has 7 Premierships and what, 1000 finals appearances?

Can someone please remind me what Ivan has achieved besides a GF appearance in 2011?
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Im not disputing Wayne Bennett's history or his status as one of, if not the greatest coach of modern times, none of his accomplishments are relevant to this discussion, if it was Tim Sheens would still be an NRL coach...

The question is not about Bennett's history, it's about his future, and i've seen absolutely nothing from him since the Dragons stint to suggest he's not a great coach on a pretty steady decline. The game is passing him by, as it does with everyone.

The Broncos are telling you this too. If even part of them felt like Wayne was still an elite coach, there is no chance they'd be pushing him out the door. That's the club that knows him best, a club that should, given all their advantages, compete for a title and win one every 2-3 years. The bar is set high and they're saying "thanks, but no thanks"

Given the resources at his disposal, his latest stint at the Broncos has been, to be perfectly honest, a failure. This comes on the back of the absolute f**king disaster he threw down at the Knights. No doubt in my mind Ivan Cleary is a better coach for 2019 than Bennett.

If you grade success on the curve of realistic expectations, to me Cleary has been consistently a successful coach. His teams always perform better than expected over the course of the year, where as Bennett's teams of the last 6 or so years have under delivered imo
 
TheFrog

TheFrog

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Spot On said:
But to go back and work for Gus, looking over his shoulder, does not make any sense.
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The only way it makes sense is that he's going to learn Gus's job so he can take it over at a (sooner rather than) later date. Expect Ciraldo to be a bit more than just your average assistant coach. Maybe Panthers will follow the Roosters lead with their captains, and have co-coaches?
 
The Rosco

The Rosco

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TheFrog said:
The only way it makes sense is that he's going to learn Gus's job so he can take it over at a (sooner rather than) later date. Expect Ciraldo to be a bit more than just your average assistant coach. Maybe Panthers will follow the Roosters lead with their captains, and have co-coaches?
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Nah. No Co-coaches. Ivan Cleary's deeply profound ethics, his rock solid foundations of honesty and integrity, his un-swaying commitment to completing his tasks and seeing a job through, his perfectly oriented moral compass won't let him share coaching duties.
Men of honour and integrity like Ivan prefer to carry that cross alone, as a beacon to all souls searching for a just and honourable leader to show them how to stay strong to the 3 pillars of being a man. Truth, Integrity and Honour.
Chins like Ivan's don't just grow on any common man. I know only one other bloke who had a chin like that, and he was a lawman. A gallant, ethical, honourable lawman.
I speak of none other than Dudley Do-right. You youngsters might have to look up your tube on the computing net machine, but when you do, you'll see what I'm talking about.
 
Tommy Smith

Tommy Smith

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yobbo84 said:
He'll be your 6 in 2020, replacing Cronk. For sure.
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I sure hope not.

The merkin is not Rooster material.

I'd be especially gutted if he cost us Latrell or Manu.

Also I just can't see the Storm losing him given the money they will have by then when Smith retires too.
 
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