Rumours and Stuff

[Bazal]

My point is that the try was setup by two forwards running one out straight and hard with quick play the balls, which is always going to be much more effective than this half hearted runs with interchange passing and trying to offload.

It depends on the player, in terms of the interchange passing anyway (obviously half-hearted runs are never gonna help us). Nathan Brown and Matagi are very useful in an interchange passing situation and should be used that way occasionally because it puts doubt into the defence. You can't always run one out, even as a forward, because the worst thing you can do is become predictable.

I think basically the issue is we need to choose our moments better. An offload in the right situation is a deadly weapon, it the wrong situation it can cost you a game. That's what we need to learn, more than stopping offloading or stopping forwards from passing or whatever.

 

[Bazal]

kaysa's running game has pretty much been ineffective. And his service is poor.

Then there are his defensive issues.

He's not a first grader, simple as that. He's not skillful enough for the modern hooking role, and his defence sucks

 

[Poupou Escobar]

In what way?

Ma'u, Edwards, Takairangi, Brown, Matagi, Scott, Vave and Fritchard are all blokes who can use the ball. Especially that first three, use the ball more than most at their positions.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

My point is that the try was setup by two forwards running one out straight and hard with quick play the balls, which is always going to be much more effective than this half hearted runs with interchange passing and trying to offload.

Yeah agreed. Though I don't think we are going into contact with the intent to offload. It looks like an afterthought against a defence muscling up, when what is required is patience.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

kaysa's running game has pretty much been ineffective. And his service is poor.

Then there are his defensive issues.

He was doing fine until he got injured. This also coincided with our middle forwards wanting to take the easy out.

And by coincidence I actually mean coincidence. I don't think Kritchard's ankle injury has caused our middle forwards to throw the ball away in heavy contact. We got battered by Manly as well and just got on with it.

 

[hineyrulz]

So what is it that our coaching staff love about him to keep re-signing him even with all the injuries?

Genuine question.

Good trainer??

He tries hard???

Good joke teller??? Can play the piano because it's got me stumped.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It depends on the player, in terms of the interchange passing anyway (obviously half-hearted runs are never gonna help us). Nathan Brown and Matagi are very useful in an interchange passing situation and should be used that way occasionally because it puts doubt into the defence. You can't always run one out, even as a forward, because the worst thing you can do is become predictable.

I think basically the issue is we need to choose our moments better. An offload in the right situation is a deadly weapon, it the wrong situation it can cost you a game. That's what we need to learn, more than stopping offloading or stopping forwards from passing or whatever.

Yep. It's a question of decision making by the player throwing the pass. It's got nothing to do with the quality of service they're getting.

Of course you have to ask why the bad decision is being made and it surely comes down to the intent for quick play-the-balls. To me that says more about the team trying to protect our halves from pressure.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Ma'u, Edwards, Takairangi, Brown, Matagi, Scott, Vave and Fritchard are all blokes who can use the ball. Especially that first three, use the ball more than most at their positions.

Are we signing these guys though because we're cheaping out on spine positions? It might work if you sign the guys who can do some of the halves stuff but aren't being recognised for that.

 

[Happy MEel]

Yeah agreed. Though I don't think we are going into contact with the intent to offload. It looks like an afterthought against a defence muscling up, when what is required is patience.

I disagree. I think we're going in with the mindset of trying to create second phase play, which has us too upright in collision because you rarely see offloads close to the ground. This makes us easy pickings for the defence and they're driving us back and to save face we're still pushing the pass.

 

[Kornstar]

Good trainer??

He tries hard???

Good joke teller??? Can play the piano because it's got me stumped.

My assumption is that he is one of the better trainers, great team mate and the most important thing......the coach actually thinks he has the talent and maybe he isn't the problem with the team?

 

[Kornstar]

He is cheap.

That's a pretty big risk to keep a player who is playing a position that is such an important part of a team........

 

[hineyrulz]

My assumption is that he is one of the better trainers, great team mate and the most important thing......the coach actually thinks he has the talent and maybe he isn't the problem with the team?

Maybe BA is the problem if he thinks Kaysa is the solution or a first graders arsehole.

 

[Happy MEel]

That's a pretty big risk to keep a player who is playing a position that is such an important part of a team........

It is...and one that isn't paying off so far.

 

[hineyrulz]

It is...and one that isn't paying off so far.

Some of us questioned our dummy half options all off season, but others with amazing RL knowledge told us that we don't need a quality dummy half we don't attack that way blah blah blah.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Are we signing these guys though because we're cheaping out on spine positions? It might work if you sign the guys who can do some of the halves stuff but aren't being recognised for that.

I'm sure of it.

 

[Noise]

That's a pretty big risk to keep a player who is playing a position that is such an important part of a team........

Yep, one that is back firing (as many of us predicted)

 

[Kornstar]

Maybe BA is the problem if he thinks Kaysa is the solution or a first graders arsehole.

Maybe he is the problem.......if we don't win soon everyone will be calling for his head quick smart.

It is...and one that isn't paying off so far.

Maybe he is not the problem?

Some of us questioned our dummy half options all off season, but others with amazing RL knowledge told us that we don't need a quality dummy half we don't attack that way blah blah blah.

I am not for or against Kaysa he is still effectively a rookie. He is clearly the scapegoat though i am just unsure if he is our problem.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Some of us questioned our dummy half options all off season, but others with amazing RL knowledge told us that we don't need a quality dummy half we don't attack that way blah blah blah.

Do you really think a better dummy half would have solved our problems this year? We are pushing passes in the middle. A better dummy half won't solve that unless Kritchard is the one calling for the offload.

It appears some of you are just looking for a scapegoat - one you already decided on before the season kicked off. Kritchard was just fine in our first two games but now he's the cause of our impatience with the ball? Wake up to yourself.

 

[Bazal]

I am not for or against Kaysa he is still effectively a rookie. He is clearly the scapegoat though i am just unsure if he is our problem.

Not everybody who gets criticised is a scapegoat. Sometimes they're just poor footballers. Kaysa is simply not up to first grade standard, the major reason BA keeps picking him is there is literally no one else. De Gois is in Disneyland and King is always injured.

Kaysa ran once for 4m last night. A makeshift Titans hooker, with an injury, ran more than he did (and more effectively). Issac Luke ran for 126m! Now running isn't the be all and end all for a hooker obviously, but you need to have a run in you and when you add that (which is supposed to be Kaysa's strength I might add) to his poor passing game, not having a kicking game and missing lots of tackles he's simply not doing well enough.

 

[hineyrulz]

Do you really think a better dummy half would have solved our problems this year? We are pushing passes in the middle. A better dummy half won't solve that unless Kritchard is the one calling for the offload.

It appears some of you are just looking for a scapegoat - one you already decided on before the season kicked off. Kritchard was just fine in our first two games but now he's the cause of our impatience with the ball? Wake up to yourself.

Maybe if the service from dummy half was first grade we could you know maybe have less trouble getting over the advance tine without the need to pop silly passes????