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85 Baby

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The Giants really are struggling in NRL heartland, from what I read. The AFL has to give out freebies to school kids to get a crowd of about 5K or 6K. They can't continue to do that forever.
Yeah Giants are very much a “my kid got a free ticket for a Sunday afternoon with nothing else on” vibe. The Showground can be a good place for a bit of dusk time sport
 

Tiger5150

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He didn't come back to the Eels he was already talking to the Storm. Which is in the court docs

Also means diddly if the contract says he doesn't want to play rugby league anymore and wants to try his hand at another sport / Onion.
They cant contract him to not want to play rugba loig. That would pretty much be definition RoT.
 

Tiger5150

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It all depends on the terms of release agreement. Was it a blanket "we hold your rights to play in the NRL till the end of the contract"? It's not RoT if the agreement didn't have provisions for him to change his mind and come back. If it was a blanket agreement regarding his ability to play in the NRL - it's up to the club to determine that takes places.
He had a Contract ot play in the NRL, for Parramatta. If Parramatta now doesnt allow him to play for Parramatta, or anyone else, I cant see how thats not a restraint of trade........unless he received massive consideration, which would then have to count under salary cap...(not THAT would be hilarious).
 

85 Baby

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He had a Contract ot play in the NRL, for Parramatta. If Parramatta now doesnt allow him to play for Parramatta, or anyone else, I cant see how thats not a restraint of trade........unless he received massive consideration, which would then have to count under salary cap...(not THAT would be hilarious).
If a company releases an exec at the exec’s request, saying you can’t work for our competitors, and no we don’t want you back, do you think the restraint wouldn’t be enforceable?
 

Tiger5150

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If a company releases an exec at the exec’s request, saying you can’t work for our competitors, and no we don’t want you back, do you think the restraint wouldn’t be enforceable?
EDIT: Ive given you the benefit of the doubt and attempted to have a good faith discussion many times before, only for you end it as a merkin. You clearly dont know what you are talking about and it appears you have extended your furry cos play into cosplaying as a legal expert on football forums.

Lesson learned.
 
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Well, in the context of the Storm succeeding in Victoria, I'd argue that it's important.

But absolutely - fans not being in the team's home state doesn't disqualify them. Or, at least, it shouldn't.

During our Darwin home game years, we got decent crowds up there.

My point is that, given that we have been starved of on-field success for 4 decades, and the Storm are regularly top 4 finishers, I am fairly confident on saying that if we went on a tear, similar to what the Panthers have done, it would do far greater good for the NRL, than what the Storm currently do for the NRL.
Agree, Rugby League will never ever get anywhere near AFL, the Storm are just keeping it in the shop window….at any dirty price….Parra being successful in my opinion is a far better return for the game
 

Eelementary

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By the way - I don't mean to imply that the Storm's success in Victoria is miniscule, or that it doesn't matter.

It's in the NRL's best interests to have a healthy Melbourne team.

I'm just saying - I firmly believe that a competitive Parramatta team is just as important to the NRL, if not even more so.
 
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People are starting with restraint of trade, did he or did he not start talking to the scum and union as early as June whilst contracted to us, basically signing a tentative agreement, and did he not have lawyers present when negotiating a release, ONE year into a four year deal? and when u ion fell apart he goes to scum first, but gets desperate and comes back crawling to us???

The restraint of trade is on him as he chose to leave league, that’s where it ends for us in my opinion
 

85 Baby

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EDIT: Ive given you the benefit of the doubt and attempted to have a good faith discussion many times before, only for you end it as a merkin. You clearly dont know what you are talking about and it appears you have extended your furry cos play into cosplaying as a legal expert on football forums.

Lesson learned.
Edit - apologies I feel like I’ve done what you did the other week jumping on a post where all you’ve written is like 2 lines. We’re not here to write essays. I actually think in essence we agree so I’ll just leave my last paragraph.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying the circumstances are unlikely and even if they are the truth, it’s a bit more than “you don’t want him so you can’t stop him going elsewhere”.
 
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85 Baby

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Yes they can if the reason he wanted to leave was that he didn't want to play rugby league.
You can’t restrain someone purely off them saying they don’t want to do something. In fact you can’t restrain them off anything they say.
 

emjaycee

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That won't happen.

The judge will either say the contract by us is enforceable or it's not.
Not necesssarily.
In most RoT cases (at least in NSW) there is the option for the judge to apply a Reasonableness Test in which case it might be determined for example that the conditions of the release are valid, however the duration for which it applies is unreasonable. It might be that the judge says "Can't play NRL for 2026, but free agent for 2027 and beyond."
 

Soren Lorenson

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Not necesssarily.
In most RoT cases (at least in NSW) there is the option for the judge to apply a Reasonableness Test in which case it might be determined for example that the conditions of the release are valid, however the duration for which it applies is unreasonable. It might be that the judge says "Can't play NRL for 2026, but free agent for 2027 and beyond."
I reckon I could probably cop that.
 
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