Rumours and Stuff

[strider]

Moses move likely.

The Tigers are believed to be considering tabling Lolohea a 4-year $2.5 million dollar contract, a figure that is understood to be close to double his current salary, which would be hard for the 22-year old to refuse and the chance to play first grade.


The Tigers want it to happen sooner rather then later too. Lolohea is currently contracted to the Warriors until the end of the 2018 season, but there are moves being made by the Tigers to bring him to the club within the coming weeks.

So Ivan changed his mind about contracts and finishing them?

 

[Bazal]

So Ivan changed his mind about contracts and finishing them?

Well yeah, when it suited him ;-)

If they get Lolohead this season they don't need or want Moses, and potentially cen't even afford to make him stay. Good for us, bad for them.....Lolohead isn't half the half that Moses is. He's more like a two-eighths than a five-eighth

 

[IFR33K]

So Ivan changed his mind about contracts and finishing them?

He's moved with the times. He's no longer old school.

 

[emjaycee]

Everyone that assumed Jennings is on big money would be surprised what he signed for.

I mentioned this last year but can't be assed looking for it.

 

[RazorRam0n]

You can prioritise centre down the order, absolutely. But having two gun centres is a big advantage. We're also losing our major backline weapon in Semi.

not if you have strong backrowers, chooks are a good example, they're considering moving on ferguson to make cap room.

if semi is replaced with someone like tupou, the backline is still comparable to some of the leagues best even without jennings

1. bev
2. hoff (who is also recognised as a test level centre)
3. gutho
4. auva'a
5. tupou

if it meant the difference in having

9. peats
10. james graham

i'd be all for it.

 

[Jake the snake]

Everyone that assumed Jennings is on big money would be surprised what he signed for.

I mentioned this last year but can't be assed looking for it.

I don't think he would be on anything more than $550k per season, we took over the roosters contract.

 

[Gronk]

not if you have strong backrowers, chooks are a good example, they're considering moving on ferguson to make cap room.

if semi is replaced with someone like tupou, the backline is still comparable to some of the leagues best even without jennings

1. bev
2. hoff (who is also recognised as a test level centre)
3. gutho
4. auva'a
5. tupou

if it meant the difference in having

9. peats
10. james graham

i'd be all for it.

Hoff only every repped playing fullback merkin.

http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/players/josh-hoffman/summary.html

 

[Eelementary]

dugans 700k offer is being trumpeted as the highest paid centre in the game...so unlikely jenko on anything north of that.

i think we can get better value than him though eg gutho and auva pairing and reinvest jenko money on a hooker/prop etc.

Personally, I think Jennings/Gutherson in the centres is better than Gutherson/Auva'a, and I think Kirisome is a good player.

As good as Kirisome is, out of those 3, he'd be the least all round player, imo - Jennings is class both sides of the ball, as is Gutherson - but Auva'a is not as defensively strong, while perhaps offering more power.

I like all 3 players, but Jennings is on a class of his own, imo.

Watching Jennings school defensively weak centres is a real joy to watch.

 

[RazorRam0n]

Personally, I think Jennings/Gutherson in the centres is better than Gutherson/Auva'a, and I think Kirisome is a good player.

As good as Kirisome is, out of those 3, he'd be the least all round player, imo - Jennings is class both sides of the ball, as is Gutherson - but Auva'a is not as defensively strong, while perhaps offering more power.

I like all 3 players, but Jennings is on a class of his own, imo.

Watching Jennings school defensively weak centres is a real joy to watch.

i don't disagree with any of that....just a question of VFM. especially considering we have some critical needs up front atm.

 

[Eelementary]

i don't disagree with any of that....just a question of VFM. especially considering we have some critical needs up front atm.

You're probably right - we get more value with a cheapy like Auva'a at centre.

I'd sure hate to lose Jennings, though.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

not if you have strong backrowers, chooks are a good example, they're considering moving on ferguson to make cap room.

if semi is replaced with someone like tupou, the backline is still comparable to some of the leagues best even without jennings

1. bev
2. hoff (who is also recognised as a test level centre)
3. gutho
4. auva'a
5. tupou

if it meant the difference in having

9. peats
10. james graham

i'd be all for it.

I'd personally rather see Hoffman to the left and Greg Leleisuaio on the right. Cheaper option than Tupou.

I also don't see the need for Graham. His best asset at this stage in his career is his experience and leadership and I don't see the need for that in our pack for next season. I think we can prioritise a better attacking forward over a more experienced forward.

 

[The Colonel]

i don't disagree with any of that....just a question of VFM. especially considering we have some critical needs up front atm.

With, reportedly, more than enough in the bank to meet them and then some.

Jennings is better VFM when he gets early ball and that value will increase with a settled halves combination and a forward pack giving them room.

 

[The Colonel]

I'd personally rather see Hoffman to the left and Greg Leleisuaio on the right. Cheaper option than Tupou.

I also don't see the need for Graham. His best asset at this stage in his career is his experience and leadership and I don't see the need for that in our pack for next season. I think we can prioritise a better attacking forward over a more experienced forward.

Graham loses his head at key times. He is a good leader but let's the moment get the better of him too often.

 

[Bazal]

Graham loses his head at key times. He is a good leader but let's the moment get the better of him too often.

Some of the duds on here have a massive go at Hayne for doing exactly what Graham does....but whatever. I'd still have Graham at the right price.

 

[RazorRam0n]

You're probably right - we get more value with a cheapy like Auva'a at centre.

I'd sure hate to lose Jennings, though.

i'm definitely not attacking jennings or questioning his contribution.

just trying to put sentiment aside when assessing improvement.

 

[RazorRam0n]

I'd personally rather see Hoffman to the left and Greg Leleisuaio on the right. Cheaper option than Tupou.

I also don't see the need for Graham. His best asset at this stage in his career is his experience and leadership and I don't see the need for that in our pack for next season. I think we can prioritise a better attacking forward over a more experienced forward.

graham is just an example....we need a prop capable of 200+ meters leading the way.

we're lucky to rely on mannah to make 100 each game right now.

 

[The Colonel]

Some of the duds on here have a massive go at Hayne for doing exactly what Graham does....but whatever. I'd still have Graham at the right price.

True. I think he is a good player but I also think he is reaching the end of his effectiveness. Still 35 tackles and 135 metres a game each week is good.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

graham is just an example....we need a prop capable of 200+ meters leading the way.

we're lucky to rely on mannah to make 100 each game right now.

Graham is not that player anymore. He'll be 33 next year and his ability to even have his best game being 200m+ will be even less. I think we have the experience in the forwards to allow us to go after a forward about to hit their prime who can average close to 200m.

Why is everything regarding middle forwards led back to Mannah? He isn't our best middle forward anymore, that mantle is now with Nathan Brown, I don't think Mannah is even our 2nd best middle forward anymore I'd hand that description over to Alvaro. So sure if you want a player just better than Tim Mannah then sure we can relate everything back to him. But I think we should, and can, aim to get a middle forward as good as, if not better, than Browny.

 

[RazorRam0n]

Graham is not that player anymore. He'll be 33 next year and his ability to even have his best game being 200m+ will be even less. I think we have the experience in the forwards to allow us to go after a forward about to hit their prime who can average close to 200m.

Why is everything regarding middle forwards led back to Mannah? He isn't our best middle forward anymore, that mantle is now with Nathan Brown, I don't think Mannah is even our 2nd best middle forward anymore I'd hand that description over to Alvaro. So sure if you want a player just better than Tim Mannah then sure we can relate everything back to him. But I think we should, and can, aim to get a middle forward as good as, if not better, than Browny.

browny is making good yardage, but he's doing that as 3rd and 4th ruck options playing lock and using his ballplaying ability to keep defenders on backfoot. i'm not convinced he'd make the same yardage making the suicide runs and/or be willing to create that variety off the 1st or 2nd ruck.

alvaro has had his chances to start and still doesn't achieve what mannah can at his best 150-160 meters and 20 runs. that's why mannah is still the benchmark for our prop rotation

on graham, it won't mean much here, but he's having a career best Supercoach wise. that means his production is actually on the up.

 

[bartman]

Everyone that assumed Jennings is on big money would be surprised what he signed for.

Did he sign for wine women and song, rather than money?