Rumours and Stuff

[Bazal]

No announcement from the club yet? This must be huge!

They're waiting for Twizz to make his exciting announcement.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Is anyone else starting to think maybe Max has decided that his job is done and it's time for him to step down and appoint Chuck Norris in his place? On the surface it seems unlikely but the more you think about it, it could just happen. It won't though. Unless it does. And then you heard it here first. Unless Chiefy scooped me.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

T

They're waiting for Twizz to make his exciting announcement.

Two in one day?? TWO IN ONE DAY??!!

 

[Bazal]

T

Two in one day?? TWO IN ONE DAY??!!

Well, maybe. But when will that day be? And will any of us live to see Twizz's exciting announcement and the fabled Weds 11am press conference? That's the question

 

[Swiftstylez]

No,we're back to you trying say alcohol is less harmful overall than illegal drugs. A blatant fallacy

For someone that doesn't believe in "cheering on political sides like football teams" you sure have a lot of political opinions on a forum designed for rugby league. You also need to realise that opinions aren't facts and people have different ways of what achieving what "is the best result". Not everyone is "hard left" like you (you refer to some politicians in Australia as 'hard right' when there is no such thing here).

Alcohol has the same potential to be misused as petrol, it is the individual that is the problem. Alcohol actually does not have the same addictive qualities and withdrawals as the harder drugs (and since you love appealing to authority, i'm more educated in this area than you are). Sure it is misused more in society but that is because it is legal. Imagine everyone doing the same thing with ice. As for cannabis, it can have really bad effects on peoples mental health depending on how they react to it. You might want it to be legal but it doesn't mean everyone else does.It isn't "harmless".

The fallacy is thinking having a couple of drinks is more harmful than doing ice or having a couple of joints. You are measuring impact of alcohol on society (because it is legal), that is your fallacy.

 

[Twizzle]

It would have been absolutely the death knell for the ARU if they cut the Brumbies.

will never happen imo, I reckon they are pretty safe

 

[Bazal]

For someone that doesn't believe in "cheering on political sides like football teams" you sure have a lot of political opinions on a forum designed for rugby league. You also need to realise that opinions aren't facts and people have different ways of what achieving what "is the best result". Not everyone is "hard left" like you (you refer to some politicians in Australia as 'hard right' when there is no such thing here).

Alcohol has the same potential to be misused as petrol, it is the individual that is the problem. Alcohol actually does not have the same addictive qualities and withdrawals as the harder drugs (and since you love appealing to authority, i'm more educated in this area than you are). Sure it is misused more in society but that is because it is legal. Imagine everyone doing the same thing with ice. As for cannabis, it can have really bad effects on peoples mental health depending on how they react to it. You might want it to be legal but it doesn't mean everyone else does.It isn't "harmless".

The fallacy is thinking having a couple of drinks is more harmful than doing ice or having a couple of joints. You are measuring impact of alcohol on society (because it is legal), that is your fallacy.

No, I have a lot of opinions on life, because I am an interested and engaged human being. But you're a troll and that's all I have to say to you on the matter, tbh.

 

[Swiftstylez]

No, I have a lot of opinions on life, because I am an interested and engaged human being. But you're a troll and that's all I have to say to you on the matter, tbh.

There is also nothing wrong with threatening to drug test your children by saying "If you take drugs I will test you and if you are positive, you will be spending six months in a boot camp somewhere". Bad influences have nothing to do with a parents parenting, you might not think so, but that doesn't mean you are right.

So you admit you don't sit on the fence with politics, you just detest people that don't agree with you? Sounds like you.

 

[Bazal]

will never happen imo, I reckon they are pretty safe

I would have laughed my balls off tbh, even as somewhat of a rugby fan. It won't happen, but it would be very funny if it did.

 

[Oscarman]

Absolutely. Can't believe anyone thinks they won't.

 

[Swiftstylez]

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/beatyo...ancing-yourself-self-limiting-beliefsand-more

27th minute from a qualified evolutionary psychologist. To paraphrase, there are only two things you have to worry about as a parent (that are in your control):

You need to worry about pregnancy and drug addiction. Drug addiction does not play fair and therefore it makes sense to carry a very heavy hand on these young brains that don't know anything and are very open to experience and agreeable. They could walk themselves right into a hell of a mess. One thing you are going to do as parents and let them know no deal, not in my house. Let them know pleasantly that there will be consequences... you let them know they are going to be in a far away place doing a ropes course for a few months if they test positive to drugs. Pregnancy, you need to make yourself open to discussion and available.

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A bad childhood experience that obviously wasn't done out of love, doesn't mean other parents can't look out for their children.

 

[Bazal]

I'm sorry, I genuinely thought you were El D for a moment there. Forgive me.

 

[Swiftstylez]

Alcohol is used more frequently than illegal drugs by orders of magnitude, yet is only marginally more responsible for negative health and safety effects.

This is essentially the correct argument if you add the caveat that there are only more negative health and safety effects because it is legal.

 

[Bazal]

This is essentially the correct argument if you add the caveat that there are only more negative health and safety effects because it is legal.

You also need to realise that opinions aren't facts

Trolly McTrollface

 

[Oscarman]

I'm sorry, I genuinely thought you were El D for a moment there. Forgive me.

Nah. I like to occasionally post these before he does. Just for shits and giggles.

 

[Swiftstylez]

Trolly McTrollface

You were saying that drug tests shouldn't be applied to children. This is an opinion not a fact. If you want a troll, I bet you got triggered hard by the budget last night on welfare drug testing.

What I have posted about alcohols impact on society compared to other illegal drugs in regards to the withdrawal symptoms and the potential for addiction, is fact.

 

[Bazal]

What I have posted about alcohols impact on society compared to other illegal drugs in regards to the withdrawal symptoms and the potential for addiction, is fact.

Period!

 

[Swiftstylez]

Period!

http://drugwarfacts.org/chapter/addictive_properties
https://www.ncjrs.gov/ondcppubs/publications/pdf/marijuana_myths_facts.pdf

 

[Bazal]

Very nice edit. I take it you didn't actually read any of the other links, and thus deleted them for a pretty image?

I'll stoop to your level for one second to point out that you are confusing two separate discussions. One, that alcohol is more of a social issue in terms of addiction and medical harm than any illegal drug. Two, that MANY illegal drugs should be legal, and that ALL drugs should be decriminalised. I'd truly love for you to point out where I said harder drugs like heroin or ice are either safe, or should be legal.

All of which has been discussed at length and tbh everyone else is probably completely sick of it. SO feel free to start a new thread in PD and I might even discuss it again.

 

[Swiftstylez]

Very nice edit. I take it you didn't actually read any of the other links, and thus deleted them for a pretty image?

I'll stoop to your level for one second to point out that you are confusing two separate discussions. One, that alcohol is more of a social issue in terms of addiction and medical harm than any illegal drug. Two, that MANY illegal drugs should be legal, and that ALL drugs should be decriminalised. I'd truly love for you to point out where I said harder drugs like heroin or ice are either safe, or should be legal.

All of which has been discussed at length and tbh everyone else is probably completely sick of it. SO feel free to start a new thread in PD and I might even discuss it again.

I still have the link there because I wanted to give you an additional resource to read. I've already read similar links.There is more potential for negative effects to mental health from having a few joints a day in comparison to having a couple of drinks of alcohol to the individual. Neither should be engaged in by children.

Ok sorry I haven't been checking lately. The thing is just because something bad for you is legal (like cigarettes), it doesn't mean you should decriminalize more things with the potential to be abused. We know more about drugs than we used to. I don't see people turning into psychotic beasts from having a couple of coffees either.