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He'll be a decent tackling forward that is out muscled in attack each week.

Mate, it's not like the guy is 5' 9", he is a monster but runs like a 9 year old school girl who's wet her pants and crying for her mummy.

Tepai needs to be running off Moses on the edge. I can see your point, but think Arthur is using him in the wrong way. Tepai is the type that should be running at smaller players on the edge and not up the middle. Tepai does get dominated but that can be said about most of our soft front rowers atm ... Alavaro and his soft buddy Mannah.
 

Dibs

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He'll be a decent tackling forward that is out muscled in attack each week.

Mate, it's not like the guy is 5' 9", he is a monster but runs like a 9 year old school girl who's wet her pants and crying for her mummy.
Well if that's the case you should have no problem standing in front of him and dropping him on his ass. However I think if that happened my money is in you being the one with wet knickers
 

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Well if that's the case you should have no problem standing in front of him and dropping him on his ass. However I think if that happened my money is in you being the one with wet knickers

I'll stand in front of Tepai for a fee. If I live or die, I win! I meant....what?
 

emjaycee

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IMHO Tepai, like Pauli Pauli, Windscreens and to a lesser extent Alvaro, is one of those "nice guy footballers" that we have had at least three or four of over the last few years. Big body, but lacking the mongrel needed to use it properly.
When in attack do not see them go into the collision trying to beat, bash and barge their way through the defence.

Not that I want any of them running at me and I wouldn't do what they do for all the money in the world. These guys are first grade footballers and I respect that totally.
 

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He'll be a decent tackling forward that is out muscled in attack each week.

Mate, it's not like the guy is 5' 9", he is a monster but runs like a 9 year old school girl who's wet her pants and crying for her mummy.
He gets good momentum with his runs. Takes early carries and pokes his nose through for quick play-the-balls. He's not a giant, he is very mobile, which is why his defence is so good.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Tepai needs to be running off Moses on the edge. I can see your point, but think Arthur is using him in the wrong way. Tepai is the type that should be running at smaller players on the edge and not up the middle.
Ma'u and Edwards play on the edges. Most forwards would attack better out wide because there's more space plus there's halfbacks defending there. But not everyone in the team can stand out wide in attack.
Tepai does get dominated but that can be said about most of our soft front rowers atm ... Alavaro and his soft buddy Mannah.
Without Mannah and Alvaro working hard in defence Brown has to work harder, leaving him less energy for attack. Especially with Kritchard out.
 

Kornstar

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Well if that's the case you should have no problem standing in front of him and dropping him on his ass. However I think if that happened my money is in you being the one with wet knickers

It's easy to rip shreds off an NRL player when there are no repercussions.

Sure be critical of certain parts of a players game but calling him "hopeless" because he missed a tackle that led to a try is ridiculous. Great players miss tackles too.
 

Incorrect

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It was Alvaro's fault there. The inside man needs to fill the space. The attacker is trying to get defenders to turn in, which is what you think Moeroa should have done.
I thought this too. Maybe not Alvaro's fault exclusively, but a fresh, nippy half coming off the bench up against a fatigued forward, the dummy and step back inside, wrong footing said fatigued forward and in to space where nobody is covering will score most times. If Alvaro's was there and tackled Fawley, the criticism is then aimed at Fawley for not promoting the ball. Kudos to him, he saw the gap created by the lazy inside defence.
 

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Alvaro wouldn't even be considered on most top 8 teams benches. I understand he probably takes up minimal cap space, but people on here are constantly talking up his defense, when his most important job is getting the team out of trouble on their own line, in which he is average .

Since when have props been responsible for that? That's the outside backs job, because they make f**k all tackles and if you're stuck on your own line odds are the pack are pretty f**ked from defence....how often does a prop run on the first three tackles in that situation?
 

chiefy1

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Since when have props been responsible for that? That's the outside backs job, because they make f**k all tackles and if you're stuck on your own line odds are the pack are pretty f**ked from defence....how often does a prop run on the first three tackles in that situation?


That's bs.
Although I agree usually first two hit ups are usually taken by outside backs, it's then up to the go forward men - props - to continue with the roll on and win the ruck.

Why do you think props play minimal minutes and carry all that extra bulk - just for looks ????
 

Bazal

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Why do you think props play minimal minutes and carry all that extra bulk - just for looks ????

Because the game evolved in such a way that the blokes who wound up in the middle were the bigger blokes whose lateral movement was garbage. And because when scrums were contested the front row actually had a purpose and needed to be big.

It's never been the job of a prop to get his side out of trouble on the line, except by tackling his ring off. You said it yourself, they need to keep the roll going, not get the roll going.If anything, smart teams use their edge forwards to do this, running wider to avoid the line speed of the middle defenders.
 

84 Baby

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I've said it before rugby league is a simple game and all we need are bigger props. In fact I'm amazed no coach has signed up 13 big guys who could cover the entire width of the field. That's an undefeated season right there. With zero points against to boot
 

Bazal

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I've said it before rugby league is a simple game and all we need are bigger props. In fact I'm amazed no coach has signed up 13 big guys who could cover the entire width of the field. That's an undefeated season right there. With zero points against to boot

Mate, we're going with 13 fullbacks and that's that.
 

lingard

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Moses can be one of our best signings in a long time if he keeps devoloping and reaches his potential. Too many people focus on his defence, we didn't get him for his defence otherwise we could have put f**king Jeff Robson in the team. People that focus on Moses defence are short sighted imo. We got Moses for what he can do in attack and to help out when Norman is shut down by teams. Good example of this was on Friday night.

Exactly. It's like how people focussed on Sandow's defence - when it was really his erratic attack that was the main problem.
 

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