Rumours and Stuff

[Gary Gutful]

 

[bartman]

So without any shred of evidence whatsoever you're going to call a person guilty for domestic violence?

I never said he was guilty... the court found the charges not proven.

I just said that doesn't convince me that he's innocent. If you followed the news articles at the time, it shouldn't be too hard to understand.

 

[bartman]

"Yet to be convinced" of someone's innocence is (luckily) a far cry from being convinced of his guilt.

Thank you, you get it.

You react 'as though' he is guilty of domestic violence. You also 'seem' to view all domestic violence cases as the same (which they aren't).

And now you're misinterpreting me... oh well.

Fair point that you feel your mum was to blame for most (but not all) of what you experienced growing up. But that has little to do with Semi's situation, and even less to do with my opinion on Semi, based on personal judgement from info in the public domain.

Semi 'might' be a grub. He might just as easily not be. Or he might be a grub in some contexts or situations or times in his life but not in others. Like you. Or me. Or most people.

Sure. And my opinion is that he is a grub, and not everyone has to share that opinion.

But that doesn't mean I have a black and white view of the world, or think that men are the wrong-doers in all allegations of domestic violence etc etc *insert any other assumptions here*

I stand by my comment, and believe the club will be better off without Semi in 2018 and beyond - it's not like he's recaptured his form of two seasons ago anyway.

 

[bartman]

He'll believe anything if it paints a successful Islander in a bad light.

Yeah... my favourite Eels player for the past two seasons is M'au, and - unlike others here - I rate Moeroa and think he'll just get better.

It's just wankers like Hayne and Semi (and Tim Smith) that I don't have much time for...

 

[Bazal]

"I have black friends!"

 

[bartman]

Lol, nonsense... if only I'd mentioned Tim Mannah (along with Tim Smith), you'd have as much evidece to attempt to claim I'd do anything to put down someone whose name starts with T, as you have evidence to erroneously claim I have a dislike of Islanders (based on two mercenaries Jarryd and Semi)

 

[El Diablo]

I never said he was guilty... the court found the charges not proven.

I just said that doesn't convince me that he's innocent. If you followed the news articles at the time, it shouldn't be too hard to understand.

the court didn't decide

the charges were dropped after his ex took the stand and they realised she was full of shit and they had no hope of prosecuting

 

[bartman]

the court didn't decide

the charges were dropped after his ex took the stand

Yes, that part is true...

and they realised she was full of shit and they had no hope of prosecuting

And that part is speculation, and just one of several possibilities. And not prosecuting doesn't equate to being innocent either....

 

[Gary Gutful]

I actually think Bart has a point. Semi is hardly a saint and seems to be a bit of a thickshit who has made some bad decisions in his life.

Having said that, I would still love to see him stay. He isn't a destabilising influence like Jarryd.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

I never said he was guilty... the court found the charges not proven.

I just said that doesn't convince me that he's innocent. If you followed the news articles at the time, it shouldn't be too hard to understand.

Ahh yes, the completely unbiased news of Richard Murdoch they would never have an agenda.

I'm going to side with a judge who has many years of experience in law and has seen more domestic violence cases than you've heard. You can have your own views but they're objectively incorrect.

 

[84 Baby]

Bart the new Pou. Just say the opposite of what everyone else thinks because.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Yes, that part is true...

And that part is speculation, and just one of several possibilities. And not prosecuting doesn't equate to being innocent either....

You haven't prosecuted for fornicating with goats. Doesn't mean you're innocent. That's just one of the possibilities.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Phantom Goatf**ker

 

[hineyrulz]

I have no doubts whatsoever that Phantom is a Goatf**ker.


Happy to be proven wrong though

 

[Twizzle]

OK, hang on for a bit, I'll get the goat

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Bart the new Pou. Just say the opposite of what everyone else thinks because.

I agree with bart and Gary.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You haven't prosecuted for fornicating with goats. Doesn't mean you're innocent. That's just one of the possibilities.

Balance of probability. While bart is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, here in the court of public opinion the balance of probability says to any reasonable person that he doesn't have relationships (illicit or otherwise) with goats. He strikes me as the type who only sleeps with women susceptible to emotional abuse.

 

[Stagger eel]

Balance of probability. While bart is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, here in the court of public opinion the balance of probability says to any reasonable person that he doesn't have relationships (illicit or otherwise) with goats. He strikes me as the type who only sleeps with women susceptible to emotional abuse.

Female goats who suffered from emotional abuse?? .... that's seriously f**ked up dude

 

[Poupou Escobar]

They're merkins anyway. They're asking for it.

 

[Glenneel]

We've also won every game where we lead at full time. That's the most telling stat.

So from the above posts I've read everyone is happy that we stop scoring after 50 mins and then defend a lead for the next 30. So if we don't lead we're up the creek then.

I'd prefer if we score consistently throughout the whole match but that's just me, obviously I shouldn't think this way.