Rumours and Stuff

[Gronk]

Problem for Dargan is Will Smith (age 25) is very versatile and Moses (22) is only a pup too.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yeah how much is a fourth string halfback worth? Less than a third string halfback, especially when he won't be top 17 (at our club) until 2020 at the earliest.

 

[84 Baby]

It may also be a case of not wanting to be 4th string half. There is probably a back up half spot available somewhere

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well the money and the squad position should go together.

 

[hineyrulz]

Dargan won't be a huge loss IMO, decent kicking game reminds of the merkin from Canberra we picked up who went to the Roosters.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

As a halfback, clubs would be throwing money at Dargan if was anywhere near ready for an NRL spot next year.

And by playing a fair bit of NSW cup, clubs would have had a good chance to see how he goes.

Obviously has potential but probably needs time, as is reflected in that he isn't already signed up by another club.

 

[Stagger eel]

I'd offer Cleland from the dogs a deal as our 4th string..

 

[Joshuatheeel]

It may also be a case of not wanting to be 4th string half. There is probably a back up half spot available somewhere

Who says he is 4th string? He could be first back up. Who knows until he starts playing next year.

At this stage Smith, is our 3rd string fullback, halves and hooker back up for next year - obviously he can't cover all those spots if there is injuries.

Of course I am sure there will be more signings to provide cover.

 

[lingard]

Will Smith has done very well for himself this year, hasn't he?

 

[84 Baby]

Who says he is 4th string? He could be first back up. Who knows until he starts playing next year.

At this stage Smith, is our 3rd string fullback, halves and hooker back up for next year - obviously he can't cover all those spots if there is injuries.

Of course I am sure there will be more signings to provide cover.

He is the "backup" half, however it'd probably depend how long hypothetically Normzie/Moses is out. A short term injury would probably just see Gunco shift into halves because our backup outside back is probably a better option than Dargan. Then again if it's just for one game BA may just throw Dargan in to give him taste and conversely if it's a season ending injury he may just completely alter the lineup to allow Gunco and the uninjured half gelling time.
If one of our halves went down now, I'd say Edwards would move into halves and if French gets back, Smith to bench

 

[Gazzamatta]

Didn't we sign a gun Union half who broke down during pre season? Whats the go with this kid?

 

[Gronk]

BRISBANE BRONCOS

2018 Gains: Jack Bird (Cronulla Sharks, 2021), Andre Savelio (Warrington Wolves, 2019)
2018 Losses: Jai Arrow (Gold Coast Titans), Herman Ese'ese (Newcastle Knights), Keegan Hipgrave (Gold Coast Titans), Ben Hunt (St George Illawarra Dragons), Benji Marshall (Wests Tigers), Tautau Moga (Newcastle Knights), Francis Molo (released)
Re-Signed: George Fai (2019), Alex Glenn (2019), Jamayne Isaako (2018), Jordan Kahu (2020), Andrew McCullough (2021), Josh McGuire (2021), David Mead (2018), Anthony Milford (2021), Kodi Nikorima (2020), Corey Oates (2018), Joe Ofahengaue (2019), James Roberts (2021)
Off Contract 2017: Joe Boyce, Darius Boyd, Mitchell Dodds, Salesi Funaki, Jonus Pearson, Marion Seve, Travis Waddell

CANBERRA RAIDERS

2018 Gains: Erin Clark (New Zealand Warriors, 2019), Charlie Gubb (New Zealand Warriors, 2019), Liam Knight (Sydney Roosters, 2019), Michael Oldfield (Penrith Panthers, 2018)
2018 Losses: Adam Clydsdale (released), Zac Santo (New Zealand Warriors), Jordan Turner (Huddersfield Giants)
Re-Signed: Jarrod Croker (2020), Joey Leilua (2020), Jordan Rapana (2019), Jack Wighton (2020)
Off Contract 2017: Lachlan Croker, Masivesi Dakuwaqa, Makahesi Makatoa, Scott Sorensen, Dave Taylor

CANTERBURY-BANKSTOWN BULLDOGS

2018 Gains: Fa'amanu Brown (Cronulla Sharks, 2019), Kieran Foran (New Zealand Warriors, 2020), Aaron Woods (Wests Tigers, 2021)
2018 Losses: Craig Garvey (released), James Graham (St George Illawarra Dragons), Sam Kasiano (Melbourne Storm), Michael Lichaa (released), Tyrone Phillips (released), Josh Reynolds (Wests Tigers)
Re-Signed: Adam Elliott (2020), Danny Fualalo (2019), Kerrod Holland (2020), Will Hopoate (2020), Marcelo Montoya (2020), Reimis Smith (2019), Renouf To'omaga (2020), Aiden Tolman (2020)
Off Contract 2017: Michael Doolan, Rod Griffin, Andy Saunders, Chase Stanley

CRONULLA SHARKS

2018 Gains: Josh Dugan (St George Illawarra Dragons, 2021), Aaron Gray (South Sydney Rabbitohs, 2019), Ava Seumanufagai (Wests Tigers, 2019)
2018 Losses: Gerard Beale (New Zealand Warriors), Jack Bird (Brisbane Broncos), Fa'amanu Brown (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs), Manaia Cherrington (New Zealand Warriors), Jordan Drew (released), Daniel Mortimer (Leigh Centurions)
Re-Signed: Kurt Capewell (2019), Kurt Dillon (2018), Sosaia Feki (2019), Andrew Fifita (2022), Paul Gallen (2018), Wade Graham (2019), Valentine Holmes (2019), Luke Lewis (2018), Billy Magoulias (2019), Matt Prior (2020), Chad Townsend (2020)
Off Contract 2017: Adam Clydsdale, Chris Heighington, Jeremy Latimore, Joseph Paulo, Sam Tagataese, Tony Williams

GOLD COAST TITANS

2018 Gains: Jai Arrow (Brisbane Broncos, 2020), Keegan Hipgrave (Brisbane Broncos, 2018), Brenton Lawrence (Manly Sea Eagles, 2019)
2018 Losses: Tyler Cornish (released), Chris Grevsmuhl (released), Chris McQueen (Wests Tigers), Leivaha Pulu (New Zealand Warriors)
Re-Signed: Jarryd Hayne (2018), Konrad Hurrell (2019), Ryan James (2020), Karl Lawton (2020), Nathan Peats (2020), Phillip Sami (2018), Paterika Vaivai (2018)
Off Contract 2017: Eddy Pettybourne, Tyrone Roberts, Ryan Simpkins, Oshae Tuiasau, William Zillman

MANLY SEA EAGLES

2018 Gains: Toafofoa Sipley (New Zealand Warriors, 2019)
2018 Losses: Brenton Lawrence (Gold Coast Titans), Steve Matai (retired), Nate Myles (released), Brett Stewart (retired)
Re-Signed: Manase Fainu (2019), Addin Fonua-Blake (2020), Brad Parker (2019), Frank Winterstein (2019)
Off Contract 2017: Billy Bainbridge, Kelepi Tanginoa, Jorge Taufua, Johnnie Walker

MELBOURNE STORM

2018 Gains: Sam Kasiano (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, 2020), Ryan Papenhuyzen (Wests Tigers, 2020)
2018 Losses: Jesse Arthars (South Sydney Rabbitohs), Dean Britt (South Sydney Rabbitohs), Tohu Harris (New Zealand Warriors), Jordan McLean (North Queensland Cowboys), Robbie Rochow (Wests Tigers)
Re-Signed: Josh Addo-Carr (2021), Nelson Asofa-Solomona (2019), Cheyse Blair (2020), Jesse Bromwich (2022), Kenny Bromwich (2020), Will Chambers (2020), Brodie Croft (2020), Dale Finucane (2021), Jahrome Hughes (2020), Ryley Jacks (2018), Felise Kaufusi (2019), Brandon Smith (2022), Joe Stimson (2019), Suliasi Vunivalu (2020), Christian Welch (2019)
Off Contract 2017: Cooper Cronk, Slade Griffin, Jeremy Hawkins, Nate Myles, Mark Nicholls, Billy Slater

 

[Gronk]

NEW ZEALAND WARRIORS

2018 Gains: Gerard Beale (Cronulla Sharks, 2020), Manaia Cherrington (Cronulla Sharks, 2018), Tohu Harris (Melbourne Storm, 2021), Leivaha Pulu (Gold Coast Titans, 2020), Zac Santo (Canberra Raiders, 2018)
2018 Losses: Erin Clark (Canberra Raiders), Bureta Faraimo (Hull FC), Kieran Foran (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs), Charlie Gubb (Canberra Raiders), Tuimoala Lolohea (Wests Tigers), Ben Matulino (Wests Tigers), Toafofoa Sipley (Manly Sea Eagles), Manu Vatuvei (Salford Red Devils)
Re-Signed: Blake Ayshford (2019), James Gavet (2019), Ata Hingano (2020), Shaun Johnson (2019), Mason Lino (2019), Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad (2019), Nathaniel Roache (2018), Ligi Sao (2019), Patrick Sipley (2018), Lewis Soosemea (2019), Joe Vuna (2019)
Off Contract 2017: Matthew Allwood, Ryan Hoffman, Jacob Lillyman, Bodene Thompson, Albert Vete

NEWCASTLE KNIGHTS

2018 Gains: Herman Ese'ese (Brisbane Broncos, 2020), Aidan Guerra (Sydney Roosters, 2020), Shaun Kenny-Dowall (Sydney Roosters, 2019), Tautau Moga (Brisbane Broncos, 2020), Kalyn Ponga (North Queensland Cowboys, 2021), Connor Watson (Sydney Roosters, 2020)
2018 Losses: Dane Gagai (South Sydney Rabbitohs), Rory Kostjasyn (retired), Sam Mataora (retired), Jarrod Mullen (released), Mickey Paea (Hull FC), Tyler Randell (Wakefield Trinity), Anthony Tupou (retired), Joe Wardle (Castleford Tigers)
Re-Signed: Mitch Barnett (2020), Lachlan Fitzgibbon (2019), Danny Levi (2020), Nick Meaney (2018), Dylan Phythian (2018), Nathan Ross (2020), Sam Stone (2018)
Off Contract 2017: David Bhana, Brendan Elliot, Jaelen Feeney, Jacob Gagan, Tom Hughes, Peter Mata'utia, Pauli Pauli, Will Pearsall, Josh Starling, Jack Stockwell, Luke Yates

NORTH QUEENSLAND COWBOYS

2018 Gains: Carlin Anderson (2019), Te Maire Martin (Penrith Panthers, 2019), Jordan McLean (Melbourne Storm, 2020)
2018 Losses: Kalyn Ponga (Newcastle Knights), Ray Thompson (retired)
Re-Signed: John Asiata (2020), Scott Bolton (2019), Jake Clifford (2019), Gavin Cooper (2019), Kyle Feldt (2020), Shaun Hudson (2018), Corey Jensen (2019), Kyle Laybutt (2018), Gideon Mosby-Gela (2019), Emry Pere (2018), Matthew Scott (2019), Murray Taulagi (2019), Jason Taumalolo (2027), Johnathan Thurston (2018), Enari Tuala (2019)
Off Contract 2017: Patrick Kaufusi, Ben Spina

PARRAMATTA EELS

2018 Gains: Kane Evans (Sydney Roosters, 2020), Mitchell Moses (Wests Tigers, 2019)
2018 Losses: Isaac De Gois (retired), Bureta Faraimo (Hull FC), Jamal Fogarty, James Hasson (released), Semi Radradra (rugby union), Jeff Robson (retired), Kelepi Tanginoa, Alex Twal (Wests Tigers)
Re-Signed: Nathan Davis (2018), David Gower (2018), Cameron King (2018), Tepai Moeroa (2019), Will Smith (2018)
Off Contract 2017: John Folau, George Jennings, Willis Meehan, Cody Nelson, Marata Niukore, Rory O'Brien, Frank Pritchard, Scott Schulte, Honeti Tuha, Matthew Woods

PENRITH PANTHERS

2018 Gains: None
2018 Losses: Sitaleki Akauola (Warrington Wolves), Zach Dockar-Clay (Hull Kingston Rovers), Peta Hiku (Warrington Wolves), Samisoni Langi (Leigh Centurions), Te Maire Martin (North Queensland Cowboys), Michael Oldfield (Canberra Raiders), Malakai Watene-Zelezniak (Wests Tigers)
Re-Signed: Wayde Egan (2019), Corey Harawira-Naera (2020), Sione Katoa (2019), Viliame Kikau (2018), Dallin Watene-Zelezniak (2020), Dean Whare (2022)
Off Contract 2017: Darren Nicholls, Tony Satini

SOUTH SYDNEY RABBITOHS

2018 Gains: Jesse Arthars (Melbourne Storm, 2019), Dean Britt (Melbourne Storm, 2019), Dane Gagai (Newcastle Knights, 2021)
2018 Losses: Anthony Cherrington (released), Bryson Goodwin (Leigh Centurions), Aaron Gray (Cronulla Sharks), Brett Greinke (released), Luke Kelly (released), Dane Nielsen (released), Robbie Rochow (Wests Tigers), Toby Rudolf (released), David Tyrrell (released)
Re-Signed: Campbell Graham (2019), Mawene Hiroti (2019), Alex Johnston (2020), Siosifa Talakai (2019), Kyle Turner (2019)
Off Contract 2017: Jack Gosiewski, John Sutton

ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA DRAGONS

2018 Gains: James Graham (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, 2020), Ben Hunt (Brisbane Broncos, 2023)
2018 Losses: Josh Dugan (Cronulla Sharks), Chris Lewis (released), Mose Masoe (Hull Kingston Rovers), Will Matthews (Widnes Vikings), Tyrone McCarthy (Salford Red Devils), Josh McCrone (Toronto Wolfpack), Taane Milne (Wests Tigers), Shaun Nona (released), Russell Packer (Wests Tigers)
Re-Signed: Euan Aitken (2020), Jack de Belin (2020), Jacob Host (2020), Tim Lafai (2020), Blake Lawrie (2019), Kurt Mann (2019), Jason Nightingale (2018), Tristan Sailor (2019), Paul Vaughan (2021), Gareth Widdop (2021)
Off Contract 2017: Levi Dodd, Kalifa Faifai Loa, Yaw Kiti Glymin, Siliva Havili, Jacob Hind, Drew Hutchison, Jake Marketo, Izaac Thompson

SYDNEY ROOSTERS

2018 Gains: James Tedesco (Wests Tigers, 2021)
2018 Losses: Paul Carter (released), Kane Evans (Parramatta Eels), Aidan Guerra (Newcastle Knights), Shaun Kenny-Dowall (Newcastle Knights), Liam Knight (Canberra Raiders), Connor Watson (Newcastle Knights)
Re-Signed: Mitch Cornish (2018), Blake Ferguson (2018), Michael Gordon (2018), Ryan Matterson (2019), Dylan Napa (2019), Mitchell Pearce (2019), Victor Radley (2019), Daniel Tupou (2021), Sitili Tupouniua (2019)
Off Contract 2017: Brenden Santi, Chris Smith, Johnny Tuivasa-Sheck

WESTS TIGERS

2018 Gains: Mahe Fonua (Hull FC, 2019), Tyson Gamble (2019), Tuimoala Lolohea (New Zealand Warriors, 2019), Benji Marshall (Brisbane Broncos, 2018), Ben Matulino (New Zealand Warriors, 2020), Chris McQueen (Gold Coast Titans, 2020), Taane Milne (St George Illawarra Dragons, 2019), Russell Packer (St George Illawarra Dragons, 2021), Josh Reynolds (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, 2021), Robbie Rochow (Melbourne Storm, 2019), Corey Thompson (Widnes Vikings, 2019), Alex Twal (Parramatta Eels, 2020), Malakai Watene-Zelezniak (Penrith Panthers, 2018)
2018 Losses: Matt Ballin (retired), Joel Edwards (released), Justin Hunt (retired), Jamal Idris (released), Jack Littlejohn (released), Kyle Lovett (released), Mitchell Moses (Parramatta Eels), Ryan Papenhuyzen (Melbourne Storm), Jordan Rankin (Huddersfield Giants), Ava Seumanufagai (Cronulla Sharks), James Tedesco (Sydney Roosters), Aaron Woods (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs)
Re-Signed: Josh Aloiai (2019), Luke Brooks (2019), Michael Chee-Kam (2019), Matt Eisenhuth (2019), Tim Grant (2018), Jacob Liddle (2019), Matt McIlwrick (2019), Kevin Naiqama (2018), David Nofoaluma (2021), Moses Suli (2020), Elijah Taylor (2020)
Off Contract 2017: Watson Heleta

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

PENRITH PANTHERS

2018 Gains:None
2018 Losses: Sitaleki Akauola (Warrington Wolves), Zach Dockar-Clay (Hull Kingston Rovers), Peta Hiku (Warrington Wolves), Samisoni Langi (Leigh Centurions), Te Maire Martin (North Queensland Cowboys), Michael Oldfield (Canberra Raiders), Malakai Watene-Zelezniak (Wests Tigers)

Crisis?

 

[conway]

Didn't we sign a gun Union half who broke down during pre season? Whats the go with this kid?

Blaise Barnes I think it was..not sure of his present status re fitness

 

[Gazzamatta]

Yeah ta. Thats him. Media report 22/10/16 says signed him on 2 year deal. Turns 20 Sept next year. Half/center /wing. Was apparently in high demand.
Anyone know where hes up to with his rehab?

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Think he did his knee last year but didn't recover as expected and was ruled out for this year.

 

[parrathruandthru]

Yeah ta. Thats him. Media report 22/10/16 says signed him on 2 year deal. Turns 20 Sept next year. Half/center /wing. Was apparently in high demand.
Anyone know where hes up to with his rehab?

Parra had his ACL surgery done again as the first was not to standard. Has spent the year in rehab getting a league body. Will be ready to go next year. Dargs out for the year broken arm

 

[Gazzamatta]

Good news for Barnes and bad for Dargan. I guess that means the 17 year old comes back in.
Looks like the 20s will play The Pennys next week.

 

[Noise]

Maroubra is on some kind of 'like' streak