Rumours and Stuff

[84 Baby]

Unprofessional is how I would describe it. Too many jokes, most if not all bombed. Too much focus on the grand final teams when the Dally M is about rounds 1-26.

I can blame greenberg for a lot of things, especially his awful, monotone speech that went on for way too long. But surprisingly I don't think the poor Dally M's was his fault, Fox are the hosts and the blame is squarely on them.

Fox focusing on Scum & Cows? Colour me shocked

#CAMGF8

 

[Joshuatheeel]

 

[Bazal]

Interesting to see how he goes. He has a really good reputation and did well in smaller "head" coaching roles.

I really think people read too much into his efforts as defensive coach with rubbish defensive sides.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yeah when a team has poor defence it's because it's full of reserve graders or at least poor defenders. Improved defensive structures won't help when blokes can't tackle or won't work hard off the ball.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Good luck to him. I can see him going OK.

 

[T.S Quint]

I hope he goes shit.

 

[Gronk]

Yeah when a team has poor defence it's because it's full of reserve graders or at least poor defenders. .

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Maybe missing the subtler point that coaching won't make a silk purse out of a sow's scrotum.

 

[Gazzamatta]

So why even have a coach at all? Defence is technique and attitude and its the coach's job to improve both. Saying he had weak cattle when all were paid as NRL players is difficult to understand.
Obviously this is why we punted Gentle. Maybe we should have concluded the players we have just cant do the job required and punt them not the coach.

 

[The EELiminator]

The whole Dally M awards are so amateur and sterile. I think this year has been the worst overall for the NRL on so many levels. It starts from the top. Poor leadership from Greenberg.

how does a team finish 4th and not get a single player in the team of the year while others who were well outside the eight get in?

fair enough jordan rapana's a nice guy but if semi isn't a better winger i'll give up

 

[The EELiminator]

so if pay is given the nod as dogs coach is it time to bring caylo home?
we have an assistant spot open

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So why even have a coach at all?

So why release some players and sign new ones?

Defence is technique and attitude and its the coach's job to improve both.

It is, but how much can be improved in the space of a season? How much can be improved in a handful of seasons? How much in the space of a player's NRL career?

I think the amount of improvement possible through coaching is far less important than the quality of the players to start with. It means that if you can sign a better player at value at contract you do that rather than trying to improve a sub-par player by another 2% or whatever the number is.

Saying he had weak cattle when all were paid as NRL players is difficult to understand.

Except Pay has now pulled a head coaching spot despite being the defensive coach at a couple of shitty defensive sides.

Some would imply that his record means he's a shitty defensive coach. the way I see it his teams would have been even worse without him.

Obviously this is why we punted Gentle.

Is it? It could be that we want to bring in some new blood rather than being complacent. It might just be that another club offered him more than we wanted to pay.

Maybe we should have concluded the players we have just cant do the job required and punt them not the coach.

The players finished top four. So did Pete Gentle. I don't think much can be drawn from our results other than that the players and assistant coach were all obviously good enough this year. Yet we are still losing Gentle and at least one of the players.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

so if pay is given the nod as dogs coach is it time to bring caylo home?
we have an assistant spot open

It seems like Burt is a superior coach to Cayless.

 

[The EELiminator]

It seems like Burt is a superior coach to Cayless.

so bring burty up as assistant and put caylo in reggies

 

[Eelogical]

Maybe missing the subtler point that coaching won't make a silk purse out of a sow's scrotum.

Ahh, if only sows had scrotums your point would be more valid. But, I detect the subtlety of your post.

 

[Gazzamatta]

So why release some players and sign new ones?

It is, but how much can be improved in the space of a season? How much can be improved in a handful of seasons? How much in the space of a player's NRL career?

I think the amount of improvement possible through coaching is far less important than the quality of the players to start with. It means that if you can sign a better player at value at contract you do that rather than trying to improve a sub-par player by another 2% or whatever the number is.

Except Pay has now pulled a head coaching spot despite being the defensive coach at a couple of shitty defensive sides.

Some would imply that his record means he's a shitty defensive coach. the way I see it his teams would have been even worse without him.

Is it? It could be that we want to bring in some new blood rather than being complacent. It might just be that another club offered him more than we wanted to pay.

The players finished top four. So did Pete Gentle. I don't think much can be drawn from our results other than that the players and assistant coach were all obviously good enough this year. Yet we are still losing Gentle and at least one of the players.

Probably.
I have no idea why Gentle has moved on. I do believe however that rejuvenating rosters should not just be limited to players.
Im sure you heard the TCT interview with Gentle Poo. Didnt sound like a bloke who was moving on. To the contrary actually.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Perhaps the club got confused and misread the meaning of the Dylan Thomas poem?

 

[Twizzle]

so bring burty up as assistant and put caylo in reggies

I think he works well with the teenagers, he has got the SGB guys aiming up well in NYC. I think he needs a few more years in NYC.

 

[Twizzle]

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[84 Baby]

Perhaps the club got confused and misread the meaning of the Dylan Thomas poem?

The dude from Recovery?