Rumours and Stuff

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

The reality is that there are around 600 odd fatal shootings by police each year in the US. Of those on average around 400 odd are black police shooting black citizens. The theory is that white officers are paranoid/worried that if they do shoot a black person that he or she will be accused of bigotry.

These numbers come from the FBI's own web site. They contravene the medias own figures that roughly double these numbers. Why the difference? I don't know, I haven't looked into it. But for a nation that has literally over 300m guns and a bad gang and drug culture, not to mention a propaganda division known as Hollywood that is second to none, which has made violence cool to so many over numerous generations, then are we at all surprised that this is going on?

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The difference in the numbers is not difficult to discover. The FBI collect the data from the various police forces, but those polices forces are not obliged to supply the data. And I'd be thinking that the choice regarding whether or not to supply data is not random.

Although the FBI does gather some data on fatal shootings, police forces are not obliged to provide it, and only some of them do. This led the Washington Post to start tracking civilian deaths itself after the shooting of Michael Brown by police in Ferguson in August 2014, by monitoring reports in the media.

"We looked at the FBI database, since that was the official government accounting for things. And saw that over the past decade, the average number of shootings that they counted was about 400. By the end of last year, we had almost 1,000 fatal shootings that we had captured," says Kimberly Kindy, an investigative reporter at the newspaper.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36826297

The article also cites some different data on the ethnicity of the shooters / shootees.

Now, of course, media outlets could well have their own incentive to over-report / under-report rates of particular crimes.

 

[Gary Gutful]

and the cop who shot her was one of those coloured folk you don't like

You didn't need to know his colour once you found out he was a dirty f**ken pig!

 

[Noise]

Does anyone know why some players haven't come back to pre season training yet (besides those involved with the world cup)? Surely everyone should get the same amount of leave?

 

[Gary Gutful]

Claims to be intellectual. Says "by enlarge"

Everyone knows its 'Buying Large'.

If I was to use it in a sentence:

"Hey Baz, I'm so hungry I could eat the arse out of a low flying duck. When we get to Macca's I am buying large."

 

[hindy111]

Does anyone know why some players haven't come back to pre season training yet (besides those involved with the world cup)? Surely everyone should get the same amount of leave?

Who should be back but isn't ?

 

[Noise]

Who should be back but isn't ?

Scott, Norman, Edwards

 

[hindy111]

Scott, Norman, Edwards

Interesting that 2 mentioned of leaving by Avenger.
Maybe back today?

Scott can tak an extra month off id say and would only benefit him.

 

[lingard]

I don't know why but I have a feeling we will sign a quality front rower before season kicks off. And I say this with no knowledge, just a hunch (hope).

I think we are OK with King and Pritchard. Re the props, I am not too worried about who is not off contract, they don't seem to matter much anymore. Napa would fit nicely...

I dunno. King and Pritchard would have to be the most injury-prone hookers in living memory. Bit of a gamble - even though I really like King.

 

[Noise]

Interesting that 2 mentioned of leaving by Avenger.
Maybe back today?

Scott can tak an extra month off id say and would only benefit him.

Even if they are back today (which I don't think they are) why do they get longer than others? Cameron King might be another who hasn't returned??

 

[Gary Gutful]

Maybe they are on annual leave?

 

[Noise]

Maybe they are on annual leave?

Yea that's what all of them were just on - the off season. But for some reason some blokes seem to be getting an extra couple of weeks

 

[strider]

We've clearly sacked half our squad ... massive scandal ... but we have done so well to keep it under wraps

 

[Bazal]

Even if they are back today (which I don't think they are) why do they get longer than others? Cameron King might be another who hasn't returned??

It looked like (and I didn't scour the pics so I may be wrong) most of the blokes back at the moment were the new promotions and guys like Tep who finished the year injured. So maybe the blokes who played the end of the year have been given until the WC guys are back?

 

[El Diablo]

You didn't need to know his colour once you found out he was a dirty f**ken pig!

a good pig is a dead pig

 

[Noise]

It looked like (and I didn't scour the pics so I may be wrong) most of the blokes back at the moment were the new promotions and guys like Tep who finished the year injured. So maybe the blokes who played the end of the year have been given until the WC guys are back?

Possibly but French and kirosome are both back and IRC I think they both finished the year

 

[hindy111]

Even if they are back today (which I don't think they are) why do they get longer than others? Cameron King might be another who hasn't returned??

Perhaps asked for extra time. Norman had niggling injuries.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Scott, Norman, Edwards

One of the blokes with some sources inside the club said that Norman and Edwards (and plenty of others) were simply not due back yet. Dunno about Scott.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Hoffman / Gower / smith / Vave aren't back either

 

[Joshuatheeel]

It looked like (and I didn't scour the pics so I may be wrong) most of the blokes back at the moment were the new promotions and guys like Tep who finished the year injured. So maybe the blokes who played the end of the year have been given until the WC guys are back?

I don't think the non WC guys will be given that much time off. Most of the WC players won't be back until late Dec / early Jan as they get 6 or so weeks off. To late of a start for the guys not in the WC.

I reckon most will return in the next 2 weeks.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Possibly but French and kirosome are both back and IRC I think they both finished the year

French missed the last 4 or so games.