Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

Is this the end result of great coaching and great cap management?
Once these budget players realise their potential they become targets for higher offers. I guess a contract is a contract but when a player like Brown is on 180K and a badly out of form player like Hayne is offered 500K I wonder how well this sits.
Probably not an issue for those special clubs that can just organize another TPA to keep players happy.

The point is we don't need to release any player we want to keep. We can either make him stay for the amount he's on and potentially deal with him being unhappy, or we can offer an upgrade that'll make him happy (and ideally still less than the overs other clubs are unofficially offering). This is what happened with Radradra and he was great for us right to the very end.

As for Brown, he's off contract at the end of the year and rivals will already be making offers (officially too). In our favour is any cap space we have left for this year, which can be offered as an upgrade for 2018. Rivals can't start paying him until 2019. If Brown won't accept our offer of an extension he can stay on $180k (assuming it's true) for the rest of the year and take the big money next year. Or he can take our (hypothetical) offered upgrade for 2018 and a bigger contract for 2019 and beyond.

But personally I think Brown is a bit overrated here. Eighty minutes is great, but he's no David Klemmer. He won't be receiving elite offers from anywhere. I doubt his best offer would be much more than $400k. We should be able to get close to that pretty easily.

That said, I'm sure we have a core of key players we're happy to pay overs for (to a point). Maybe Brown is one of them?

 

[IFR33K]

I assume a few of our players would be fielding unofficial offers from rival clubs. I'm sure we are doing the same to recruitment targets contracted elsewhere. It's how we got Moses and Hayne.

I suspect Hayne approached us first, before we offered anything. Not having a dig, but he’s shown f**k all form to warrant BA chase him IMO.

 

[IFR33K]

Bevans a very good prospect. I doubt he will leave. But i wouldn't throw 600k this soon at him.

If he continues to develop by the end 2018 as a fullback he could very easily command $600k.

 

[Gazzamatta]

I suspect Hayne approached us first, before we offered anything. Not having a dig, but he’s shown f**k all form to warrant BA chase him IMO.

500K for a player with no form has to be a risk particularly when his best position is well covered.
Im really hoping he initially slips into Semis wing spot. Was Semi on 500K I wonder?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I suspect Hayne approached us first, before we offered anything. Not having a dig, but he’s shown f**k all form to warrant BA chase him IMO.

It doesn't matter who made the approach. We made an offer while he was contracted elsewhere.

 

[Gazzamatta]

It doesn't matter who made the approach. We made an offer while he was contracted elsewhere.

Is that legal within NRL rules?

 

[IFR33K]

500K for a player with no form has to be a risk particularly when his best position is well covered.
Im really hoping he initially slips into Semis wing spot. Was Semi on 500K I wonder?

Who knows why his form slipped so quickly. Maybe he was never wanted by Henry at the GC, and he just failed to fire.

All this talk of risk is ludicrous IMO. We’ve paid 500k for 1 year. What are we possibly risking? Hayne has obviously puts his eggs in one basket, sacrificing 700k to sign with us. Surely he’s risking more. I’m sure if 2018 pays off he’ll receive one last contract.

 

[IFR33K]

It doesn't matter who made the approach. We made an offer while he was contracted elsewhere.

Maybe the coast had already given him permission to talk to rival clubs.

 

[hindy111]

What do you guys think a Taka or Hurrell is costing? Id say between 300-400k.....
I am suprised people thjnk Hayne cant play good football again. A risk? Its a 1yr deal. Would ypu prefer Hayne in squad or 500k spare in cap? Id say he prob take Hoffman spot who would be costing around 300k......

Brown stats are great cause he plays lots of mins. Scott will retire end of year and there you go he can take his wage. Brown may not be a Klemmer. But man he brings energy. Lacks the power and size to ever become elite but he is as close as you will get. Anyhows we dont need to pay him overs. Let the stupid clubs do that.

 

[hindy111]

If he continues to develop by the end 2018 as a fullback he could very easily command $600k.

Sure..... And then we can offer him the same. Why pay on maybe. He will never demand 800k+ Too small.
Plus we have Gutherson and Hayne.

I like players like Bevan, exciting. But I prefer big players and tougher ones. Id rather all our backs be closer to 100kgs mark. Min 95kgs.

 

[IFR33K]

Sure..... And then we can offer him the same. Why pay on maybe. He will never demand 800k+ Too small.
Plus we have Gutherson and Hayne.

I like players like Bevan, exciting. But I prefer big players and tougher ones. Id rather all our backs be closer to 100kgs mark. Min 95kgs.

I’m sure the same has been said about players like Slater. The kids still learning and if he’s good enough at 85-90kg, then he’ll get paid accordingly, to his ability not his weight.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Is that legal within NRL rules?

To be fair, it was in both cases because they had less than a year to run on their existing contracts. In the case of Bevan French, he's not off contract (i.e. having less than a year to run on his contract) until the end of this year.

But I'm sure there is plenty of unofficial contact between clubs and player agents even with longer than a year to run, just as there is incitement to break contracts early (e.g. Moses and Hayne).

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What do you guys think a Taka or Hurrell is costing? Id say between 300-400k.....

Based on whom they play for I'd say Takairangi is on $300k at most but Hurrell could be on $500k. Hurrell is worth slightly more because he is better in attack. Both players are weak links in defence (at least at centre).

I am suprised people thjnk Hayne cant play good football again. A risk? Its a 1yr deal. Would ypu prefer Hayne in squad or 500k spare in cap? Id say he prob take Hoffman spot who would be costing around 300k......

Hayne is worth at least $700k, even based on this year's form. At his best he's worth about $1M.

Brown stats are great cause he plays lots of mins. Scott will retire end of year and there you go he can take his wage. Brown may not be a Klemmer. But man he brings energy. Lacks the power and size to ever become elite but he is as close as you will get. Anyhows we dont need to pay him overs. Let the stupid clubs do that.

Brown is probably worth whatever we're paying Scott. Will another club offer more? I doubt it, but it's possible. Especially if he hasn't re-signed by the time the comp starts and our early form (and thus his own form) is very good. There's a chance we'll lose him, and thus a chance our fans wig the f**k out.

No player is bigger than our club. Arthur has proven that more than once.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Based on whom they play for I'd say Takairangi is on $300k at most but Hurrell could be on $500k. Hurrell is worth slightly more because he is better in attack. Both players are weak links in defence (at least at centre).

Hayne is worth at least $700k, even based on this year's form. At his best he's worth about $1M.

Brown is probably worth whatever we're paying Scott. Will another club offer more? I doubt it, but it's possible. Especially if he hasn't re-signed by the time the comp starts and our early form (and thus his own form) is very good. There's a chance we'll lose him, and thus a chance our fans wig the f**k out.

No player is bigger than our club. Arthur has proven that more than once.

Or Coach?
Im sure BA would have liked to keep Burt but money and greater opportunity played their part. I wonder in days gone by if our club would have promoted Burt into the assistant role. Possibly a further indication of how far our club has progressed. Even though Burt is a favourite son, he wasnt kept just because.

 

[Snoochies]

Worst case scenario is Wenty pick up a great player.

 

[Happy MEel]

Based on whom they play for I'd say Takairangi is on $300k at most but Hurrell could be on $500k. Hurrell is worth slightly more because he is better in attack. Both players are weak links in defence (at least at centre).

Hayne is worth at least $700k, even based on this year's form. At his best he's worth about $1M.

Brown is probably worth whatever we're paying Scott. Will another club offer more? I doubt it, but it's possible. Especially if he hasn't re-signed by the time the comp starts and our early form (and thus his own form) is very good. There's a chance we'll lose him, and thus a chance our fans wig the f**k out.

No player is bigger than our club. Arthur has proven that more than once.

Hard to argue with any of that.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Give it a go anyway. Pou would.

 

[butch82]

Any one have any info on this info bout B.A & Norman?

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Any one have any info on this info bout B.A & Norman?

A bout between Norman and BA? My money's on BA. Sort that merkin out, BA!!

 

[El Diablo]

Any one have any info on this info bout B.A & Norman?

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...k=b0cd68b1c8fa30833ae640bb6a2deaf3-1512212761

TENSIONS AT THE EELS

WE keep hearing there is a clash at Parramatta Eels between coach Brad Arthur and star playmaker Corey Norman. It’s all being kept hush hush at the moment but we’ll be keeping an eye on developments.

There are other clubs still looking for a quality playmaker including Manly Sea Eagles and Cronulla Sharks who both missed out on Mitchell Pearce. Arthur obviously rates Norman highly as a player but there is a personality clash that is creating the drama.