Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

Three Origin games doesn't make a middle forward worth half a million dollars FFS! Plus he signed his current contract before he ever played Origin. He would be on $350k tops, but I suspect $300k or less under the cap.

 

[hindy111]

Three Origin games doesn't make a middle forward worth half a million dollars FFS! Plus he signed his current contract before he ever played Origin. He would be on $350k tops, but I suspect $300k or less under the cap.

Potential does.
My guess is a guy like Terepo or Matagi is on 200k. There seen as back up or benchies. Unsure youd get a starting prop who played origin for under 350k to 400k.
I wouldnt if baulked at 500k 12mths ago for Nappa.

 

[IFR33K]

I saw Maloney on a show a few weeks agao and he basically said, Uncle Nick made good on his promise the take em all to Las Vegas as a reward for winning a GF ... no one batted an eyelid .... if Politis has given them some extra monetary based reward then isnt that dodgy as f**k?

Uncle nick always gives out handouts.

The roosters team and uncle nick always play a round of golf together, where uncle nick deliberately losses $30000 shots to the players. They’re always making bets against each other, but uncle nick never wins.

 

[hineyrulz]

Napa would be on 500k

Thats what the Broncos offered him, so he is probably on more.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Potential does.
My guess is a guy like Terepo or Matagi is on 200k. There seen as back up or benchies. Unsure youd get a starting prop who played origin for under 350k to 400k.
I wouldnt if baulked at 500k 12mths ago for Nappa.

That's because you're fooled by media hype after a couple of big hits. I dare say you think the recent hype over a couple of Tevita Pangai Jr highlights means he is worth $500k as well. Most clubs are smarter than that. Hopefully we are too. The Roosters and Broncos certainly are.

 

[hindy111]

Uncle nick always gives out handouts.

The roosters team and uncle nick always play a round of golf together, where uncle nick deliberately losses $30000 shots to the players. They’re always making bets against each other, but uncle nick never wins.

Well i heard his last bet was I bet it hits 40 degrees tomorrow and that was in the middle of winter. Cost him 50k.
This story could be fabricated

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Uncle nick always gives out handouts.

The roosters team and uncle nick always play a round of golf together, where uncle nick deliberately losses $30000 shots to the players. They’re always making bets against each other, but uncle nick never wins.

Because he is a looser

 

[hindy111]

That's because you're fooled by media hype after a couple of big hits. I dare say you think the recent hype over a couple of Tevita Pangai Jr highlights means he is worth $500k as well. Most clubs are smarter than that. Hopefully we are too. The Roosters certainly are.

You are the forgetfull one who said Evans would of cpst 350k-400k.....A benchy and not a certain top 17 nrl player.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You are the forgetfull one who said Evans would of cpst 350k-400k.....A benchy and not a certain top 17 nrl player.

Absolutely a top 17 player, and we would've had to pay overs to lure him away from the Chooks. He was top 17 for them right up until he took the big money from us, and it probably backfired for them in the finals when they left him out of the week three team.

 

[Gazzamatta]

I'd say it's very expensive.

Absolutely. No argument there. Given their success when the "full job" is done, I'm surprised those clubs that have been caught dont demand the process continues. Lets face it. Everyone is doing it and Im sure the NRL know it. They must be totally pissed off when a whistle blower opens his big mouth.
Additionally let the punishment fit the crime. The cash penalty if caught should be double the investigation cost.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Coz it's a very different job trying to find something when a) you don't know specifically what you are looking for, or b) you are unable to access the documentation that might show you where to look (or what happened).
If somebody opens their mouth and says 'Sponsor X is paying player Y through mechanism Z' you at least know what information / documents to attempt to obtain.

It's easy enough to audit what is actually disclosed. It is much more difficult to audit what is not disclosed and what may not directly involved the club. Let's say Sponsor X does pay player Y in cash at a golf day, Or Non-sponsor (but 'friend') J pays player Y by paying them to do Z. Even if the auditor somehow got wind of this behaviour, he can't compel the player and 'friend' to play ball. If they say 'no such event / payment occurred', it is not easy for the auditor to establish that it did.

I take your point but the thoroughness stated upon a decision refers to 800000 to 1million documents.
Seek and ye shall find.
If a jobs worth doing etc.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I take your point but the thoroughness stated upon a decision refers to 800000 to 1million documents.
Seek and ye shall find.
If a jobs worth doing etc.

You could through 2 million docs at the club, and if the club has any brains there will be nothing to find (i.e. the club won't record any of it).

So what are you suggesting, that the NRL salary cap auditor demand to see every source document underpinning every transaction at all clubs?

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Easy. Make player salaries public along with tpas.

Sure. Just gotta get Players Association to agree.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Are you saying there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns?

Well, that's certainly part of the challenge.

 

[Gazzamatta]

You could through 2 million docs at the club, and if the club has any brains there will be nothing to find (i.e. the club won't record any of it).

So what are you suggesting, that the NRL salary cap auditor demand to see every source document underpinning every transaction at all clubs?

Transparency is what everyone wants. At worse it keeps the bastards honest not knowing who might be next.
Giving up is whats happening now and that clearly isnt working.
If you keep doing thee same thing you will get the same result. No process is perfect but the current one dosent work and whats more offers little deterrent.

 

[Incorrect]

Did anyone else hear BA being interviewed by ABC radio this afternoon? Said that he feels like he maybe gave the boys too much leeway to be doing their own thing lately and that he feels like the group need to rode harder by him and they respond better to being treated with more of an iron fist... I found it an odd summation but let's see what they produce tomorrow and see if he's on to something ...

 

[hineyrulz]

Did anyone else hear BA being interviewed by ABC radio this afternoon? Said that he feels like he maybe gave the boys too much leeway to be doing their own thing lately and that he feels like the group need to rode harder by him and they respond better to being treated with more of an iron fist... I found it an odd summation but let's see what they produce tomorrow and see if he's on to something ...

Well after their excellent efforts the last 3 weeks they did deserve some leeway.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Transparency is what everyone wants. At worse it keeps the bastards honest not knowing who might be next.
Giving up is whats happening now and that clearly isnt working.
If you keep doing thee same thing you will get the same result. No process is perfect but the current one dosent work and whats more offers little deterrent.

I agree that we absolutely need to try something else. But going on a wild goose chase through club accounts won't help. it will certainly waste a lot of money though.

If they can't get the PA to come on board, they might be able to have a system where the NRL publish their assessment of player's minimum worth (not necessarily what the player gets paid).

Part of the problem is that the cap is substantially lower than what some clubs (including ours) are happy to pay.

 

[Incorrect]

Well after their excellent efforts the last 3 weeks they did deserve some leeway.

Fair call. What they produce tomorrow will be very interesting ..

 

[Eelogical]

Did anyone else hear BA being interviewed by ABC radio this afternoon? Said that he feels like he maybe gave the boys too much leeway to be doing their own thing lately and that he feels like the group need to rode harder by him and they respond better to being treated with more of an iron fist... I found it an odd summation but let's see what they produce tomorrow and see if he's on to something ...

To be honest, I also find that odd. A great leader has the backing and respect of those under him. Few possess this gift, that's what makes them leaders. If he has that from his men then they are a force to be reckoned with. From what you're saying likens it to whipping a dead horse rather than regrouping for battle. But, I'm still so excited I am already in front of the TV waiting for Mondays game.