Rumours and Stuff

[hindy111]

I agree for the most part. But I don't control what people believe, and religion is the most effective brainwashing tool there is, so I can't always blame the poor dumb saps who get brainwashed for the beliefs that have been drilled into them.

I do believe that people in his position should be taught to just say f**king nothing about issues like this. Have your beliefs, but keep them to yourself. Don't be a dick.

What about school?

 

[hindy111]

There is a lot about religion that is good There are wonderful teachings about love and friendship, loving thy neighbour and all that. A lot of religious groups have done great things all around the world
I don't have a problem with religion per se, just those people who take everything so literally that they can see that they are hurting the world.
Sorry, but I just can't cop the homophobia and racism associated with certain religions, that's all.
I want the mindset to change, and I do believe it is....slowly. It will probably never be eradicated, certainly not in my lifetime, but I just can't sit back and let people air their bigoted thoughts without saying something.

I have nothing against gay men or women. But i will be honest, when I see two men nibbling on each others ears and kissing I just have too look away. It makes me feel a bit off.

 

[Dibs]

I have nothing against gay men or women. But i will be honest, when I see two men nibbling on each others ears and kissing I just have too look away. It makes me feel a bit off.

Well that’s your issue no theirs

 

[hindy111]

That book was pretty ok with selling daughters into slavery.
Wondering what Izzy's views on that are.

Religion was a fear factor sure. Used to control people. It is possible we do need some type of control though. It would be nice if we all lived happy and peacfully but f**k if we are just animals then why is it wrong if you have something I want not to kill you for it?

 

[hindy111]

Well that’s your issue no theirs

So I am the only one who looks away?

 

[Incorrect]

It's about changing the mindset of people who believe this shit.

Why do you care so much about what some footy player thinks?

Just shake your head and move on. So many more important things to worry about than a rugby player saying homo's will burn in some imaginary place when they perish... Get angry about homelessness, or Australian livestock being transported inhumanely across the globe to satisfy the culinary tastes of another band of religious freaks... That's real shit, not a throwaway line on social media...

 

[Bazal]

Why do you care so much about what some footy player thinks?

Just shake your head and move on. So many more important things to worry about than a rugby player saying homo's will burn in some imaginary place when they perish... Get angry about homelessness, or Australian livestock being transported inhumanely across the globe to satisfy the culinary tastes of another band of religious freaks... That's real shit, not a throwaway line on social media...

Because, as a hero to many, his words have the potential to affect an awful lot of people??

 

[Dibs]

So I am the only one who looks away?

How the F*ck would I know, you’re the one perving at 2 blokes getting it on. It’s funny how you don’t get turned off when Gould is doing it to you

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It's about changing the mindset of people who believe this shit.

But it's none of your f**king business. Thinking you have a right to change them makes you exactly like them.

I don't care how long the bible has been about. We are now living in a modern world and we need to have modern beliefs. It wasn't too long ago that people believed that black people were inferior to whites.

People still believe it which is why we have a push for diversity laws. Because of the idea that some minority groups can't succeed without help.

Things change. It is people stuck in this mindset that are trying to drag us back into the dark ages.

They're not trying to drag anyone anywhere. You have your beliefs, they have theirs.

This is about people. Human beings that live among us who have done no wrong. Not a book from a couple thousand years ago.

Who decides right and wrong though? That book is a big part of why our secular laws are different to the secular laws in other parts of the world.

 

[hindy111]

Why do you care so much about what some footy player thinks?

Just shake your head and move on. So many more important things to worry about than a rugby player saying homo's will burn in some imaginary place when they perish... Get angry about homelessness, or Australian livestock being transported inhumanely across the globe to satisfy the culinary tastes of another band of religious freaks... That's real shit, not a throwaway line on social media...

Or mentaly ill people been thrown on streets.

 

[hindy111]

But it's none of your f**king business. Thinking you have a right to change them makes you exactly like them.

People still believe it which is why we have a push for diversity laws. Because of the idea that some minority groups can't succeed without help.

They're not trying to drag anyone anywhere. You have your beliefs, they have theirs.

Who decides right and wrong though? That book is a big part of why our secular laws are different to the secular laws in other parts of the world.

I love it when you talk sexy

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We used to burn people to death for witchcraft, too.

And before that we didn't. I'm sure we can agree that burning people to death is very different from saying they are doing wrong.

Times change. So should we.

We have changed. We came to grips with the idea that we can disagree with other people's choices and opinions without burning them to death or having them blacklisted from earning an income. The Yanks left that behind in the 50s.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Because, as a hero to many, his words have the potential to affect an awful lot of people??

People have the right to reject him as a hero if they disagree with his views just as they will get on the Falou bandwagon if they agree with him.

 

[Incorrect]

Because, as a hero to many, his words have the potential to affect an awful lot of people??

Well I guess if someone wants to have a footy player as their hero and who is above the age of knowing what's actually right and wrong in the world around them and not 7 years old with a parent or guardian to steer them on the straight and narrow then they've probably got bigger issues than worrying about whether homo's burn in hell because Izzy says so...

 

[Bazal]

People have the right to reject him as a hero if they disagree with his views just as they will get on the Falou bandwagon if they agree with him.

Yes but I didn't say that.

I said that, as a hero to many, his words have the potential to affect a large number of people.

 

[hindy111]

Yes but I didn't say that.

I said that, as a hero to many, his words have the potential to affect a large number of people.

Your like an Italian tank in world war 2....
1 gear in forward and 5 in reverse.

 

[Bazal]

Well I guess if someone wants to have a footy player as their hero and who is above the age of knowing what's actually right and wrong in the world around them and not 7 years old with a parent or guardian to steer them on the straight and narrow then they've probably got bigger issues than worrying about whether homo's burn in hell because Izzy says so...

Well firstly, I was also talking about the struggling gay kids who see their hero say that ABOUT THEM, not just the people who might follow in his footsteps. The influence of this kind of thing can go a lot of different ways.

How do you think homophobes are created? Or racists? Or PETA activists?

It's usually a series of influences, parents, media, heroes that shape a lot of what we think and how we act. Folau's words alone won't make a homophobe, but they could contribute to an idea that becomes homophobia with other influences. Little Billy McRuggerFan thinks that these gays must be bad if Izzy Bloody Folau thinks they go to Hell, and that helps make little Billy more receptive to homophobic ideas.

 

[Bazal]

Your like an Italian tank in world war 2....
1 gear in forward and 5 in reverse.

You haven't even got an IQ as high as the highest two digit number 2,1 and 5 can form so perhaps you should just watch this one from the sidelines...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes but I didn't say that.

I said that, as a hero to many, his words have the potential to affect a large number of people.

That’s his and their right.

We don’t have the right to say that all the ideas that are in fashion now are the only correct ones, and any contrary ideas from the past or future should be kept hidden.

 

[hindy111]

You haven't even got an IQ as high as the highest two digit number 2,1 and 5 can form so perhaps you should just watch this one from the sidelines...

Im smart enough to know shift workers dont live aslong so work during the day.