Rumours and Stuff

[hindy111]

Immigrants bring an influx of culture, skills and ideas. Didn't you say your folks came out on a boat ffs??

World travel brings knowledge. And if you want to talk about viruses, you better have done more than primary school science.

I never said it was a bad thing just with one comes another. More immigrants means slower wage growth cause they happy to work for less, more people means more demand for houses so you pay more. Less money for you means lower quality of life. I always hear people saying let in immigrants blah nlah then cry about house prices or low incomes.
I live like a jail house rat. It effect me nil.

 

[hindy111]

Who on Earth said you were?

Jesus

 

[hindy111]

Travel = The spread of diseases much faster

 

[T.S Quint]

Things have already changed. We learnt to tolerate different ideas a long time ago, back when most of the Western world was religious. Intolerance of ideas is now making a rapid comeback and it leads to dark places.

Mine is an intolerance of people who are intolerant.
Which surprisingly, I think is ok.

 

[T.S Quint]

typical attitude of a SJW

you're just as bad as Folau

You don't think social justice is a good thing?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Your mistake is assuming that detrimental ideas need to be tolerated....

All ideas are detrimental to someone.

 

[Bazal]

All ideas are detrimental to someone.

Some are detrimental to society as a whole.

Should they be tolerated?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I know I'm not going to change his/their thinking. That's not going to happen. What can happen is a change in the next generation, but that will only happen if we call out people like Izzy.

Don't assume you're going to get just the change you're hoping for.

Who decides right and wrong? That's a good question. Of course those with the beliefs that tie in with bigotry would believe they are right. A great many of our current laws have probably originated from religion I'm sure (is the 5th commandment the first instance of a law against killing?), so religion has played a part in deciding what is right or wrong.
In these more modern times where we are moving even further away from leaning on the bible for our laws and lessons in life, we look to a moral compass. I guess the majority who have the same moral compass get to write the laws.

And what happens when those laws criminalise dissent? It has happened in the past.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He can earn an income.
Just maybe not one that relies on sponsorship and fan dollars to keep in business.

Why should that be the only job denied to him? Why not pressure any other employers to sack him as well? Why not chase him through the rest of his life threatening action against anyone who dares to employ him?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

If you can point out where I said that, I would grateful.

You can't, though. That's the problem with inferring things that were never said.

Homophobia is bigotry. Not because I "disagree" or whatever ludicrous horseshit you want to spin. Because that's what bigotry is. Racism is also bigotry. It has absolutely nothing to do with what I agree with.

I think you'll find 'bigotry' is a lot broader than that. There has never been a slipperier slope:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bigotry

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/bigotry

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bigotry

'Bigotry' is up there with 'evil', 'immorality' and 'wickedness'.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Mine is an intolerance of people who are intolerant.
Which surprisingly, I think is ok.

So it's fine for people not to tolerate you?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Some are detrimental to society as a whole.

Should they be tolerated?

Ideas can only change society, not destroy it. Is change detrimental?

 

[Gronk]

Watch the video. I bet BA never spoke to him.

 

[T.S Quint]

Don't assume you're going to get just the change you're hoping for.

And what happens when those laws criminalise dissent? It has happened in the past.

But we're not in the past.
Is that where you see this going? Criminalising dissent? Changing the views of bigots has been happening over centuries, and we are on the right path I believe. The world has become more tolerant than they were in the past. I just wish it would speed up.

 

[T.S Quint]

Why should that be the only job denied to him? Why not pressure any other employers to sack him as well? Why not chase him through the rest of his life threatening action against anyone who dares to employ him?

Threaten what action? I'm not threatening anything. I just believe that the ARU has a right to sack him if they choose to, because they are a business that is dependent on sponsor and fan money to survive.
If he went to drive a forklift in a warehouse somewhere I doubt it would hurt their bottom line.

I would sack him if I was the ARU. I would want to send a message that I don't view beliefs such as his as tolerable. I wouldn't however, deny him from going to work for someone else.

 

[T.S Quint]

So it's fine for people not to tolerate you?

No.
Everyone must love and respect me.

 

[amitropo]

Threaten what action? I'm not threatening anything. I just believe that the ARU has a right to sack him if they choose to, because they are a business that is dependent on sponsor and fan money to survive.
If he went to drive a forklift in a warehouse somewhere I doubt it would hurt their bottom line.

I would sack him if I was the ARU. I would want to send a message that I don't view beliefs such as his as tolerable. I wouldn't however, deny him from going to work for someone else.

Folau puts bums on seats, he is not the only reason RU is surviving but a part of it.
If he does leave or get sacked, and others follow or the sport begins to decline, do you think Qantas will not pull their funding anyway?

 

[T.S Quint]

Folau puts bums on seats, he is not the only reason RU is surviving but a part of it.
If he does leave or get sacked, and others follow or the sport begins to decline, do you think Qantas will not pull their funding anyway?

Who knows.
I don't think they will pull their funding. I don't think the ARU will sack him. I'm just stating what I would do.

 

[El Diablo]

The world has become more tolerant than they were in the past.

the opposite is happening

you crazy left wing nutters are trying to censor opposing views and at the same time enforce your views on everyone else

you're like some f**ked up cult

 

[T.S Quint]

the opposite is happening

you crazy left wing nutters are trying to censor opposing views and at the same time enforce your views on everyone else

you're like some f**ked up cult

I don't want to censor anything.
I want all you far-right dickwads to proclaim your views loud and proud so we can weed you out and call you on on your shit.