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hindy111

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I think the more pertinent question is:

Given his role for our team, does he really need to be?

Better? Yes. Maybe an offload. I remember once Cayless was cooked he would turn his back on defense and offload, manahed to stay an effective nrl played for extra few season
 

hindy111

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I think all the letters fell of his keyboard and all he can do is click

There is a chance he was pulling his penis and exploded on the keyboard which disabled 85% of vowels and 15% of the letters.
Sounds like one stat for this


100% Wanker
 

lingard

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And yet when our pack goes well was near MOM
Probably the forward pack they're playing behind. Cook has usually played behind big forward packs, whereas Kaysa hasn't. Kaysa's best game was last weekend when we dominated manlys pack.

Trouble is our pack only dominates every now and then; because we don't have enough size or quality. You can't have an average hooker AND an average pack. Name me one other genuine premiership contender who doesn't have at least one (probably two) current origin level players in their forward pack. (And obviously by that I mean players at a level of quality to be in contention for origin selection - not necessarily origin players literally.)
 

hindy111

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He doesn't make ours either but what does it matter? Unless you think he's on a million dollars then the level of criticism he's received here is way over the top. He's also not going to do anything to get your club in strife.

You rate him. Good so do many others. I dont. We need some forwards with pop and we have barely any.
 

hindy111

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I rate him? You say that as if there's only two types of players, ones you rate and ones you don't, and they're all the same price. I think he's an NRL player still and I'd have him at the eels at the right price.

Look Mannah IF he got a few offloads away could be part of my team for a few more seasons. He is far to one dimensional.
People knock Terepo but he is quite a good player. His hands have let him down once this season but been good. Few of his offloads and runs have created space and tries.
 

lingard

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You rate him. Good so do many others. I dont. We need some forwards with pop and we have barely any.

We need some forwards with 'pop' alright. If we had a couple of real quality forwards, Mannah (and most of our other forwards) would be fine. Each of our forwards individually is okay; but as a pack, without a couple of stars, they are very ordinary.
Oh! Does that make me a whinger?
 

lingard

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Alvaro, Brown, Ma'u, Evans, and Terepo all played in the World Cup.

We do need more high quality forwards - but I fail to see the correlation that a need for better forwards means that Mannah is no good, or that he needs to be better.

Mannah has two jobs:

(1) run for plenty of metres; and

(2) be strong in defense.

I'd say he does both things quite well.

I fail to see why the arbitrary measure of "he's not rep quality" means he is suddenly over the hill.

Mannah's metres-per-run is up there with the best of them; the only difference is that he doesn't look flash when he plays, like Fifita.

Through all our poor form, and over the poor years we have had, nobody could - or should, even - ever say that Mannah was the issue, or that he didn't give 100%.

The reality is that every club needs players like Mannah.

Our problem isn't Mannah - it's that the players we have to complement him are similar in style.

But that's why we signed Evans and Paulo.

Firstly, you're talking to the wrong person, because I have never said (nor do I think) that Mannah is no good or needs to be better. I actually think what he brings to the team would be great if we had a couple of real quality forwards around him. And be honest, despite their selections in various teams in the World Cup, how many of those players you named would even be mentioned as State of Origin contenders?
 
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Look Mannah IF he got a few offloads away could be part of my team for a few more seasons. He is far to one dimensional.
People knock Terepo but he is quite a good player. His hands have let him down once this season but been good. Few of his offloads and runs have created space and tries.
Terepo is alright but he's a bit small. And had bad hands his entire career. He runs fast before the line but rarely makes a dent. He's alright though, at the right price.
 

hineyrulz

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We need some forwards with 'pop' alright. If we had a couple of real quality forwards, Mannah (and most of our other forwards) would be fine. Each of our forwards individually is okay; but as a pack, without a couple of stars, they are very ordinary.
Oh! Does that make me a whinger?
No it makes you correct.
 

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