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Bazal

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The Ram said:
All in all, which one of these wonder kids has knocked down the door, to even get a start in a team that desperately needed a fresh spark, especially in the forwards, with an 0-6 start to the season?

Ok, which player currently OUTSIDE an NRL top 30 would you give our last spot to? Players can be from any club, since we're comparing others' glowing, perfect juniors with our own....
 

emjaycee

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Ok, which player currently OUTSIDE an NRL top 30 would you give our last spot to? Players can be from any club, since we're comparing others' glowing, perfect juniors with our own....
I could easily give you a list of 20 players to give our last spot to, however i don't actually watch the juniors or other clubs non-NRL games. I just know ours are shit.
 

TheRam

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You know they've changed the contract/salary cap rules, right?


So what? If they were good enough, they would of made the 30 cut and been eligible to play NRL. The ones that did, the coach obviously, doesn't rate at this stage to be ready or good enough. Just like the past few seasons.

Our juniors, the ones we keep at least, suck overall. Shit identification. Period!

No excuses.
 

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So what? If they were good enough, they would of made the 30 cut and been eligible to play NRL. The ones that did, the coach obviously, doesn't rate at this stage to be ready or good enough. Just like the past few seasons.

Our juniors, the ones we keep at least, suck overall. Shit identification. Period!

No excuses.
Yeah but you're question read like none of them were good enough in that 6 week period to warrant elevation to the 1st grade starting side, in which case why potentially f**k up your squad for the remainder of the season on a young player already contracted to the club, especially since that could also put the player's development backwards.
If you're rant was more aimed at them not being good enough for a top 30 spot (or in the case of the new rules, top 28 and then later top 29), well f**king DERRR!! That's why they have development contracts and not full contracts. Now your post here seems to indicate that if they aren't good enough to play 1st grade, they shouldn't even have development contracts, and if they are on development contracts, they are obviously not good enough for 1st grade....
 

Bazal

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Yeah but you're question read like none of them were good enough in that 6 week period to warrant elevation to the 1st grade starting side, in which case why potentially f**k up your squad for the remainder of the season on a young player already contracted to the club, especially since that could also put the player's development backwards.
If you're rant was more aimed at them not being good enough for a top 30 spot (or in the case of the new rules, top 28 and then later top 29), well f**king DERRR!! That's why they have development contracts and not full contracts. Now your post here seems to indicate that if they aren't good enough to play 1st grade, they shouldn't even have development contracts, and if they are on development contracts, they are obviously not good enough for 1st grade....

It's a classic tactic used by quite a few posters here. Act like you have all the answers, whinge an moan about the state of the club, but never answer a direct question with a relevant answer. Just whinge and obfuscate until the rational posters give up.

And then roll in the adulation of muppets who feel the same way but also have zero answers to offer.

Ram is a poor mans version of some of the naysayers of the old days.
 

TheRam

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Yeah but you're question read like none of them were good enough in that 6 week period to warrant elevation to the 1st grade starting side, in which case why potentially f**k up your squad for the remainder of the season on a young player already contracted to the club, especially since that could also put the player's development backwards.
If you're rant was more aimed at them not being good enough for a top 30 spot (or in the case of the new rules, top 28 and then later top 29), well f**king DERRR!! That's why they have development contracts and not full contracts. Now your post here seems to indicate that if they aren't good enough to play 1st grade, they shouldn't even have development contracts, and if they are on development contracts, they are obviously not good enough for 1st grade....

Jeez you guys make things complicated. Or is this purposeful?

Simply put. Who are our 1st grade juniors playing now that were graded in the last 3 years? Three years is a long time for a club like Parra, that spends millions and has the 2nd largest nursery in the league.

Pitiful really. I think Alvaro was the last one and I like him as a player and in fact predicted that he would be a good one(whitey of course, great work ethic) when he was in our juniors. But he is hardly someone to cream our undies over for all the time, money and effort we put into our juniors.

We are obviously doing something terribly wrong. If we keep this up, we may as well just chuck it in and just poach like the Roosters do. Can't do worse. At least they make semis and grand finals a lot more often then we do with zero juniors.

We are pathetic. Like I keep saying...no excuses!
 

Bazal

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Jeez you guys make things complicated. Or is this purposeful?

Simply put. Who are our 1st grade juniors playing now that were graded in the last 3 years? Three years is a long time for a club like Parra, that spends millions and has the 2nd largest nursery in the league.

Pitiful really. I think Alvaro was the last one and I like him as a player and in fact predicted that he would be a good one(whitey of course, great work ethic) when he was in our juniors. But he is hardly someone to cream our undies over for all the time, money and effort we put into our juniors.

We are obviously doing something terribly wrong. If we keep this up, we may as well just chuck it in and just poach like the Roosters do. Can't do worse. At least they make semis and grand finals a lot more often then we do with zero juniors.

We are pathetic. Like I keep saying...no excuses!

So we should offer four year deals to our SG Ball players, like the Dogs just did in the act of poaching one?

We don't make it complicated. You're just too simple to see how complicated it actually is. Although I'm not surprised, coming from the man who said the secret to signing the players you need is just to throw more money at them until they can't refuse
 

TheRam

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It's a classic tactic used by quite a few posters here. Act like you have all the answers, whinge an moan about the state of the club, but never answer a direct question with a relevant answer. Just whinge and obfuscate until the rational posters give up.

And then roll in the adulation of muppets who feel the same way but also have zero answers to offer.

Ram is a poor mans version of some of the naysayers of the old days.


As always you are just full of it. I have brought up many ideas and solutions to virtually all my whinging. Some brilliant and others not so. But to say that I don't have solutions is a total lie or you are just totally misinformed.

As for what players we should bring in, like I have stated honestly, I don't watch lower grades anymore. I have lost interest. But to suggest that there aren't quality players in the lower grades that just need a chance, is stupid and ridiculous.

The problem though, is our club is SHIT at identifying them before they go on to become quality 1st graders at other clubs. If I were to follow the lower grades I can guarantee you I would find a player or two that would be a standout performer. The Storm do this virtually every year.

Also just a question. Have we got a full time talent scout in Fiji? If not we have rocks in our head. We should be making Fiji our Pacific nursery.
 

TheRam

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So we should offer four year deals to our SG Ball players, like the Dogs just did in the act of poaching one?

We don't make it complicated. You're just too simple to see how complicated it actually is. Although I'm not surprised, coming from the man who said the secret to signing the players you need is just to throw more money at them until they can't refuse

ah ha...yeah...right then.
 

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