Rumours and Stuff

[Bazal]

I would of tried to move these guys on at end of 17.

Hoffman
Scott

With that approx 700k and Hayne 500k I would of looked elsewhere.
T rex played ok but always a big man who has been injured for the best part of 3yrs was a concern. The older you are the harder it is to recover. That is fact. BA already keen to sign T rex up again. Well it is a top 30 spot and I am not so sure.

For 2019 id look at what players I want in their positions.

Is Taka a centre?
Where does Hayne play?
Bevan?

Ok but that's not an answer.

Which goalkicker would you have signed?

 

[hindy111]

Fully fit id go with this

1 Gutherson
2 Hayne
3 Taka
4 Jennings
5 Gjennings
6 Norman
7 Moses
8 Tepai
9 Kaysa
10 Terepo
11 Manu
12 Gower
13 Brown

14 Alvaro
15Mannah
16 Kenny
17 Marata

 

[hindy111]

Ok but that's not an answer.

Which goalkicker would you have signed?

I feel like your missing the point. Do you feel confident with Moses kicking?
The squad should of been assembled with a goal kicker. We have

Gutherson,Moses,Norman.....None are more then 2nd string goal kickers.

 

[hindy111]

Hayne isn't ideally suited to any position. But wing (and centre and fullback) are his best. In our team he is most valuable on the wing.

Doggie?

 

[lingard]

Is it? Or are you just parroting Ram and his completely ignorant idea that there is no such thing as a genuine reason for failure?

Success is all about stability, in the end. We haven't had that for decades.

Take off the Eels fan hat for a moment and look at it objectively. Compare us to the Tigers, who had their board sacked and replaced in 2014. They've struggled and even this season, four years later, were forced to pay big overs for mediocre players despite everything looking up for them. 500k plus for Russell Packer, who is basically performing at a lower level than Daniel Alvaro, is insane IMO. The money they paid for Josh Reynolds is mental, and they gave Matulino (a reject coaches reject) big money too.

As a player, would you want to go to a club with a history of instability and drama if you had another choice? As a business owner, would you want to be throwing TPAs at a club with our history right now?

Like it or not, it is a huge consideration for our football side. Footy is a business these days, and we've been bad business for ages now.

Makes a lot of sense.

 

[Bazal]

I feel like your missing the point. Do you feel confident with Moses kicking?
The squad should of been assembled with a goal kicker. We have

Gutherson,Moses,Norman.....None are more then 2nd string goal kickers.

I'm not missing the point.

I'm saying that if we needed to address it, how would we have done that? You're suggesting BA refused to sign a goalkicker. I'm asking which one you would have signed, because I think you'll find that there wasn't really a better one available. That's all.

 

[84 Baby]

I'm not missing the point.

I'm saying that if we needed to address it, how would we have done that? You're suggesting BA refused to sign a goalkicker. I'm asking which one you would have signed, because I think you'll find that there wasn't really a better one available. That's all.

Bullshit! We could have offered a spot to El Masri

 

[lingard]

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Just for clarity, on the Jan 1st 2017, we had 18 players on our roster that were contracted into at least 2018. 3 of those were release mid-contract throughout the year. We had 2 mid-season signings in Moses and Davis so effectively we had 17 players for 2018 contracted. BA then went looking for a big bopper and signed Evans early, giving us 18.

BA then attempted to get a new hooker in Liccha who priced himself out of our reach, and so we extended Cameron King (19).

Over the next few months, 7 additional players who were off contract at the end of 2017 were extended:
- Auva'a, Gennings, Gower, Moeroa, Niukore, Terepo and Will Smith (not in any order). That gave us a squad of 26.

Hunting for a long-term half/utility found us Jaemon Salmon in early November (27) and then knowing we needed another big bopper, BA signed Williams in mid-November before announcing Hayne in early December (spots 28 and 29).

So, understanding that to release an under-contract player, someone needs to want to buy them, we started recruiting for 2018 with a pretty high number of middle forwards taking up our salary cap already. The only 2 that could have not been extended were Terepo and Gower and neither was re-signed until late in the year.

Auva'a, Gennings, Moeroa, Niukore and Smith were all extensions we needed to make and were deserved on the back of performances in either FG or ISP.

I don't think fans guessing whether BA was happy or not and making assumptions that he was happy tell the full the story.

Thanks for that. Very informative. I'd be interested to know what sort of money Licha was wanting.

 

[hindy111]

I'm not missing the point.

I'm saying that if we needed to address it, how would we have done that? You're suggesting BA refused to sign a goalkicker. I'm asking which one you would have signed, because I think you'll find that there wasn't really a better one available. That's all.

I dont follow footy as much as you. I watch maybe 1 or 2 games a week max.

 

[Bazal]

Bullshit! We could have offered a spot to El Masri

Actually that brings me to another point. Is there really anyone you'd sign just for thier goal kicking these days? There's no such thing as a token selection anymore, you can't just stick a bloke on the wing because he kicks tonnes of goals...and I'm not necessarily saying that was the case with El Masri, more where do we fit a new bloke who kicks goals?

 

[Bazal]

I dont follow footy as much as you. I watch maybe 1 or 2 games a week max.

I probably only average 3-4 games a week, tbh.

 

[hindy111]

Maybe 3

 

[Dibs]

What chance The Morris Brothers made an offer to join Parra? Both 32 in August.

None hopefully

 

[Gary Gutful]

Actually that brings me to another point. Is there really anyone you'd sign just for thier goal kicking these days? There's no such thing as a token selection anymore, you can't just stick a bloke on the wing because he kicks tonnes of goals...and I'm not necessarily saying that was the case with El Masri, more where do we fit a new bloke who kicks goals?

What do you mean? We put him in as goal kicker.

 

[lingard]

Hayne can ruck it out ok.

Anyhow, ok let’s assume BA as per your opinion should have replaced Semi, who would you have purchased to replace Semi?

No, no, no. That's not the issue. Radradra was irreplaceable. But it would have been good if the coach could have compensated in other areas (e.g; our forward pack) to make up for some of the things he did.

 

[hindy111]

Ive become a vegan. I may be more moody then normal.
Bare with me.

 

[84 Baby]

Actually that brings me to another point. Is there really anyone you'd sign just for thier goal kicking these days? There's no such thing as a token selection anymore, you can't just stick a bloke on the wing because he kicks tonnes of goals...and I'm not necessarily saying that was the case with El Masri, more where do we fit a new bloke who kicks goals?

The reports were wrong we’ve actually resigned Joseph Paulo as our goal kicking middle half

 

[84 Baby]

No, no, no. That's not the issue. Radradra was irreplaceable. But it would have been good if the coach could have compensated in other areas (e.g; our forward pack) to make up for some of the things he did.

He did. Evans and Hayne. Paulo next season. Granted neither have worked out well but why do people keep insisting that BAs failings are in not identifying problems?

 

[Noise]

He did. Evans and Hayne. Paulo next season. Granted neither have worked out well but why do people keep insisting that BAs failings are in not identifying problems?

Identifying problems is ok. Fixing problems is better. Kane Evans fixes nothing.

 

[Gary Gutful]

He did. Evans and Hayne. Paulo next season. Granted neither have worked out well but why do people keep insisting that BAs failings are in not identifying problems?

Interesting question and spot on.

It seems their issue is that they don’t think that BA solved the problem with his recruitment.

To suggest that BA wasn’t aware of the problem is a bit of a stretch.