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phantom eel

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Interestingly Gower started his first grade career over in England with Salford, before returning to footy in Australia.
 

Avenger

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I'm starting to suspect Avenger's assessment of Foran as unsuitable to captain our team was correct.
Respect.

Do you realise what you've just done Pou?
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Avengers a mate of me and I can tell you that he's been right on more occasions than people can poke a stick at.. I don't call him the 'iron gut' for nothing.
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I was lucky with Foran. Know nothing except what's in the media. Just suspected he was a little overrated with questionable mates that may lead him to the road of ruin.
 

hineyrulz

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Well apart from Robson (who turned 34 today and is retiring at season end) Mannha is the last remnant of the 2009 squad who got their arses handed to them in the GF - loser mentality?
Arse's handed to us??? We lost by 7 and it took a BS penalty to kill our momentum against a team 1.1m over the cap. Do you ever tire of fishing????
 

Chipmunk

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Well apart from Robson (who turned 34 today and is retiring at season end) Mannha is the last remnant of the 2009 squad who got their arses handed to them in the GF - loser mentality?

He's also the only reason we're entitled to the $300k long service allowance. He's essentially on back up money as a result.
 

Dibs

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Well apart from Robson (who turned 34 today and is retiring at season end) Mannha is the last remnant of the 2009 squad who got their arses handed to them in the GF - loser mentality?
That's funny I don't remember it that way. Plus there was 14 other teams who lost worse than us that year.
 
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Mannah may as well f**k off to England now as well, seeing Jarryd won't be accompanying him to church down here.

There is no point f**king Mannah off to anywhere given that he is the only player eligible for the Long Term Player discount. We'd save f**k all (perhaps nothing) on the cap.
 

Happy MEel

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The fact he was made captain over many other strong leaders proves his leadership.

No it doesn't. It proves BA thought he had stronger leadership than the others. However, BA can make mistakes which is my point.

By your own silly logic, the fact Foran was stripped of the captaincy proves his lack of leadership.

I dare say if BA had his time over again Foran wouldn't be captain.
 

Gronk

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No it doesn't. It proves BA thought he had stronger leadership than the others. However, BA can make mistakes which is my point.

By your own silly logic, the fact Foran was stripped of the captaincy proves his lack of leadership.

I dare say if BA had his time over again Foran wouldn't be captain.

Exactly right. The fact that he chose to go to Gosford Races with his dodgy mates instead of going to an Eels community gig shows he he the opposite of a leader and his condition lead him to continually make poor decisions.
 

Poupou Escobar

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No it doesn't. It proves BA thought he had stronger leadership than the others. However, BA can make mistakes which is my point.

There is an entire leadership group, and the choice of on field captain isn't about which one is the best leader. It is about influence with the referees and token representational duties (pressers and so on).

By your own silly logic, the fact Foran was stripped of the captaincy proves his lack of leadership.

No it just proves there's a better option as captain. If the player had no leadership he never would have been part of the leadership group to start with. Criminal associations and mental illness don't stop a person from being able to lead others. They just add unwanted risk to a player's contribution to a sporting organisation.

I dare say if BA had his time over again Foran wouldn't be captain.
I doubt he would have signed him at all. But not because of any lack of leadership.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Exactly right. The fact that he chose to go to Gosford Races with his dodgy mates instead of going to an Eels community gig shows he he the opposite of a leader and his condition lead him to continually make poor decisions.
The decisions he made weren't in the best interests of the club, but they were probably beneficial to the little group of scumbags he loved most. Just because his first loyalty wasn't to our club doesn't mean he is not a leader. It just means he shouldn't have been part of our team, especially representing us as captain.
 

Gronk

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The decisions he made weren't in the best interests of the club, but they were probably beneficial to the little group of scumbags he loved most. Just because his first loyalty wasn't to our club doesn't mean he is not a leader. It just means he shouldn't have been part of our team, especially representing us as captain.

Ok so he's a leader amount scumbags. I'll give you that. Even scumbags need a leader.
 

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