Rumours and Stuff

[Obscene Assassin]

600k for Beau this year? I thought he was signed for 400k ish?
A reference also to Normans huge back ended deal in another article?
Maybe our assumed tough negotiations arent what we thought they were.
Who negotiated these?
At this rate Moses will be on a million next year.
Jenko is probably on a "bomb" next year as well.
Lord knows what Kane Evans will be on in year 4. Fingers crossed hes not still playing in the 2s then.
Little wonder Junior came home.

Beau's contract was negotiated by the previous board. From memory Corey's was announced not long after Max came in so could've been negotiated by the previous administration

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I was opposed to the Scott signing at the time, because I thought he was at the injury prone side of his career and the contract was too long. When I was half right. He has been a 50/50 signing. Some good performances and some shit. Not the worst signing and now he is gone so who gives a shit.

He has declined since he got here, as the staff would have expected. He wasn't a player we needed but he definitely was the leader we needed. He's done his job. I suspect he wouldn't have come for only two years. It's the price you pay.

Jennings was a great signing, although on the higher side money wise and he is still good value. The thing with him and most backs is they tend to be crap until you get your forwards and halves right.

Agreed, Jennings has been one of our best ever since he got here. Merkins complaing he is past it haven't noticed that everyone's form is down.

Tepai is a shit attacking backrower and I have not seen anything to change my mind on that. He is a good solid defender though. But I suspect that we are paying him good offensive and defensive coin, because the coaching staff like most of you clowns thought that he was better then he has turned out to be.

His next contract should reflect, hopefully, his shortcomings in attack. Hayne was a gamble worth taking and the jury is still out on that.

He's a decent attacker and a very good defender. He's reliable, versatile and can play long minutes. And still young so he's not even at his peak.

Evens is not worth the $400k odd that has been quoted by the press. He was worth whatever the Roosters were willing to pay him, therefore they let him go. He's a solid player at best when fit. The problem with him, he is hard to keep fit whether injured or not and he is a stupid player.

The Roosters have a great pack, and could only offer Evans 25 minutes a game, so that's all they could pay him for. We can offer him 40+ minutes every week, and therefore more money.

 

[JohnStoppafarty]

Doing your ACL isn't career ending. Time is what got Beau.

Ssshhhhhhh

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Really...ah not always true and you know it

It doesn't need to always be true, it just needs to be generally true for my assessment to make more sense than yours. Better players cost more than worse ones. So replacing players with better ones should cost more. You don't need to know anyone's contract details to know that's true. But if you believe there's an exception to that rule at work here then you need to pony up with the details. Otherwise you're not making sense.

bullshit artist and I wouldn't be foolish enough to try a guess what our whole roster is worth individually like you were.

Oh I'm sure you would be foolish enough if it suited you. Why do you think we can replace our players with better players without it costing more? How much do you think the current players are on? How much do you think their replacements would cost? If you can't even have a guess why are you making such wild claims?

Only manipulators and crap artists try to do that to win an argument and then have their acolytes reinforce the crap assumptions.

Also like I said, we were reported as being under the cap this year to start with. So all your reasoning is out the window unless you also magically know that figure too you little magician.

So how much do you think we're under, and if it's a lot why didn't we spend it before the comp started when desirable players were off contract?

The bottom line is there are many ways to legally adjust a salary cap and you wouldn't be privy to any off them within the club.

And for those that reckon it would cost us $1m to get TPG to Parra, yeah maybe and therefore we shouldn't go through with it. But I can't see him being on more then around $400 at best at this very moment. Can anyone else? He was still earning his spurs in 1st grade when he last signed a contract. So therefore logic would suggest if you offered him around $700k that would be a very tempting offer to a young kid and his manager. Don't you? At the very least you are pushing the Broncos cap to breaking point and therefore maybe making other opportunities available.

Also there is Lodge, who again going by reports signed on for around $100k. Now I don't think he signed for that low amount, but maybe he signed for around $2-300k. Again if we offered around $500-600k, that could be a very tempting offer, to him and his manager at present, considering that he has massive bills to be paid.

Also there are others in the Broncos ranks that are young and on lower pay in the Broncos system that could be enticed with the right offer.

Like all you apologists out there like to say, they can't keep them all. All I want to see is for Parra to be smart enough and get just one or two of them. Time will tell.

How much Lodge/TPJ are on now is irrelevant. Their next contract will be driven by demand, and demand is probably very high at the moment.

And while I agree Lodge and TPJ would both improve our top 17, that isn't enough reason to sign them at any cost. We already have enough forwards contracted for next year (even though you don't rate them) and with our remaining cap space we need to address the bigger holes in the roster, being hooker and the outside backs.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

But we don’t pay overs anymore mate.

If we did we would sign a lot more stars.

 

[Stevie]

Shit dude. That's pretty bad

Turning sarcasm metre back down....

 

[84 Baby]

Turning sarcasm metre back down....

*sarcometer

 

[TheRam]

Hmmm...well Pou $600k for Scott. How do those rubbery figures of yours look now you gibbering hoax?

Like I said, who the F knows what these turkeys are on? Certainly not Pou-Loo.

 

[hineyrulz]

If we did we would sign a lot more stars.

Bring back Seaweed!!

 

[TheRam]

It doesn't need to always be true, it just needs to be generally true for my assessment to make more sense than yours. Better players cost more than worse ones. So replacing players with better ones should cost more. You don't need to know anyone's contract details to know that's true. But if you believe there's an exception to that rule at work here then you need to pony up with the details. Otherwise you're not making sense.

And then there is reality. $600k Beau Scott.
Yes you do need to know the contract details, again exhibit A. Beau Scott.
And again Beau Scott.

Oh I'm sure you would be foolish enough if it suited you. Why do you think we can replace our players with better players without it costing more? How much do you think the current players are on? How much do you think their replacements would cost? If you can't even have a guess why are you making such wild claims?

Again Freakin Beau Scott. Who the F knows for real...Beau F**king Scott. Bad timing for you aye Pou with the Beau Scott revelation coming out now. Not so good for your foolish pontificating and bull-crap figures.

So how much do you think we're under, and if it's a lot why didn't we spend it before the comp started when desirable players were off contract?

Again who the F knows, certainly not you. That's for sure.

How much Lodge/TPJ are on now is irrelevant. Their next contract will be driven by demand, and demand is probably very high at the moment.

So we should have a go, right? Or are we just not in the game by your pathetic negative logic?

And while I agree Lodge and TPJ would both improve our top 17, that isn't enough reason to sign them at any cost. We already have enough forwards contracted for next year (even though you don't rate them) and with our remaining cap space we need to address the bigger holes in the roster, being hooker and the outside backs.

Again just crapping on to suggest that I would sign anyone at any price. But yes I would rather sure up our forwards and halves before any other position in the team. Outside backs are much easier to come by then Lodge and TPJ quality forwards that are right now available. If you can't see that, then there's not much else left to say.

You know Pou, you're the type of person that would say in a couple of years time, something like, "we didn't really need to improve our forwards by much back in 2018. Our backs were the issue and trying to buy players like TPJ or Lodge is way to expensive now anyway. They just don't grow on trees you know."

But halves and forwards win you games, even if your backs are a little average, at least you won't be 2-9 and soon to be 2-12 and so on it will go. Also I think that we can probably produce more outside backs then top notch forwards for some reason. We seem to have failed at that dismally in the last decade.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Hmmm...well Pou $600k for Scott. How do those rubbery figures of yours look now you gibbering hoax?

Like I said, who the F knows what these turkeys are on? Certainly not Pou-Loo.

Or the media. But if Beau Scott is on $600k he would've been super cheap in those first couple of years. That's how back-ending works. That's how we built a premiership window, narrow as it was.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

And then there is reality. $600k Beau Scott.
Yes you do need to know the contract details, again exhibit A. Beau Scott.
And again Beau Scott.



Again Freakin Beau Scott. Who the F knows for real...Beau F**king Scott. Bad timing for you aye Pou with the Beau Scott revelation coming out now. Not so good for your foolish pontificating and bull-crap figures.



Again who the F knows, certainly not you. That's for sure.



So we should have a go, right? Or are we just not in the game by your pathetic negative logic?



Again just crapping on to suggest that I would sign anyone at any price. But yes I would rather sure up our forwards and halves before any other position in the team. Outside backs are much easier to come by then Lodge and TPJ quality forwards that are right now available. If you can't see that, then there's not much else left to say.

You know Pou, you're the type of person that would say in a couple of years time, something like, "we didn't really need to improve our forwards by much back in 2018. Our backs were the issue and trying to buy players like TPJ or Lodge is way to expensive now anyway. They just don't grow on trees you know."

But halves and forwards win you games, even if your backs are a little average, at least you won't be 2-9 and soon to be 2-12 and so on it will go. Also I think that we can probably produce more outside backs then top notch forwards for some reason. We seem to have failed at that dismally in the last decade.

So you believe Beau Scott is on $600k? If that's the case how much would Alvaro and Brown have cost to upgrade? How f**king much would Lodge or Pangai cost next year? It's all relative you silly merkin.

 

[Gronk]

Shit dude. That's pretty bad

Being HIV Negative usually means that you are bonking a person who is HIV Positive. But I don't think that @Stevie was really meaning that.

But then again, there was that Stripper from the Gold Coast ...

 

[Gazzamatta]

Or the media. But if Beau Scott is on $600k he would've been super cheap in those first couple of years. That's how back-ending works. That's how we built a premiership window, narrow as it was.

Narrow you say? It was that bloody narrow you could shave with it.

 

[TheRam]

Or the media. But if Beau Scott is on $600k he would've been super cheap in those first couple of years. That's how back-ending works. That's how we built a premiership window, narrow as it was.

Irrelevant to your rubbery figures argument in regards to our current roster

Yeah thanks for the heads up on how back-ending works, but I think we all know how it works, well except for Des Hasler and maybe the Greeks.

 

[TheRam]

So you believe Beau Scott is on $600k? If that's the case how much would Alvaro and Brown have cost to upgrade? How f**king much would Lodge or Pangai cost next year? It's all relative you silly merkin.

That's the $64 question, you presumptuous clown. None of us know what hidden bombs if any, but the disclosure of Scott's salary suggests we have some, so by not re-signing or moving some players on we could be making more then enough room to catch a few big fish.

The point is that we are in a very fortunate position at present, with so many player that can be moved on and some real quality brought in to replace them. Unlike you, I am always optimistic that we can do much better IF we have the right people in charge. I and others here, fear that we have goats in charge.

The results speak for themselves. Period.

 

[hineyrulz]

Narrow you say? It was that bloody narrow you could shave with it.

It wasn't a window, more like a Keyhole.

 

[TheRam]

So you believe Beau Scott is on $600k? If that's the case how much would Alvaro and Brown have cost to upgrade? How f**king much would Lodge or Pangai cost next year? It's all relative you silly merkin.

For starters Alvaro isn't in the same ball park as the players we are discussing and therefore noway had the the same demand, so you would think that and the fact that he was a junior coming through, would have kept his salary on the lower side. Under $400k. But who the f**k really knows what he is on the books for next season. As for Brown, we got him real cheap in the first place and then upgraded him while he was very content(by his own admission he didn't want to go anywhere else) and didn't go into the open market. So I would be surprised that he is at real market value, but then again, who the f**k really knows.

What I am suggesting is that we put on enough money pressure on the Broncos to make it very, very difficult for them to keep all their younger stars who most would agree at the moment are under valued if placed on the open market. Not that hard to understand really. But by your reckoning no one has any chance of having a top pack unless it is home grown.

We have a window here to make some great signings. The most important question for me at the moment is, are our football club custodians good enough to get it right? Doubtful, but I and many others in Eels supporter land really, really, really hope so for once.

 

[Wally21]

Plural! So Korisau & Richard Pratt's mistress & some blow

Api and blow maybe 84, but Richard Pratt’s mistress? At $800 an hour x 40 hour week x 52, she’s just become a Marquee signing!!!!!

 

[hineyrulz]

Api and blow maybe 84, but Richard Pratt’s mistress? At $800 an hour x 40 hour week x 52, she’s just become a Marquee signing!!!!!

Still too young for BA........